War in Ukraine

[SquirrelOrange3]

Minor postponement, don't be so negative. I'm confident that next summer is going to be a great beach party, I can't wait. They're almost there if you really stop and think about it.

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The October 2025 Crimea Summer Beach Party is in the warm and sunny Ottawa.

 

[BeardedVol]

Tennessee formally seceded from the USA. Ukraine formally seceded from the USSR.

The US Army eventually invaded Tennessee. The Russian army eventually invaded Ukraine.

The western and central parts of Tennessee and most of its population were very pro-Confederacy, with the smaller eastern region being very pro-USA. The western and central parts of Ukraine and most of its population are very pro-Ukraine, with the smaller eastern region being very pro-Russia.

It took years for the US Army to defeat the Confederate army in the pro-US eastern region of Tennessee. It's taking years for the Russian army to defeat the Ukrainian army in the pro-Russia region of Ukraine.

The USSR no longer exists, and Russia signed numerous treaties after the fact, recognizing Ukraine's status as an independent country.

 

[LSU-SIU]

The USSR no longer exists, and Russia signed numerous treaties after the fact, recognizing Ukraine's status as an independent country.

Obviously the people in Eastern Ukraine didn't or don't agree with all that. All of that seems fairly meaningless at this point, the winner makes the history.

 

[SquirrelOrange3]

The USSR no longer exists, and Russia signed numerous treaties after the fact, recognizing Ukraine's status as an independent country.

The Ukrainians signed numerous peace treaties with white Christians who ended up double crossing them? I'm shocked. SHOCKED!

 

[BeardedVol]

Obviously the people in Eastern Ukraine didn't or don't agree with all that. All of that seems fairly meaningless at this point, the winner makes the history.

Incorrect.


Besides, it's always cute when you guys try to pretend that 'unilateral succession' is the norm, and Ukraine is obligated to allow it.

 

[BeardedVol]

The Ukrainians signed numerous peace treaties with white Christians who ended up double crossing them? I'm shocked. SHOCKED!

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You're one upping yourself with dumb takes today.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Incorrect.
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Besides, it's always cute when you guys try to pretend that 'unilateral succession' is the norm, and Ukraine is obligated to allow it.

I don't know what all that means but they won. I don't pretend about much, they simply won.

 

[LouderVol]

Tennessee formally seceded from the USA. Ukraine formally seceded from the USSR.

The US Army eventually invaded Tennessee. The Russian army eventually invaded Ukraine.

The western and central parts of Tennessee and most of its population were very pro-Confederacy, with the smaller eastern region being very pro-USA. The western and central parts of Ukraine and most of its population are very pro-Ukraine, with the smaller eastern region being very pro-Russia.

It took years for the US Army to defeat the Confederate army in the pro-US eastern region of Tennessee. It's taking years for the Russian army to defeat the Ukrainian army in the pro-Russia region of Ukraine.

except Eastern Ukraine wasn't pro-Russian. it was very anti-the-president-who-sold-them-to-Russia. a fact that routinely ignored.

and the US government didn't preemptively invade eastern TN, overthrow the established government, kill elected officials, and hold a vote - at gun point - where the only options were "leave Tennessee" or "join the Union".

 

[LSU-SIU]

except Eastern Ukraine wasn't pro-Russian. it was very anti-the-president-who-sold-them-to-Russia. a fact that routinely ignored.

and the US government didn't preemptively invade eastern TN, overthrow the established government, kill elected officials, and hold a vote - at gun point - where the only options were "leave Tennessee" or "join the Union".

Obviously they were pro-Russian as they are Russian now - this is probably not going to change in our lifetime. The ones in the West might start to think of themselves as Polish.

 

[SquirrelOrange3]

You're one upping yourself with dumb takes today.

I one up myself with dumb takes, but you one up me with dumb takes.

"Bearded" Vol. Once upon a time, bearded men from all over the world went to Afghanistan to defeat the Russians plus 14 other Soviet republics combined. Yet, you sit and wave blue & yellow pom-poms and cheer this Ukrainian man to his demise when you and Lindsey Graham are the ones who want the war and this Ukrainian obviously does not.



