littleorange1
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Lol DG will be traded or released. The .190 will dictate this.The President of The University of Tennessee is a baseball man. I’m sure he’ll be intimately involved in the coaching decision, which should help with the transition and direction.
Also, the person we should be most pissed at is Drew Gilbert. He’s the one who recommended him to Buster Posey/San Francisco.
This is a reasonable takeWhile I don't normally get involved in these types of back and forth discussions, for some reason I just can't help myself right now. All I'll say is "WOW! Just WOW!" I get the impression from many of the comments, responses, and rebuttals flying around in this thread that many of you have no understanding whatsoever of the concept of hierarchical management. DW sounds like a true believer in the concept and employs it as his way of running a very large corporation, which is exactly what the UT Athletic Department is. And just because he believes in the concept of following a chain of command in dealing with his subordinates on official matters, I don't think that precludes him from actually talking to any and all of the people under him. Does he? I don't know because I don't work for him or interact with him in that business environment. And unless one of you is a UTAD staff member lurking around among us, none of you are directly in that environment either, so you don't know as well. Some of you say it's a house of cards that's getting ready to fall down, but from the perspective that it seems to be one of the more successful ADs in the country right now with plenty of money for this and that, it seems to me he knows what he's doing. Sure, we as fans are getting screwed on higher prices for tickets and parking passes and whatnot, but I hate to tell all of you, we're not the only ones. I live in N. Alabama and have plenty of friends who are Auburn fans (and a few bamer fans, and other schools) and they gripe and complain just as much or more than me about rising prices in anything related to their respective schools. Unfortunately, it's the nature of the beast right now.
As for the press conference, I've watched it twice and heard a few snippets replayed on radio, and I still don't see the negativity many of you seem to find in it. I also don't pick up on any egotistical aspects to his responses or the things he said. Some want to say his statement relative to Coach Caldwell and the Lady Vols about the funding issues will be divisive, but I would counter that the fact that was even being addressed (because of the unsubstantiated, and inaccurate rumor) shows there is already division among the fanbase. I wonder if some of you actually listened to the entire press conference, rather than gleaning specific snippets here and there that supported the argument you already had in mind. You say he contradicted himself regarding the funding. That's entirely untrue; he explained it well enough that most people should have been able to understand it. Regarding the $20.5 mil funds for revenue sharing, he said they, like most schools, "pre-loaded" (i.e., they went ahead and allocated those funds) $2.5 mil among the various programs (with baseball receiving a fairly large share) prior to the revenue sharing agreement going into effect on July 1st. That then left $18 mil for dispersal under the percentages recommended by the US HoR agreement - i.e., 75% Football, 15% MBB, 5% WBB, and 5% all other sports. The $750K for the baseball program is a little more than 4% of the $18mil, meaning baseball got the bulk of the "other 5%."
The basic truth here is many of you are hurt that Tony is leaving us and you want to blame it on anything other than the fact it was a unique opportunity he simply could not pass up. You want to say DW didn't do anything, or didn't do enough, to keep Tony here, when the reality is greater there was really nothing DW could do to make that happen. Some of you are the ones contradicting yourselves when you say "Look at the IU AD and see what he did to keep his coach there when other schools tried to poach him." Let me think... hmmm... Was it not just 2 years ago we had other schools looking to poach Tony after the CWS win, and what did DW do? Oh, that's right - he renegotiated Tony's contract and made him (at that time) the highest paid coach in college baseball. Folks, this is an entirely different, and unprecedented, situation. You can keep banging your head against the brick wall, but that wall's not going to budge despite your best efforts. If, as many of you say, Tony had such a horrible working relationship with DW, would he not have immediately jumped at the SF MLB offer, rather than evaluating and thinking about it for almost two weeks before deciding to take the leap??? Seems to me he was really torn between staying at a place where he felt safe and supported as compared to jumping into a dream scenario fraught with risk and no guarantee of future success and stability.
