Why the Love for Kiffin?

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#51
I just accept that I am no analyst of football. Even when he was failing miserably, there were lots of people calling him a genius. I guess he must be one, when you look at where he is today. His upside-down career path was certanly odd (NFL -------- > FAU) but frankly that's the evidence that people thought he was truly great. No me, people. If your first HC job is NFL then somebody thinks you're good.
 
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Firebirdparts said:
I just accept that I am no analyst of football. Even when he was failing miserably, there were lots of people calling him a genius. I guess he must be one, when you look at where he is today. His upside-down career path was certanly odd (NFL -------- > FAU) but frankly that's the evidence that people thought he was truly great. No me, people. If your first HC job is NFL then somebody thinks you're good.
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While he didn’t warrant getting the Raiders job, is anyone really surprised Al Davis of all people hired a college co offensive coordinators to coach a dysfunctional franchise? No.
 
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Firebirdparts said:
I just accept that I am no analyst of football. Even when he was failing miserably, there were lots of people calling him a genius. I guess he must be one, when you look at where he is today. His upside-down career path was certanly odd (NFL -------- > FAU) but frankly that's the evidence that people thought he was truly great. No me, people. If your first HC job is NFL then somebody thinks you're good.
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Or your daddy has a lot of pull.
 
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He’s lost at least 3 games all but 1 year at Ole Miss. Tubberville, Cutcliffe, Nutt usually lost 4. 3-4 losses was about their standard. He’s a bit better than those 3 but not much. About a game a year improvement. Ole Miss has history. 6 SEC championships. 3 national titles. They are an upper mid tier SEC team. If he lost 3 games at Tennessee every year he’d be fired. Fulmer usually lost 3 and he’s talked about like trash around here. Kiffin is somewhere between Fulmer and Tubberville. He markets himself well. We all fell for his bs 15 years ago. Now some impressionable, naive are buying what it again.
 
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ochocinco said:
He’s lost at least 3 games all but 1 year at Ole Miss. Tubberville, Cutcliffe, Nutt usually lost 4. 3-4 losses was about their standard. He’s a bit better than those 3 but not much. About a game a year improvement. Ole Miss has history. 6 SEC championships. 3 national titles. They are an upper mid tier SEC team. If he lost 3 games at Tennessee every year he’d be fired. Fulmer usually lost 3 and he’s talked about like trash around here. Kiffin is somewhere between Fulmer and Tubberville. He markets himself well. We all fell for his bs 15 years ago. Now some impressionable, naive are buying what it again.
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That’s one of the more absurd things said in this thread.

In 48 years (1971-2019), Ole Miss had 3 10 win seasons.

Kiffin has the same amount in 3 of his 5 seasons there and is on pace to do it again making it 4 10 win seasons in 6 years.

But sure, he’s just on the same level as Freeze, Cutcliffe, Nutt, Tubberville.

Kiffin is winning at levels almost annually that Ole Miss averaged doing once very 14-16 seasons.
 
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2 of those 10 win seasons happened during the 15 years prior to his arrival. Before 2006 teams only played 11 games. One less game ya see. He’s a step above their norm I agree but he’s not some genius,elite coach. He’s way overrated. We can just disagree.
 
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ochocinco said:
2 of those 10 win seasons happened during the 15 years prior to his arrival. Before 2006 teams only played 11 games. One less game ya see. He’s a step above their norm I agree but he’s not some genius,elite coach. He’s way overrated. We can just disagree.
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A coaching winning at a near 50% higher clip than the historical average is not “a step above the norm”

Program is like 52% all time win percentage and he’s winning at 73% rate. That’s not “above average” regardless of what coach or program you’re looking at.
 
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He has the 16th best win percentage of current coaches right behind Mike Gundy and James Franklin and just ahead of Billy Napier guess those aren’t active anymore tho for some reason. He’s a step above their norm for but not elite no matter what the fanboys say.
 