Or maybe I misunderstood your username. Make it make sense. Does "Bearded" mean your wife is your "beard"?

 

[apevol]

I one up myself with dumb takes, but you one up me with dumb takes.

"Bearded" Vol. Once upon a time, bearded men from all over the world went to Afghanistan to defeat the Russians plus 14 other Soviet republics combined. Yet, you sit and wave blue & yellow pom-poms and cheer this Ukrainian man to his demise when you and Lindsey Graham are the ones who want the war and this Ukrainian obviously does not.



Or maybe I misunderstood your username. Make it make sense. Does "Bearded" mean your wife is your "beard"?

everything about this post gives me deja vu

 

[SquirrelOrange3]

Obviously they were pro-Russian as they are Russian now - this is probably not going to change in our lifetime. The ones in the West might start to think of themselves as Polish.

These guys act like Victoria "the Hutt" Nuland, John McCain, Joe Biden, Mitt Romney and the CIA didn't travel to Ukraine and assist in the 2014 overthrow of Ukraine's democratically-elected government, and that the people who elected said democratically-elected leader of Ukraine should just meekly accept a Western-sponsored coup with globalists lording over them, the same way we've meekly allowed multinational globalists to lord over us.

 

[hog88]

These guys act like Victoria "the Hutt" Nuland, John McCain, Joe Biden, Mitt Romney and the CIA didn't travel to Ukraine and assist in the 2014 overthrow of Ukraine's democratically-elected government, and that the people who elected said democratically-elected leader of Ukraine should just meekly accept a Western-sponsored coup with globalists lording over them, the same way we've meekly allowed multinational globalists to lord over us.


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How ya been Ras?

 

[SquirrelOrange3]

Incorrect.

Besides, it's always cute when you guys try to pretend that 'unilateral succession' is the norm, and Ukraine is obligated to allow it.

King George III didn't sign our Declaration of Independence. You must've missed that day of 2nd grade history class.

 

[SquirrelOrange3]

How ya been Ras?

Who's Ras? And who's turdovol? Are they the same person or different people?

 

[LouderVol]

Obviously they were pro-Russian as they are Russian now - this is probably not going to change in our lifetime. The ones in the West might start to think of themselves as Polish.

how were they pro-Russian?

The Russians literally had to send in their own troops to "volunteer" to fight the Ukrainians while pretending to be from Luhansk because there wasn't local support. Russia awarded metals to their own soldiers for the acts that the alleged pro-Russian rebels did.

 

[LouderVol]

How ya been Ras?

now I am 100% sure it is Ras. bringing up Nuland's cookies is a sure sign.

 

[LSU-SIU]

These guys act like Victoria "the Hutt" Nuland, John McCain, Joe Biden, Mitt Romney and the CIA didn't travel to Ukraine and assist in the 2014 overthrow of Ukraine's democratically-elected government, and that the people who elected said democratically-elected leader of Ukraine should just meekly accept a Western-sponsored coup with globalists lording over them, the same way we've meekly allowed multinational globalists to lord over us.


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Well, I agree with that but I would say the same thing I said to beard, it just doesn't matter at this point. Unless its to offer some perspective on how this all one day finishes up, meaning how it winds down or to give perspective as to the Russians.

I would say the same thing I said back in 2022, the best time to bring this to conclusion for the Ukrainians is today. Unfortunately, its increasingly hard to visualize how this works out for what remains of the Ukraine. It is or will become a full on failed State, imo, if any of it exists.

Europe is really on deck.

 

[BeardedVol]

These guys act like Victoria "the Hutt" Nuland, John McCain, Joe Biden, Mitt Romney and the CIA didn't travel to Ukraine and assist in the 2014 overthrow of Ukraine's democratically-elected government, and that the people who elected said democratically-elected leader of Ukraine should just meekly accept a Western-sponsored coup with globalists lording over them, the same way we've meekly allowed multinational globalists to lord over us.


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Can you point out Victoria Nuland, John McCain, Joe Biden, Mitt Romney and the CIA in the video?

