President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

That is a really good place to be. Lots of nice stuff to be had at “accessible” prices.

I’d work up to VC and call it a day.

Only patek I need is my Hamilton Whitford (original “a” model, not the later “b” version.)
It comes with the 770 manual wound movement. So smooth, so accurate. The “American Patek” (as if.)
What's the mm? I want a manual wind and my first has been, in my mind, the moonwatch but havent grabbed it yet. I need no smaller than 41mm..
 
Maybe it's the fact that Obama didn't blatantly lie about it and then proceed to demolish an entire 100+ year old wing??
Devastating. Where, oh where shall the calligrapher go?

This is why I can’t take you seriously. The Dems in DC refuse to pass a CR to a budget that has already passed before, to keep services coming and people working jobs, but you are worried about “lies” regarding the “people’s house” rather than continuing government operations under the last budget (Biden’s, btw) and working in a new one.

I have no idea if Trump meant the actual WH or the East Wing when he said “the building”wouldn’t be touched. I also have no idea if building plans changed for one reason or another. See, for example, the one-year LNS project that is now projected to go 3 years. Or any number of alterations to Neyland. Have we been lied to by our AD? (Oh, terrible example, of course we have - fire DW!)

I also know the federal government has a much much easier chance (and higher likelihood) of going through every room, closet and safe in my house than I do of walking 2 steps beyond a rope line of “the People’s House.” All it takes is meeting the same “ham sandwich” standard I have been told means nothing via-a-vis the Comey and James indictments.

So, spare me the sanctimonious BS.

Heck, given the disingenuousness of our government, I am not sure this isn’t a real build related to major renovations being done to the Presidential Emergency Operations Center. It is a perfect cover for it. And if that is happening, it is brilliant.
 
What's the mm? I want a manual wind and my first has been, in my mind, the moonwatch but havent grabbed it yet. I need no smaller than 41mm..
Oh no, the Whitford, as with many late 50’s, early 60’s dress watches, was much smaller.

You looking sporty? Interested in vintage at all, or just new? Do you want waterproof?

Moonwatch is a classic, but they have tripled in price, if not 4x, in the last decade. I had a chance at 5 for 10k (total) 10 years ago, a special edition. I passed. They sell at 12k each now. I’m an idiot.
 
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Sounds real similar to Biden. Careful MAGA, words.

 
Oh no, the Whitford, as with many late 50’s, early 60’s dress watches, was much smaller.

You looking sporty? Interested in vintage at all, or just new? Do you want waterproof?

Moonwatch is a classic, but they have tripled in price, if not 4x, in the last decade. I had a chance at 5 for 10k (total) 10 years ago, a special edition. I passed. They sell at 12k each now. I’m an idiot.
I want a black chronograph, thinking moonwatch or tag carerra, I want a green dial, a bronze case, a watch with gold..2 tone is fine, open casebacks. I prefer pilot and divers. I could just buy a bunch or Seikos and call it a day.
 
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Maybe so. Maybe it doesn’t matter numerically, but I’m also not sure I agree with how you defined “right wing” or who falls into it.

One of the ways that I think the presence of “everyone else” exacerbates rather than resolves the echo chamber effect is that I think it creates a bunch of fake independents.

Gallup says Trump’s approval rating is around 30% with independents and sub 40% with US adults. Both of those numbers have declined from close to 50% in January. It’s just one pollster, but the decline is pretty consistent with the last time I looked at RCP or Nate Silver.

Look around here at how many of the right leaning “independents” have changed stripes and it’s not 2/5. Not 1/5. I doubt it’s more than 1/20 that have gone from agnostic or approve to disapprove. Honestly, there are probably more who at least appear to have gone the other way.

A lot of potential explanations for that, but I think a big chunk of it is that there is a self-perceived uptick in credibility for partisans who claim to be non-partisan and there’s no reputational harm stemming from just being bad at the schtick.
I think I probably know of who you envision. They aren’t in the “everyone else” bucket, and I wouldn’t challenge someone’s placement of them in the “right-wing” bucket.

