President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

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FLVOL_79 said:
No. Its not Russian propaganda. I'm saying you are pushing kremlin approved propaganda and may or may not be compensated for doing it. If you HAVE TO ALL CAPS things THROUGHOUT your POSTS, you might be a Russian bot and not even know it. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER.
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FLVOL_79 said:
To go golfing every weekend and not lead? To add trillions to the debt? To increase taxes? Yall must be some suckers then.
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My taxes didn’t go up during his 1st term. The tax cuts helped my paycheck being a blue collar worker. Trump is doing such a good job he might be able to play golf everyday the last 2 years.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
You’re saying you’re correct that there were “balls” involved in refusing to support a nominee who said he has a Nazi streak, who can be pulled and replaced immediately, and whose replacement can take place without even the potential for loss of any government control?
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No, I'm saying they had more balls than Dems who've stood by the VA AG candidate. Neither move requires much in the way of testicular fortitude - it's a relative assessment
 
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volinbham said:
No, I'm saying they had more balls than Dems who've stood by the VA AG candidate. Neither move requires much in the way of testicular fortitude - it's a relative assessment
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Okay, so you’re doubling (now tripling) down on having accurately assessed the relative scrotum contents in favor republicans based on actions that you can’t say required balls.

I’m sure you’re doing something here, but it’s not disproving my thesis.
 
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volinbham said:
No, I'm saying they had more balls than Dems who've stood by the VA AG candidate. Neither move requires much in the way of testicular fortitude - it's a relative assessment
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RockyTop85 said:
Okay, so you’re doubling (now tripling) down on having accurately assessed the relative scrotum contents in favor republicans based on actions that you can’t say required balls.

I’m sure you’re doing something here, but it’s not disproving my thesis.
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It's getting teste up in here.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Cc: @BigOrangeMojo and @85SugarVol

You guys had a discussion a few days ago about whether this forum is a right wing echo chamber. It was a very numbers-based discussion.

I considered suggesting that you discuss the effect of some non-quantifiable observations such as disparity of responses or reputational harm from ridiculously partisan statements (and whether the presence of dissenting minority creates a social climate that actually makes it more of an echo chamber).

I thought it needed a recent example that wouldn’t be so contentious that it pulled the discussion off topic. This seems like a pretty good one.

The claim that republicans can be favorably distinguished from democrats by their courageous (or ballsy) withdrawal of support for embattled candidates or nominees is not a statement to be taken seriously.*

It would cause some reputational harm to say that in a forum that truly valued balanced opinions. Here, there’s no real threat of harm, the comment went largely unnoticed, and receives mostly positive feedback from those who acknowledge it.

This (speaking of the trend, not so much this one example) contributes to creating an environment where the perception of reality is skewed a bit to the right.
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When you see the worst of the parties is when you see the echo chamber the most.

When Trump (or someone is his orbit) lies or does something stupid, 40 percent of the board defends it no matter what. 30 percent will ignore or "whatchaboutism" it, and 30 percent will criticize it.

When the left does same thing, 10 percent defend it, 10 percent ignore /whatchaboutism it, and 80 percent criticize it...
 
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@RockyTop85

Here's another example. A poster posted a quote from Boebert complaining about the need for all the taxes. I responded that she strongly advocated and voted for a bill that has over 7 trillion in annual federal spending.

10:1 ratio for Boebert's quote
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
When you see the worst of the parties is when you see the echo chamber the most.

When Trump (or someone is his orbit) lies or does something stupid, 40 percent of the board defends it no matter what. 30 percent will ignore or "whatchaboutism" it, and 30 percent will criticize it.

When the left does same thing, 10 percent defend it, 10 percent ignore /whatchaboutism it, and 80 percent criticize it...
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Unless certain people are excluded, at the present time it basically helps one faction.

I'm good with how things are being governed so it just doesn't seem to be an issue at this time, my take.
 
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New York City’s likely next mayor would raise property taxes based on skin color.

Front-runner and democratic socialist Zohran Mamdani said he would implement that proposal if, as polls project, he wins the Nov. 4 election.

Mr. Mamdani, whose agenda calls for free day care, free bus rides, government-run grocery stores and raising taxes on millionaires to pay for it all, said the city’s residential property taxes are inequitable. Homeowners living in neighborhoods populated by minorities pay too much in property taxes, and those living in wealthier, Whiter neighborhoods don’t pay enough, he said.

Mr. Mamdani, 34, said the time has come to “shift the burden” from the city’s outer boroughs to “richer” and “Whiter” neighborhoods.

He aims to end the city’s “unbalanced” property tax system, which caps annual increases at 6%.

“The mayor can fix this by pushing class assessment percentages down for everyone and adjusting rates up, effectively lowering tax payments for homeowners in neighborhoods like Jamaica and Brownsville while raising the amount paid in the most expensive Brooklyn brownstones,” Mr. Mamdani, the Democratic Party nominee for mayor, explains on his campaign website.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/new...ni-pitches-race-based-property-tax-rates-new/

🤣 NYC deserves this man
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
When you see the worst of the parties is when you see the echo chamber the most.

When Trump (or someone is his orbit) lies or does something stupid, 40 percent of the board defends it no matter what. 30 percent will ignore or "whatchaboutism" it, and 30 percent will criticize it.

When the left does same thing, 10 percent defend it, 10 percent ignore /whatchaboutism it, and 80 percent criticize it...
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Part 3 of my theory is that the “left” or “other than right” cohort here is a bit more willing to criticize their political proxies (e.g. vaccine mandates and Afghanistan withdrawal). So, somewhat this.

(Part 2 being that the presence of dissenters creates social incentives and disincentives that actually make this echo chamber effect worse.)
 
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McDad said:
I think our lunches were really good. I only remember HS really well though. Traditional meat and two with a bread. Usually a few options available. Also had a fresh salad bar.
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I can't remember us having the option of a salad bar but many of us used to love the little rectangle pizza. You could buy extras if you had money. We had more drink options.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Part 3 of my theory is that the “left” or “other than right” cohort is a bit more willing to criticize their political proxies (e.g. vaccine mandates and Afghanistan withdrawal). So, somewhat this.

(Part 2 being that the presence of dissenters creates social incentives and disincentives that actually make this echo chamber effect worse.)
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Yeah, you are right. The left diehards are much more likely to ignore, whatchaboutism, or caveat defending their side with a criticism.

That's why its 80-10-10 when Ds do something wrong and

30-30-40 when its the Rs
 
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BreatheUT said:
I can't remember us having the option of a salad bar but many of us used to love the little rectangle pizza. You could buy extras if you had money. We had more drink options.
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We definitely got those in elem and middle. That was our jam.
 
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In this forum I think a number of the responses to criticism of "their side" and echo-chamber are related to the media and their reaction.
When the dems do something wrong the media defends or ignores the issue 90+% of the time.
When the GOP does something wrong, the numbers are the complete opposite.
People react to that response or lack thereof.
 
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