 

[LouderVol]

These guys act like Victoria "the Hutt" Nuland, John McCain, Joe Biden, Mitt Romney and the CIA didn't travel to Ukraine and assist in the 2014 overthrow of Ukraine's democratically-elected government, and that the people who elected said democratically-elected leader of Ukraine should just meekly accept a Western-sponsored coup with globalists lording over them, the same way we've meekly allowed multinational globalists to lord over us.


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Lets throw some facts on this for anyone who can't quiet remember what actually happened.

-old Ukrainian president, Yanukovych, was elected on pro-western ties. so this map above is hilarious because it proves how it hurt these russian apologists arguments. go check yanukovychs popularity in the previous election where he wasn't pro-west and compare it to this one if you don't believe me.
-anyway, as Ukraine was approaching a deal which would have allowed Ukraine to access western markets and loans, suddenly Yanukovych crawfishes. drops the deal. and signs a mystery deal with Russia.
-this pisses the population off. not only did he lie about his intentions, but he was very clearly working for the Russians.
-there are mass riots over the entire country, including eastern ukraine.
-it gets so bad that Yanukovych agrees to hold a special election for his job.
-before the election can be held, his supporters shoot into a crowd. shortly after Yanukovych is rescued by Russian special forces and taken to Russia, where he remains today.
-Ukraines parliament holds a vote and impeaches Yanukovych, I am pretty sure its unanimous. but I could be wrong on that last part. they removed him per their Constitution.
-After his official removal Nuland is seen in Ukraine giving out cookies and making phone calls. Nuland works for the secretary of state, and her literal job is to know what is going on in foreign nations.
-during said phone call she mentions three names. no real context is given as we only have her side of it. she says she can work with either three. sounds nefarious right? this is where they get the claims that we set up a government. so...
-Ukraine holds the special election. none of those three names get elected temporary president. none of those three gain any new positions or titles.
-about a year later Ukraine holds their usual election. none of those three are elected to president, again, and I am pretty sure 2 of them lose the job they did have.
-after that 5 year term (normal for Ukraine), Ukraine holds another election and this is where the nazi Jew cokehead actor comes into power.


and here we are. we are three elections deep into "the US taking over Ukraine", before Russia's invasion activates a clause where no elections can be held in areas of martial law. considering putin is dropping missiles all over the country, this seems pretty reasonable to me. the law sucks, but its what their pre-existing laws say.

 

[SquirrelOrange3]

how were they pro-Russian?

The Russians literally had to send in their own troops to "volunteer" to fight the Ukrainians while pretending to be from Luhansk because there wasn't local support. Russia awarded metals to their own soldiers for the acts that the alleged pro-Russian rebels did.

Are we to believe you, or actual Lugansk citizens like Faina Savenkova?



I mean, just yesterday you said the Russian government sends people from Lugansk to die in gulags, yet Lugansk girls as young as 12 are put on the Ukraine government websites publishing her photo and home address. And I was listening to Stas Krapivnik last night, talking about Venezuela. He's originally from Lugansk, served in the US Army, and now lives in Russia. He's not dying in a gulag. You're very brainwashed by Hannity & Maddow.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Lets throw some facts on this for anyone who can't quiet remember what actually happened.

-old Ukrainian president, Yanukovych, was elected on pro-western ties. so this map above is hilarious because it proves how it hurt these russian apologists arguments. go check yanukovychs popularity in the previous election where he wasn't pro-west and compare it to this one if you don't believe me.
-anyway, as Ukraine was approaching a deal which would have allowed Ukraine to access western markets and loans, suddenly Yanukovych crawfishes. drops the deal. and signs a mystery deal with Russia.
-this pisses the population off. not only did he lie about his intentions, but he was very clearly working for the Russians.
-there are mass riots over the entire country, including eastern ukraine.
-it gets so bad that Yanukovych agrees to hold a special election for his job.
-before the election can be held, his supporters shoot into a crowd. shortly after Yanukovych is rescued by Russian special forces and taken to Russia, where he remains today.
-Ukraines parliament holds a vote and impeaches Yanukovych, I am pretty sure its unanimous. but I could be wrong on that last part. they removed him per their Constitution.
-After his official removal Nuland is seen in Ukraine giving out cookies and making phone calls. Nuland works for the secretary of state, and her literal job is to know what is going on in foreign nations.
-during said phone call she mentions three names. no real context is given as we only have her side of it. she says she can work with either three. sounds nefarious right? this is where they get the claims that we set up a government. so...
-Ukraine holds the special election. none of those three names get elected temporary president. none of those three gain any new positions or titles.
-about a year later Ukraine holds their usual election. none of those three are elected to president, again, and I am pretty sure 2 of them lose the job they did have.
-after that 5 year term (normal for Ukraine), Ukraine holds another election and this is where the nazi Jew cokehead actor comes into power.


