Tony Vitello to SF Giants (Confirmed)

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patrick said:
FYI - if Title IX becomes an issue it will either:

1. Blow the whole system to bits because the work of football players (and to a much lesser extent men's basketball players) carries/funds all athletic departments and most athletic departments don't turn any profit whatsoever; or

2. The accountants will "do the math" and determine (a) how much revenue is generated by each sport for tickets, merchandise, tv contracts, cokes and popcorn; (b) the expenses of each sport (and I mean every line item); (c) that no sport other than perhaps football and men's basketball actually turn a profit.

This analysis could ultimately result in revenue sharing for only football and men's basketball ---- that is the true reality.

Oh and LSU baseball has been a profit sport for many years and I have heard that Arkansas baseball may also be profitable but TN women's basketball never actually turned a profit even under Pat's incredible run ---- the multi-million dollar annual transfer payment to the women's basketball program is how they "cooked the books" for women's basketball.....

Revenue sharing is an interesting concept when most athletic departments around the country actually lose money (or have large infusions of state money) annually because most college sports can't pay their own freight - the freight here again is carried by football and to lesser extend men's basketball.

If title IX ever really became a true issue for revenue sharing then under title IX every college athlete on scholarship should arguably receive the same amount of revenue share regardless of the sport - that is unless you do the math - then only profitable sports would receive any revenue sharing.

The House settlement has been appealed due to Title IX issues but the House settlement does not address future revenue sharing. I'm actually surprised that some bright young female college scholarship athlete has not already filed a Title IX suit because she and every other female schollie athlete (and non football playing male scholarship athlete) are not receiving the same amount of revenue share. You must remember that title IX is all about equality - equal number of scholarships for women's sports as men's sports! That suit will arrive eventually and blow the whole revenue sharing model to heck.
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I'm sort of waiting for the shoe to drop.
 
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patrick said:
FYI - if Title IX becomes an issue it will either:

1. Blow the whole system to bits because the work of football players (and to a much lesser extent men's basketball players) carries/funds all athletic departments and most athletic departments don't turn any profit whatsoever; or

2. The accountants will "do the math" and determine (a) how much revenue is generated by each sport for tickets, merchandise, tv contracts, cokes and popcorn; (b) the expenses of each sport (and I mean every line item); (c) that no sport other than perhaps football and men's basketball actually turn a profit.

This analysis could ultimately result in revenue sharing for only football and men's basketball ---- that is the true reality.

Oh and LSU baseball has been a profit sport for many years and I have heard that Arkansas baseball may also be profitable but TN women's basketball never actually turned a profit even under Pat's incredible run ---- the multi-million dollar annual transfer payment to the women's basketball program is how they "cooked the books" for women's basketball.....

Revenue sharing is an interesting concept when most athletic departments around the country actually lose money (or have large infusions of state money) annually because most college sports can't pay their own freight - the freight here again is carried by football and to lesser extend men's basketball.

If title IX ever really became a true issue for revenue sharing then under title IX every college athlete on scholarship should arguably receive the same amount of revenue share regardless of the sport - that is unless you do the math - then only profitable sports would receive any revenue sharing.

The House settlement has been appealed due to Title IX issues but the House settlement does not address future revenue sharing. I'm actually surprised that some bright young female college scholarship athlete has not already filed a Title IX suit because she and every other female schollie athlete (and non football playing male scholarship athlete) are not receiving the same amount of revenue share. You must remember that title IX is all about equality - equal number of scholarships for women's sports as men's sports! That suit will arrive eventually and blow the whole revenue sharing model to heck.
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Yes. But in the scenario you describe of trying to “run the numbers” to justify more money going to certain places, it’s going to be hard to run the numbers to justify giving the money to baseball (which is a multi-million dollar net negative) vs. women’s sports. Football is a different discussion when it is throwing off tens of millions every year — not everybody is going to agree with the argument, but it’s much easier to distinguish football from women’s bball than it is to distinguish baseball from women’s bball. And, importantly, women’s bball generates substantially more revenue than any other women’s sport, so sending money there is the way to make it look like you’re trying to be “equitable” as an athletic department.
 
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Christian Lowe said:
maybe, but Tony's impact on Tennessee and its fans is easily 100x anything Kimmy can do. It's more than Summit did in her heyday.
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There are Tennessee fans who still don’t know CTVs name.
Everyone in the United States knows the name Pat Summit and how great she was.
 
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Christian Lowe said:
Where was she going to go? Coach the LA Sparks for the salary of a general manager of a Whole Foods?
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SMH........ DUDE TV left us for SF Giants........ HE LEFT US. Wish him well and move on. He had the funding to win and do everything he wanted except buy every damn player he wanted. This is the 3rd straight year he has taken calls from somewhere. HE left US. Blame who you want but at the end of the ***** day he left on his own. Stop b1tching
 
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BigALWiLson said:
SMH........ DUDE TV left us for SF Giants........ HE LEFT US. Wish him well and move on. He had the funding to win and do everything he wanted except buy every damn player he wanted. This is the 3rd straight year he has taken calls from somewhere. HE left US. Blame who you want but at the end of the ***** day he left on his own. Stop b1tching
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Idk what any of this has to do with what I said lol
 
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BigALWiLson said:
SMH........ DUDE TV left us for SF Giants........ HE LEFT US. Wish him well and move on. He had the funding to win and do everything he wanted except buy every damn player he wanted. This is the 3rd straight year he has taken calls from somewhere. HE left US. Blame who you want but at the end of the ***** day he left on his own. Stop b1tching
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“You’re either a Vol or you’re not”

Looks like he chose “Not”
 
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I'm not going to lose any sleep over this but I find an interesting dynamic here. When Kiffin bolted for his "dream job," people set sofas on fire in the streets and he's still public enemy number one. In essence, Vitello has done the same thing but he's getting all the love out the door. Yes, Tony accomplished more in his time but the result is really the same. On to the next.
 
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Christian Lowe said:
elevated it from never on tv and no one cares to on tv once a month and a few people care
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I mean, the women's final four has about 3-4 times the viewership of the college world series. I loved Tony's time here and his impact, but for those who lived through it can attest, there was no bigger cultural icon from the UT athletics programs than Summitt.

Regardless, losing Vitelllo is a serious blow to our AD, no matter his replacement.
 
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patrick said:
Im headed home now from the office and have a 45 minute drive to bask in the pain of losing a generational coach! Wish I was dreaming.......It's like a nightmare that I can't wake up from......

Screw Danny Dollars - what a jack leg.....
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It’s also just our luck that big time franchise came calling at all. Crazy, but the most Tennessee thing ever.
 
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Unimane said:
I mean, the women's final four has about 3-4 times the viewership of the college world series. I loved Tony's time here and his impact, but for those who lived through it can attest, there was no bigger cultural icon from the UT athletics programs than Summitt.

Regardless, losing Vitelllo is a serious blow to our AD, no matter his replacement.
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I guess. It might just be me, but I never cared or watched, and didn't know anyone who cared or watched.. and still don't know anyone who cares or watches women's basketball.
 
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T-for-Tennessee said:
I'm not going to lose any sleep over this but I find an interesting dynamic here. When Kiffin bolted for his "dream job," people set sofas on fire in the streets and he's still public enemy number one. In essence, Vitello has done the same thing but he's getting all the love out the door. Yes, Tony accomplished more in his time but the result is really the same. On to the next.
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Dumb comparison
 
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