Another Government Shutdown Thread

Fair enough. When the Dems say “they won’t negotiate “ the devil is in the details. There’s nothing to negotiate unless both sides want something. There’s nothing for the Republicans to gain in negotiations
There is nothing for the country to gain in negotiations.
 
Never thought I would say this but MTG has made a couple good statements on Maher tonight.

Just switched over to it and I assume the other guy is a Lefty since that's the general format for the show...Moynahan ...even he asked a great question:

The real question is HOW are there 42million people on food stamps in a country where unemployment is only 4.5%??
 
Never thought I would say this but MTG has made a couple good statements on Maher tonight.

Just switched over to it and I assume the other guy is a Lefty since that's the general format for the show...Moynahan ...even he asked a great question:

The real question is HOW are there 42million people on food stamps in a country where unemployment is only 4.5%??

It’s a great question that nobody ever wants to answer
 
Never thought I would say this but MTG has made a couple good statements on Maher tonight.

Just switched over to it and I assume the other guy is a Lefty since that's the general format for the show...Moynahan ...even he asked a great question:

The real question is HOW are there 42million people on food stamps in a country where unemployment is only 4.5%??
100 Biguns per year, bro. Social Welfare state.
 
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It’s a great question that nobody ever wants to answer
Exactly.

100 Biguns per year, bro. Social Welfare state.
Insane.

I keep hearing this 42million Americans on stamps number. Is that 42 million separate CLAIMS/SNAP cards which would actually put the number of people allegedly on the dole at say 4x that? So half the Americans roughly at 170million OR is that the total number of people ALLEGEDLY being fed/fattened/headed for obesity on say 10 million cardholders paperwork??

EITHER number is unbelievable.

I dont believe there are only about 10M cards out there buying groceries with my taxes supporting 42M people....

Nor do I believe that there are 42million cards meaning 160million or so Americans...roughly HALF of ALL Americans...are getting groceries/hot pockets and garbage from 7-11 on the dole while the OTHER half of the country pays for it?

Either way its insanity. The bottom scenario is closer to reality IMO but if thats the case...that just like actually PAYING income taxes...that half this country works their azzes off to pay for the OTHER half to NOT work, AND half this country has to be thrifty and selective about what groceries they buy and disciplined about rarely eating out JUST SO the other half of us can stack their carts full of steaks and expensive junk foods ALL paid for by the other actually hardworking and disciplined half of Americans then I honestly want to revolt.

Nevermind the HUGE amount of fraud in these entitlement programs. Nevermind the significant portion of SNAP groceries that are traded for drugs at half value from what I have heard. As in $100 worth of steaks or whatever else the drug dealer wants from the store is traded for $50 worth of drugs. If the Republicans give in to SNAP for illegals we need to tar and feather them all. We can draw and quarter the Dems or put them on the "stretcher" too. Thieves. All of em.
 
Exactly.


Insane.

I keep hearing this 42million Americans on stamps number. Is that 42 million separate CLAIMS/SNAP cards which would actually put the number of people allegedly on the dole at say 4x that? So half the Americans roughly at 170million OR is that the total number of people ALLEGEDLY being fed/fattened/headed for obesity on say 10 million cardholders paperwork??

EITHER number is unbelievable.

I dont believe there are only about 10M cards out there buying groceries with my taxes supporting 42M people....

Nor do I believe that there are 42million cards meaning 160million or so Americans...roughly HALF of ALL Americans...are getting groceries/hot pockets and garbage from 7-11 on the dole while the OTHER half of the country pays for it?

Either way its insanity. The bottom scenario is closer to reality IMO but if thats the case...that just like actually PAYING income taxes...that half this country works their azzes off to pay for the OTHER half to NOT work, AND half this country has to be thrifty and selective about what groceries they buy and disciplined about rarely eating out JUST SO the other half of us can stack their carts full of steaks and expensive junk foods ALL paid for by the other actually hardworking and disciplined half of Americans then I honestly want to revolt.

Nevermind the HUGE amount of fraud in these entitlement programs. Nevermind the significant portion of SNAP groceries that are traded for drugs at half value from what I have heard. As in $100 worth of steaks or whatever else the drug dealer wants from the store is traded for $50 worth of drugs. If the Republicans give in to SNAP for illegals we need to tar and feather them all. We can draw and quarter the Dems or put them on the "stretcher" too. Thieves. All of em.
I thought there was a new work requirement.who knows, the whole system is rotten.
 
If he is smart this will backfire on the democrats. If he is dumb, he will make himself look guilty when there is little he can do when the other side are playing extremism games. I look at this as an opportunity to finish what little credibility the democrat party has left and save some money in the process.
It's doesn't matter what happens. He showed he has zero involvement in actually leading. America last Trump first and this is further proof.
 
