'25 Recruiting Forum: Official TSIO Alabama vs Tennessee Pre-game/Game Thread

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SoilVol said:
Also hilarious this "Cooter Vol" character doesn't trim his beard and has a mullet. Odds he's unfit and wouldn't beat Heupel in conditioning are high imo.
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its just weird Gen Z manosphere stuff that wont die out. he's a tate brothers disciple. roman/greek aesthetics profile pic burner account type guy. FBI should check his hard drive

no real fan would be saying **** like that when phil fulmer won our last title
 
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Happy Tuesday

October 21, 2025: Sort out where you are physically, emotionally, mentally, and spiritually. Do this in order to figure out the next phase of your life and to get a handle on where you should go from here. Quiet your soul, and be pragmatic in your approach to the days ahead. Never forget that God is with you and will lead you if you are willing to follow. Romans 8:13-14 For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.
 
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Adam Sandler said:
They dared us to run the ball. We should have.
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But TN with no time outs, running the ball and not making a TD, the clock ticks to zero and TN comes away with no points....so Bama knew TN would pass the ball so they called a time out and changed their defense. TN should have passed the ball the previous play and saved the time out. With one time out and 9 seconds they could have chose to either run or pass.

TN on that last play could have done as the NFL Eagles do....just push the QB into the endzone
 
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jmacvols1 said:
pre-game hugs.....(probably a post game hug too)


Retired SEC official comments on the head referee hugging Alabama QB Ty Simpson before game against Tennessee​


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At what point does Danny white start playing power games with the sec to address the blatant favoritism and possible game fixing by the refs? Is there even anything he can do about it? Maybe Tennessee fans should mount an insurrection at the sec headquarters. Something has to change with the reffing issues. It’d be comical if it wasn’t so impactful and damaging to the spirit of competition and standard of excellence these players have worked so hard for.
 
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Adam Sandler said:
At what point does Danny white start playing power games with the sec to address the blatant favoritism and possible game fixing by the refs? Is there even anything he can do about it? Maybe Tennessee fans should mount an insurrection at the sec headquarters. Something has to change with the reffing issues. It’d be comical if it wasn’t so impactful and damaging to the spirit of competition and standard of excellence these players have worked so hard for.
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Danny won’t do anything because he doesn’t want to get fined the $
 
#3,590
#3,590
Adam Sandler said:
At what point does Danny white start playing power games with the sec to address the blatant favoritism and possible game fixing by the refs? Is there even anything he can do about it? Maybe Tennessee fans should mount an insurrection at the sec headquarters. Something has to change with the reffing issues. It’d be comical if it wasn’t so impactful and damaging to the spirit of competition and standard of excellence these players have worked so hard for.
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All ADs should get together and do something.

" being an SEC football referee is not typically a full-time job. Most SEC officials work in other professions during the week and treat officiating as a demanding part-time or seasonal role, driven by passion for the sport rather than as their primary income source. They earn per-game fees (ranging from $800 to $3,000 per regular-season game, with higher amounts for bowls and playoffs), which can total $50,000–$100,000 annually depending on assignments, but this doesn't equate to year-round employment." - GROK

A passion for the game or passion for a favorite team?

Make being an SEC official;
-an only income job
-not a graduate of any SEC school
-watch film to grade and fine officials for bad calls/missed calls

Officiating maybe to subjective thereby making penalty calls inconsistent so officiating can never be an exact science.


Grok's take on improving officiating:

Improving officiating in SEC football requires addressing systemic issues, enhancing training, and leveraging technology while balancing costs and feasibility. Based on available data, here are key needs:
  1. Enhanced Training and Professionalization:
    • Full-Time Officials: Transitioning to full-time referees, as in the NFL, could improve consistency. SEC refs currently work part-time, balancing other careers, which limits preparation time. Full-time roles (with salaries estimated at $100,000–$200,000/year) would allow dedicated focus on rule mastery, film study, and physical conditioning. However, this would cost the SEC millions annually for 8–10 crews.
    • Standardized Training Programs: Implement rigorous, ongoing training camps emphasizing rulebook intricacies, situational awareness, and high-pressure decision-making. Current training includes summer clinics and weekly film reviews, but expanding these (e.g., VR simulations) could sharpen skills.
  2. Technology Integration:
    • Expanded Replay Systems: Enhance instant replay with more camera angles and real-time data (e.g., ball-spotting tech or sensor-based first-down markers). The SEC’s 2024 replay system allows centralized review in Birmingham, but delays and missed calls (e.g., targeting) persist, as seen in fan complaints on X about inconsistent penalties.
    • AI and Analytics: Use AI-driven tools to assist refs with real-time rule interpretation or flagging potential errors, reducing human error. This tech exists in prototypes but isn’t yet standard in college football.
  3. Accountability and Transparency:
    • Public Grading System: The SEC grades officials internally (e.g., crew chiefs review calls weekly), but public disclosure of performance metrics could build trust. Fans on Reddit’s r/CFB in 2024 criticized opaque accountability, especially after controversial calls in games like Georgia-Texas.
    • Post-Game Explanations: Require refs or the SEC to explain contentious calls publicly, similar to the NFL’s post-game reports. This could reduce perceptions of bias, a frequent complaint on X.
  4. Recruitment and Retention:
    • Diverse, Skilled Talent Pool: Recruit younger, athletic officials with strong communication skills and train them early. The SEC’s current refs average 10–20 years of experience, but turnover is low, limiting fresh perspectives.
    • Better Incentives: Increase per-game fees ($800–$3,000 currently) or offer benefits to attract top talent, especially if moving to full-time roles.
  5. Rule Simplification:
    • Streamline Complex Rules: Rules like targeting or pass interference are subjective and inconsistently enforced, as seen in 2024 SEC games (e.g., Vanderbilt-South Carolina). Simplifying or clarifying these could reduce errors, though it risks altering game dynamics.
  6. Fan and Media Engagement:
    • Education Campaigns: Use broadcasts or SEC Network to explain rules and ref decisions, reducing fan frustration. X posts often highlight misunderstanding of rules like holding, which fuels outrage.
Challenges and Trade-offs:
  • Cost: Full-time refs and advanced tech require significant investment, potentially raising ticket prices or diverting funds from other programs.
  • Resistance to Change: Conferences and refs may resist full-time models due to tradition or logistical complexity (e.g., scheduling 100+ officials).
  • Subjectivity: Even with tech, calls like pass interference remain subjective, and over-reliance on replays could slow games, frustrating fans.
Evidence from Sources:
  • A 2024 Athletic article noted the SEC’s centralized replay center improved call accuracy but didn’t eliminate errors, citing human limitations.
  • Reddit threads (r/CFB, r/rolltide) and X posts frequently cite missed calls (e.g., targeting in LSU-Alabama 2024) as evidence for full-time refs or better tech.
  • NFL’s full-time model, adopted in 2017, shows improved consistency but still faces criticism, suggesting no perfect fix.
Ultimately, a hybrid approach—better training, selective tech upgrades, and transparent accountability—could balance quality and cost without overhauling the SEC’s structure.
 
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jmacvols1 said:
All ADs should get together and do something.

" being an SEC football referee is not typically a full-time job. Most SEC officials work in other professions during the week and treat officiating as a demanding part-time or seasonal role, driven by passion for the sport rather than as their primary income source. They earn per-game fees (ranging from $800 to $3,000 per regular-season game, with higher amounts for bowls and playoffs), which can total $50,000–$100,000 annually depending on assignments, but this doesn't equate to year-round employment." - GROK

A passion for the game or passion for a favorite team?

Make being an SEC official;
-an only income job
-not a graduate of any SEC school
-watch film to grade and fine officials for bad calls/missed calls

Officiating maybe to subjective thereby making penalty calls inconsistent so officiating can never be an exact science.


Grok's take on improving officiating:

Improving officiating in SEC football requires addressing systemic issues, enhancing training, and leveraging technology while balancing costs and feasibility. Based on available data, here are key needs:
  1. Enhanced Training and Professionalization:
    • Full-Time Officials: Transitioning to full-time referees, as in the NFL, could improve consistency. SEC refs currently work part-time, balancing other careers, which limits preparation time. Full-time roles (with salaries estimated at $100,000–$200,000/year) would allow dedicated focus on rule mastery, film study, and physical conditioning. However, this would cost the SEC millions annually for 8–10 crews.
    • Standardized Training Programs: Implement rigorous, ongoing training camps emphasizing rulebook intricacies, situational awareness, and high-pressure decision-making. Current training includes summer clinics and weekly film reviews, but expanding these (e.g., VR simulations) could sharpen skills.
  2. Technology Integration:
    • Expanded Replay Systems: Enhance instant replay with more camera angles and real-time data (e.g., ball-spotting tech or sensor-based first-down markers). The SEC’s 2024 replay system allows centralized review in Birmingham, but delays and missed calls (e.g., targeting) persist, as seen in fan complaints on X about inconsistent penalties.
    • AI and Analytics: Use AI-driven tools to assist refs with real-time rule interpretation or flagging potential errors, reducing human error. This tech exists in prototypes but isn’t yet standard in college football.
  3. Accountability and Transparency:
    • Public Grading System: The SEC grades officials internally (e.g., crew chiefs review calls weekly), but public disclosure of performance metrics could build trust. Fans on Reddit’s r/CFB in 2024 criticized opaque accountability, especially after controversial calls in games like Georgia-Texas.
    • Post-Game Explanations: Require refs or the SEC to explain contentious calls publicly, similar to the NFL’s post-game reports. This could reduce perceptions of bias, a frequent complaint on X.
  4. Recruitment and Retention:
    • Diverse, Skilled Talent Pool: Recruit younger, athletic officials with strong communication skills and train them early. The SEC’s current refs average 10–20 years of experience, but turnover is low, limiting fresh perspectives.
    • Better Incentives: Increase per-game fees ($800–$3,000 currently) or offer benefits to attract top talent, especially if moving to full-time roles.
  5. Rule Simplification:
    • Streamline Complex Rules: Rules like targeting or pass interference are subjective and inconsistently enforced, as seen in 2024 SEC games (e.g., Vanderbilt-South Carolina). Simplifying or clarifying these could reduce errors, though it risks altering game dynamics.
  6. Fan and Media Engagement:
    • Education Campaigns: Use broadcasts or SEC Network to explain rules and ref decisions, reducing fan frustration. X posts often highlight misunderstanding of rules like holding, which fuels outrage.
Challenges and Trade-offs:
  • Cost: Full-time refs and advanced tech require significant investment, potentially raising ticket prices or diverting funds from other programs.
  • Resistance to Change: Conferences and refs may resist full-time models due to tradition or logistical complexity (e.g., scheduling 100+ officials).
  • Subjectivity: Even with tech, calls like pass interference remain subjective, and over-reliance on replays could slow games, frustrating fans.
Evidence from Sources:
  • A 2024 Athletic article noted the SEC’s centralized replay center improved call accuracy but didn’t eliminate errors, citing human limitations.
  • Reddit threads (r/CFB, r/rolltide) and X posts frequently cite missed calls (e.g., targeting in LSU-Alabama 2024) as evidence for full-time refs or better tech.
  • NFL’s full-time model, adopted in 2017, shows improved consistency but still faces criticism, suggesting no perfect fix.
Ultimately, a hybrid approach—better training, selective tech upgrades, and transparent accountability—could balance quality and cost without overhauling the SEC’s structure.
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NFL officials are not full time except a few instructors. Training is not the issue, neither is preparation. These guys spend 15+ hours a week during game week. And they've got thousands of hours of experience.

The problem is lack of accountability. The SEC is a good Ole boy network. One you're in, you can suck and keep your job because you got the job from being friends with someone. Fix that, and none of that other stuff would be needed.
 
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Orange. said:
Yes, absolutely.

Heupel’s teams have played 3 times at Bama and the Birmingham officials have ruled that Bama committed 0 holding penalties in 12 quarters of play.
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And we wonder why our DL all of a sudden can’t get to the QB when we play there, and their OL all become All-Americans.
 
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jmacvols1 said:
Bama was expecting a pass.....and got the pic6

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Ultimately the other team has to make a play. I think morans have talked about this at noseeyum. Ifs and buts... Halzle made a bad call. It happens. Learn from it.

Roll Joey out, or throw to Brazzers back side shoulder, if its there great. If not, take the points.
 
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Orange. said:
Yes, absolutely.

Heupel’s teams have played 3 times at Bama and the Birmingham officials have ruled that Bama committed 0 holding penalties in 12 quarters of play.
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I’m so freaking done with nothing being done about this. I don’t give a s*** if it gets us a 500k fine. We would pay up if it meant calling out this cheating a** conference and getting some change. Unreal
 
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