and here we are. we are three elections deep into "the US taking over Ukraine", before Russia's invasion activates a clause where no elections can be held in areas of martial law. considering putin is dropping missiles all over the country, this seems pretty reasonable to me. the law sucks, but its what their pre-existing laws say.

No, that isn't all it.

Just like when I said Trump should disclose all the CIA asset there and everyone freaked out even though we're not there. It's like saying the UK wasn't involved in trying to overthrow the duly elected government here. They sure in the hell were.

So, no those are not the real facts in context which is why you have video of McCain having a window view to the revolution. But continue on, as it doesn't matter at this point.

 

[BeardedVol]

Are we to believe you, or actual Lugansk citizens like Faina Savenkova?



I mean, just yesterday you said the Russian government sends people from Lugansk to die in gulags, yet Lugansk girls as young as 12 are put on the Ukraine government websites publishing her photo and home address. And I was listening to Stas Krapivnik last night, talking about Venezuela. He's originally from Lugansk, served in the US Army, and now lives in Russia. He's not dying in a gulag. You're very brainwashed by Hannity & Maddow.

Lol

Russia admits its soldiers have been caught in Ukraine

Issue of captured soldiers to be discussed at meeting between Putin and his Ukrainian counterpart on Tuesday afternoon

www.theguardian.com

Russian military vehicles enter Ukraine as aid convoy stops short of border

Armoured personnel carriers and support vehicles cross the border, while the 280-truck convoy comes to a halt separately

www.theguardian.com

Russia's Igor Strelkov: I Am Responsible for War in Eastern Ukraine

Russian national Igor Strelkov, a former commander of pro-Moscow separatists in eastern Ukraine, has claimed personal responsibility for unleashing the conflict in which 4,300 people have been killed since April.

www.themoscowtimes.com

You need to get better talking points from you handlers, these are really played out after a decade plus of use.

 

[SquirrelOrange3]

Lol

Russia admits its soldiers have been caught in Ukraine

Issue of captured soldiers to be discussed at meeting between Putin and his Ukrainian counterpart on Tuesday afternoon

www.theguardian.com

Russian military vehicles enter Ukraine as aid convoy stops short of border

Armoured personnel carriers and support vehicles cross the border, while the 280-truck convoy comes to a halt separately

www.theguardian.com

Russia's Igor Strelkov: I Am Responsible for War in Eastern Ukraine

Russian national Igor Strelkov, a former commander of pro-Moscow separatists in eastern Ukraine, has claimed personal responsibility for unleashing the conflict in which 4,300 people have been killed since April.

www.themoscowtimes.com

You need to get better talking points from you handlers, these are really played out after a decade plus of use.

Just because Russia assisted the rebel provinces and Russians fought there even before 2022 doesn't mean that there haven't been local LPR & DPR militias. That would be like saying these American guys and others are proof that Ukraine's war versus Russia is purely an American operation with zero actual support from Ukrainians themselves. That would be an absurd claim, but that's what you're basically doing.

 

[BeardedVol]

Just because Russia assisted the rebel provinces and Russians fought there even before 2022 doesn't mean that there haven't been local LPR & DPR militias. That would be like saying this American guy and others are proof that Ukraine's war versus Russia is purely an American operation with zero actual support from Ukrainians themselves. That would be an absurd claim, but that's what you're basically doing.

Lol "assisted".

'War Buryats of the Russian World': Russian 5th Tank Brigade in Donbas - InformNapalm.org (English)

We really do not have many 'miners' from Buryatia in Donbas in peaceful times... It's a like a rabbit from a hat...

informnapalm.org