Maybe not on a regular basis. He doesnt even know some of the people that work in his dept, that he walks past everyday on a daily basis. Im not saying he's a terrible a.d, but he has to communicate more. Had he communicated with Tony more, I believe Tony would probably still be here. Bottom line, we shouldn't be here today.Is it common for ADs to meet regularly with assistant coaches across all sports? That seems like a lot, but I can’t say I really know what the norm is there.
If Danny woulda just up called Tony an’ said, ‘Tony, don’t even t’ink about goin’ ta da big leagues, ya hear me?’ Tony wouldn’ta even t’ought about it.Maybe not on a regular basis. He doesnt even know some of the people that work in his dept, that he walks past everyday on a daily basis. Im not saying he's a terrible a.d, but he has to communicate more. Had he communicated with Tony more, I believe Tony would probably still be here. Bottom line, we shouldn't be here today.
danny youre embarassing yourself--shouldnt you be out finding a baseball coach?What is wrong with some of you people? I just watched DW's press conference and saw nothing whatsoever that should be viewed as a negative, and I certainly didn't hear him whining about anything. I'm not sure what some of you are looking for. I also think many of you place too much faith in the rumor mill of false information that's been floating around for the past week or so.
First and foremost, CTV doesn't owe us anything. We should be grateful to have had him for the period he has been here and for the level of success to which he has pushed the program. I get it that some of you are butthurt that "he's leaving us" but get over yourselves. While we can be disappointed that he's leaving, how proud should we be that he is doing it because his success has granted him the opportunity to do something THAT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE! Let me repeat that - he is doing something THAT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE! What we should all be doing is wishing him luck in this new endeavor because it is almost certain to be a daunting task.
I also listened to what DW said about the financial issues and I didn't hear anything negative there. In fact he said that all 34 roster spots (the limit under the new NCAA guidelines) for the baseball team have full scholarships tied to them. That's considerably different than the 11.7 scholarships they had to divide up among the players prior to the new changes. He also totally shot down the rumor that money was being taken from the baseball program and diverted to the women's programs. The percentages by which the funds have been split up among the programs have been set for some time; the revenue sharing just formalizes part of the process. He said the UT baseball program was as well funded as any college baseball program in the country. Money was never an issue in any of this. This was all about a once-in-a-lifetime, first-time ever, opportunity for CTV because of his success at UT.
As for the "communication" issues some of you deem to have been a problem, DW said Tony had kept him informed throughout the process over the past two weeks, so DW and his staff had been preparing for the possibility that Tony would take the SF job. He talked about naming Frank as the interim acting head coach because the players needed to know who was in charge during this transition, and also because Frank had head coaching experience. He said Josh Elander can focus on preparing his application for the job while continuing to perform his other assigned tasks. He laid out plans for keeping the players informed about the process, and for the coaching search under such unusual circumstances.
While I'm disappointed to lose Tony, I think the program is in a good place to "weather the storm" so many of you seem to think is heading our way. Whatever happens, GBO!!!
Blaming? Tony is grown ass man and made a decision. That doesn’t change the atmosphere and conditions that may have opened the channels of communication that ultimately led to the decision. This is what some of you just can’t figure out.Anyone blaming DW for Tony taking a MLB job is an insufferable DA
Is this supposed to be blue font, or what? If you listened to what he said, he is out looking for a new coach. He said he’s already enlisted the services of the organization that helped with the search for the WBB coach (resulting in Coach Caldwell’s hiring). He also said he told Elander to prepare his application package.danny youre embarassing yourself--shouldnt you be out finding a baseball coach?
Anyone is a bit strong. Comprehensive Negative value add on the field, in the stands or within social media is what it is and their loss is a plus for the program. Those that practice constant repackaging of their thoughts to take advantage of IF YOU SEE IT ON THE INTERNET IT MUST BE TRUE concepts are what they are. An infinitely small portion of the fanbase making disproportionately large noises publicly.You can't keep everyone happy. But alienating anyone that spends money as a Vol fan in this day and age is a mi$take.
There is an easy play/risk averse if he can get out of his own way. You hire the assistant. If he fails...wish him well and move on. Its not on you.
Furthermore, this is baseball though right DW defenders? It doesn't matter or so you've said.