Across almost every topic that comes up, I see myself reflected most closely in Mojo & VolFanHill, though I’m not sure what others would perceive us (me) as.
We’re certainly not Dink/Septic/Huff, but nor are we McDad/Hog/Slice.

I strongly disapprove of most of what Trump does, but that goes back to the first time around when we (I) were originally railing against his reindeer game tariffs in the Wall Street thread.

So I guess I haven’t really moved much - I still loathe Trump, and the majority of the Democrats. I dislike MTG as much as Omar.

But I still maintain there are more straight up Dems/Progressives/Liberals than people realize - they just aren’t seen as vividly as the other end. Maybe that’s an effect.
 
I want a black chronograph, thinking moonwatch or tag carerra, I want a green dial, a bronze case, a watch with gold..2 tone is fine, open casebacks. I prefer pilot and divers. I could just buy a bunch or Seikos and call it a day.

Monaco is for sure on my short list right now. Just bought a Jazzmaster open heart (should be in next week). Will try to find a used Monaco for around 5-6k next. Red/white/blue dial with the black alligator strap.
 
I think I probably know of who you envision. They aren’t in the “everyone else” bucket, and I wouldn’t challenge someone’s placement of them in the “right-wing” bucket.

Across almost every topic that comes up, I see myself reflected most closely in Mojo & VolFanHill, though I’m not sure what others would perceive us (me) as.
We’re certainly not Dink/Septic/Huff, but nor are we McDad/Hog/Slice.
We're the cool kids though, right?
 
I think I probably know of who you envision. They aren’t in the “everyone else” bucket, and I wouldn’t challenge someone’s placement of them in the “right-wing” bucket.

Across almost every topic that comes up, I see myself reflected most closely in Mojo & VolFanHill, though I’m not sure what others would perceive us (me) as.
We’re certainly not Dink/Septic/Huff, but nor are we McDad/Hog/Slice.

I strongly disapprove of most of what Trump does, but that goes back to the first time around when we (I) were originally railing against his reindeer game tariffs in the Wall Street thread.

So I guess I haven’t really moved much - I still loathe Trump, and the majority of the Democrats. I dislike MTG as much as Omar.

But I still maintain there are more straight up Dems/Progressives/Liberals than people realize - they just aren’t seen as vividly as the other end. Maybe that’s an effect.

I think you align more with Franklin Pierce and Pacervol, really.
 
The British even got a pass for their redecorating in 1814

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It’s a dumb thing to get worked up about. The White House has been through many changes over the years.
If someone wants to get worked up about something, ask yourself how Trump is already breaking ground on The White House Ballroom yet most in The Pacific Palisades and Altadena still haven't gotten a permit to rebuild their houses from a fire that began before Trump took office and ended shortly after. As of this week, 11,000 homes destroyed and 1300 permits issued for rebuild. Exposes the difficulty of building something in a deep blue state(Newsom) versus building something with a Republican in charge(Trump).
 
If someone wants to get worked up about something, ask yourself how Trump is already breaking ground on The White House Ballroom yet most in The Pacific Palisades and Altadena still haven't gotten a permit to rebuild their houses from a fire that began before Trump took office and ended shortly after. As of this week, 11,000 homes destroyed and 1300 permits issued for rebuild. Exposes the difficulty of building something in a deep blue state(Newsom) versus building something with a Republican in charge(Trump).

I’m not going to get upset about it. Californians have what they’ve voted for.
 
I think I probably know of who you envision. They aren’t in the “everyone else” bucket, and I wouldn’t challenge someone’s placement of them in the “right-wing” bucket.

Across almost every topic that comes up, I see myself reflected most closely in Mojo & VolFanHill, though I’m not sure what others would perceive us (me) as.
We’re certainly not Dink/Septic/Huff, but nor are we McDad/Hog/Slice.

I strongly disapprove of most of what Trump does, but that goes back to the first time around when we (I) were originally railing against his reindeer game tariffs in the Wall Street thread.

So I guess I haven’t really moved much - I still loathe Trump, and the majority of the Democrats. I dislike MTG as much as Omar.

But I still maintain there are more straight up Dems/Progressives/Liberals than people realize - they just aren’t seen as vividly as the other end. Maybe that’s an effect.
you are in the “special” group.
 
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