Never thought I would say this but MTG has made a couple good statements on Maher tonight.

Just switched over to it and I assume the other guy is a Lefty since that's the general format for the show...Moynahan ...even he asked a great question:

The real question is HOW are there 42million people on food stamps in a country where unemployment is only 4.5%??
4.5% probably is a lie...

But you can have a job and be poor. Ask the MAGA trailer parks and lib ghettos.
 
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4.5% probably is a lie...

But you can have a job and be poor. Ask the MAGA trailer parks and lib ghettos.

Your post above is a fact, but you have made a few statements akin to elitists. It may also be why your statements are getting liked by lefties now.

The way you frame it is condescending toward hard working people in unskilled jobs.

The issue is with lazy people and liars with the snap program. We also shouldn't be funding illegals if it's happening.
 
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On Friday’s broadcast of HBO’s “Real Time,” host Bill Maher stated that the government shutdown is “based on” Affordable Care Act subsidies that Democrats pulled “a bait-and-switch” on because they said, “we’re just doing this for the COVID emergency,” but after the emergency ended, have now said, “oh, no, it’s forever.”

“The Fifth Column” podcast co-host Michael Moynihan said, “We’re talking about these subsidies, that were COVID-era subsidies that were renewed. And the entire shutdown is based on these subsidies.”

Maher responded, “That is what the shutdown is based on. For people who don’t know, let me just say, during COVID, they upped the subsidies. And then, it is a bit of a bait-and-switch, I’ll give you, that’s true on that one. You can’t say — it’s not quite kosher to say, we’re just doing this for the COVID emergency, and then when the emergency’s over, say, oh, no, it’s forever. At least be honest about it.”
 

On Friday’s broadcast of HBO’s “Real Time,” host Bill Maher stated that the government shutdown is “based on” Affordable Care Act subsidies that Democrats pulled “a bait-and-switch” on because they said, “we’re just doing this for the COVID emergency,” but after the emergency ended, have now said, “oh, no, it’s forever.”

“The Fifth Column” podcast co-host Michael Moynihan said, “We’re talking about these subsidies, that were COVID-era subsidies that were renewed. And the entire shutdown is based on these subsidies.”

Maher responded, “That is what the shutdown is based on. For people who don’t know, let me just say, during COVID, they upped the subsidies. And then, it is a bit of a bait-and-switch, I’ll give you, that’s true on that one. You can’t say — it’s not quite kosher to say, we’re just doing this for the COVID emergency, and then when the emergency’s over, say, oh, no, it’s forever. At least be honest about it.”
The herd of bleating D partisans who frequently post unobjective opinions to this forum are convinced this is an R issue. Like Maher, I don't see it.
 
Your post above is a fact, but you have made a few statements akin to elitists. It may also be why your statements are getting liked by lefties now.

The way you frame it is condescending toward hard working people in unskilled jobs.

The issue is with lazy people and liars with the snap program. We also shouldn't be funding illegals if it's happening.
He views citizens the same way all swamp creatures do..
 
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Exactly.


Insane.

I keep hearing this 42million Americans on stamps number. Is that 42 million separate CLAIMS/SNAP cards which would actually put the number of people allegedly on the dole at say 4x that? So half the Americans roughly at 170million OR is that the total number of people ALLEGEDLY being fed/fattened/headed for obesity on say 10 million cardholders paperwork??

EITHER number is unbelievable.

I dont believe there are only about 10M cards out there buying groceries with my taxes supporting 42M people....

Nor do I believe that there are 42million cards meaning 160million or so Americans...roughly HALF of ALL Americans...are getting groceries/hot pockets and garbage from 7-11 on the dole while the OTHER half of the country pays for it?

Either way its insanity. The bottom scenario is closer to reality IMO but if thats the case...that just like actually PAYING income taxes...that half this country works their azzes off to pay for the OTHER half to NOT work, AND half this country has to be thrifty and selective about what groceries they buy and disciplined about rarely eating out JUST SO the other half of us can stack their carts full of steaks and expensive junk foods ALL paid for by the other actually hardworking and disciplined half of Americans then I honestly want to revolt.

Nevermind the HUGE amount of fraud in these entitlement programs. Nevermind the significant portion of SNAP groceries that are traded for drugs at half value from what I have heard. As in $100 worth of steaks or whatever else the drug dealer wants from the store is traded for $50 worth of drugs. If the Republicans give in to SNAP for illegals we need to tar and feather them all. We can draw and quarter the Dems or put them on the "stretcher" too. Thieves. All of em.
The interesting thing is that the very large number of socialistic receipts are rural White Trumpers, contrary to public opinion.
 
The interesting thing is that the very large number of socialistic receipts are rural White Trumpers, contrary to public opinion.
Got a link cuz I have one that states the opposite.
 
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