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ochocinco said:
He has the 16th best win percentage of current coaches right behind Mike Gundy and James Franklin and just ahead of Billy Napier guess those aren’t active anymore tho for some reason. He’s a step above their norm for but not elite no matter what the fanboys say.
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So you said that Lane was "a step" above previous Ole Miss coaches. When called out and proven with data how dumb that assertion was, you now pivot to coaches who have never coached at Ole Miss before to somehow make your argument?
 
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Yup. He’s about the quality coach you’d expect at an upper mid tier SEC school in the current state of college football. Not elite. I actually like the guy. Love his attitude and humor and agree he’d probably be a problem at Florida like most anybody with the in state talent. He’s overrated. Just like Vanderbilt. Media hype. The amount of love he gets on this board is a disgrace after the damage he maliciously caused Tennessee football.
 
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The offenses that Kiffin runs are genuinely fun to watch. He molds his QBs into dual threats, the lanky wideouts are always numerous, and they are always a threat to score from any part of the field. His use of the portal is uncanny. His present QB Chambliss won the job after the starter was injured and was another portal selection.
 
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Kiffin is a bum who essentially is a punk amateur. He competed with Butch Jones to be sabans plaything and conned Mike Hamilton into firing Fulmer only to burn down the house. Not many people like him even in his family.
 
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knox73 said:
Kiffin is a bum who essentially is a punk amateur. He competed with Butch Jones to be sabans plaything and conned Mike Hamilton into firing Fulmer only to burn down the house. Not many people like him even in his family.
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Fulmer was getting fired no matter what. The idea that Kiffin had anything to do with it is laughable.
 
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In fairness to Lane his dream job turned into a nightmare and USC was smart enough to sanitize their program. Tennessee was fortunate Kiffin left but unfortunately had no serious athletic director to hire a successor. Of course Mike Hamilton felt totally betrayed after Kiff tossed the Vol job into the Tennessee River in the depth of the night. Hammy should have been fired immediately after Kiffin left with Fulmer allowed to tell Mike to leave town. Don’t care if some Vol fans think Lanes recent success somehow redeems him - watch him screw over Ole Miss and another SEC program (hopefully the Gators).

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knox73 said:
In fairness to Lane his dream job turned into a nightmare and USC was smart enough to sanitize their program. Tennessee was fortunate Kiffin left but unfortunately had no serious athletic director to hire a successor. Of course Mike Hamilton felt totally betrayed after Kiff tossed the Vol job into the Tennessee River in the depth of the night. Hammy should have been fired immediately after Kiffin left with Fulmer allowed to tell Mike to leave town. Don’t care if some Vol fans think Lanes recent success somehow redeems him - watch him screw over Ole Miss and another SEC program (hopefully the Gators).

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Why would he screw over Ole Miss. Lane will likely have Ole Miss in the Top 6-7 by season’s end. Any school that wants him will have to wait until January to interview him as he will be dealing with playoff prep.

The knock on Ole Miss is they are too small to contend for titles. Well this is the year for them have a chance to prove that narrative wrong. People are so assured that Lane will leave but if he wins a game or two in the playoff, there is no incentive to leave and start a new job very late
To the game and rebuild over continuing to coach at Ole Miss.

The best thing he can do is drag LSU/UF along and make them wait an extra 4 weeks after the regular season where they are forced to see if Lane will leave or have to roll dice on mid major coach because they don’t want a 4-5 week dead period for recruiting.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Why would he screw over Ole Miss. Lane will likely have Ole Miss in the Top 6-7 by season’s end. Any school that wants him will have to wait until January to interview him as he will be dealing with playoff prep.

The knock on Ole Miss is they are too small to contend for titles. Well this is the year for them have a chance to prove that narrative wrong. People are so assured that Lane will leave but if he wins a game or two in the playoff, there is no incentive to leave and start a new job very late
To the game and rebuild over continuing to coach at Ole Miss.

The best thing he can do is drag LSU/UF along and make them wait an extra 4 weeks after the regular season where they are forced to see if Lane will leave or have to roll dice on mid major coach because they don’t want a 4-5 week dead period for recruiting.
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You may as well asked why he screwed us over.
 
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