Napier has been fired

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This mod on the Gators 247 site is pushing hard for Billy Gonzales as a legit candidate to be made permanent. None of these Gator fans are buying it, but it's almost like he's setting them up for this he's pushing so hard.

"If Florida beats Georgia, Tennessee and beats Lane at Ole Miss you don't think things would get even the least bit interesting?"

"It would also be an Ed Orgeron or Dabo Swinney type move, and those decisions resulted in championships."

I don't see Florida winning all those games anyway, but what in the world?
 
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RandomUTfan said:
This mod on the Gators 247 site is pushing hard for Billy Gonzales as a legit candidate to be made permanent. None of these Gator fans are buying it, but it's almost like he's setting them up for this he's pushing so hard.

"If Florida beats Georgia, Tennessee and beats Lane at Ole Miss you don't think things would get even the least bit interesting?"

"It would also be an Ed Orgeron or Dabo Swinney type move, and those decisions resulted in championships."

I don't see Florida winning all those games anyway, but what in the world?
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There are maybe and I mean maybe a handful of teams currently that could fire their HC and pull of wins against UGA, UT, and Ole Miss. It is highly unlikely they even win one of them.
 
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All I know is Finebaum has chimed in his Kiffen tongue job. Dang mouse clicker. I never read his crap, but I had to go and do it.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
I'd totally be shocked if Kiffin takes that job.

His daughter kept him from taking the Auburn job as she just enrolled in Oxford.

Knox is apparently going to be a recruit in the 27 class at QB.

I don't see Kiffin uprooting one of his kids if they are comfortable where they are at.

Of course as long as Ole Miss wins out, Lane goes to the playoff and the whole "can't win at Ole Miss" narrative goes away for another year.

Because the one thing is true, he won't ever be able to recruit big time defenses at Ole Miss. That has been the case for the past 15 years outside of one year with Freeze paying players.
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I think he would take the LSU gig should it come available (increasingly likely every week it seems). And his daughter is already dating one of the players, so I don't think she would mind so much.

I don't think there is any chance he takes the UF job.
 
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Carp said:
I think he would take the LSU gig should it come available (increasingly likely every week it seems). And his daughter is already dating one of the players, so I don't think she would mind so much.

I don't think there is any chance he takes the UF job.
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So I personally don't think he would leave Ole Miss unless Bama opened up. I do think LSU could be the wild card because it would be the easiest job to get talent.
 
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Sometimes reading the Gator board gives me splitting headaches.

"He mentions that Layla's wife is John Reaves. He doesn't mention that she grew up in Gainesville and is a UF alum."
 
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I'm going to add something here and y'all can do with it what you like.

Florida is the better job. All of this talk about new world and everything. Stop. I can prove Florida is a better job.

Let's pretend Kiffin had a press conference tomorrow and announced he's retiring for whatever reason. Giving up the coaching profession forever. So, now, add Ole Miss to the list of open jobs along with Penn State, Florida, etc. Now, with a straight face, you tell me the pecking order that Ole Miss falls in with the others. And we haven't even added two other potential schools in Florida State and Auburn. Be honest now. Where does Ole Miss rank among head coaching candidates that don't have any personal ties to any of the available jobs?

This is only a decision because he has developed ties, planted roots, established himself there, etc. If Ole Miss was not his current position and both jobs were offered to him, this isn't even a discussion.

And all of that matters by the way. It's why he may indeed stay. We'll see
 
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99gator said:
I'm going to add something here and y'all can do with it what you like.

Florida is the better job. All of this talk about new world and everything. Stop. I can prove Florida is a better job.

Let's pretend Kiffin had a press conference tomorrow and announced he's retiring for whatever reason. Giving up the coaching profession forever. So, now, add Ole Miss to the list of open jobs along with Penn State, Florida, etc. Now, with a straight face, you tell me the pecking order that Ole Miss falls in with the others. And we haven't even added two other potential schools in Florida State and Auburn. Be honest now. Where does Ole Miss rank among head coaching candidates that don't have any personal ties to any of the available jobs?

This is only a decision because he has developed ties, planted roots, established himself there, etc. If Ole Miss was not his current position and both jobs were offered to him, this isn't even a discussion.

And all of that matters by the way. It's why he may indeed stay. We'll see
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It's funny that you are so hell-bent on convincing strangers on the internet that Florida is a better job than Ole Miss. I think it probably stems from a deep-seated insecurity of some type. It's 2025 and if Florida was a better job than Ole Miss, then they would have hired a better coach than Billy Napier. And people wouldn't be talking about how Florida's top 5 is completely unrealistic.

Lane Kiffin made that a better job, but now that the investment is there, they are willing to pay what it costs to keep it going. Florida can't hire Ole Miss' coach anymore.
 
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99gator said:
this is another thing that you all should be familiar with. The fan base being blamed for this **** is maddening.

It wasn’t the fans fault things went downhill with Fulmer, Kiffin left, Dooley was a failure, Jones was a failure, Pruitt was a failure.

They all deserved to be fired.

all these florida coaches deserved to be fired.

this narrative is bull.
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It’s the convenient scape goat for actual decision makers to avoid accountability. Personally, I think Kiffin would be an absolute moron to turn down a UF offer. Sky is (unfortunately) the limit at UF. Flagship school in the most or second most talented state in the country for football. Ole Miss is a second rate SEC program and always will be.
 
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99gator said:
I'm going to add something here and y'all can do with it what you like.

Florida is the better job. All of this talk about new world and everything. Stop. I can prove Florida is a better job.

Let's pretend Kiffin had a press conference tomorrow and announced he's retiring for whatever reason. Giving up the coaching profession forever. So, now, add Ole Miss to the list of open jobs along with Penn State, Florida, etc. Now, with a straight face, you tell me the pecking order that Ole Miss falls in with the others. And we haven't even added two other potential schools in Florida State and Auburn. Be honest now. Where does Ole Miss rank among head coaching candidates that don't have any personal ties to any of the available jobs?

This is only a decision because he has developed ties, planted roots, established himself there, etc. If Ole Miss was not his current position and both jobs were offered to him, this isn't even a discussion.

And all of that matters by the way. It's why he may indeed stay. We'll see
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Yeah, I agree with you. I believe that UF has been considered to have a top football program since the days of the Ole Ball Sack, I mean Coach!😂 Just kidding, I respect Spurrier, it’s just that I can’t stand him. You understand.

Seriously though, I believe the above. UF is the more prestigious job IMHO. I completely agree with you.

Yet, if Ole Miss will compete financially, it’s the more secure job. Very unlikely they will ever fire him. At UF, you better be getting better every year or already be competing for Titles. Plus, as you stated, he has built a life and seems comfortable at OM. Who knows how this will go?
 
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DirtyDawg said:
Yeah, I agree with you. I believe that UF has been considered to have a top football program since the days of the Ole Ball Sack, I mean Coach!😂 Just kidding, I respect Spurrier, it’s just that I can’t stand him. You understand.

Seriously though, I believe the above. UF is the more prestigious job IMHO. I completely agree with you.

Yet, if Ole Miss will compete financially, it’s the more secure job. Very unlikely they will ever fire him. At UF, you better be getting better every year or already be competing for Titles. Plus, as you stated, he has built a life and seems comfortable at OM. Who knows how this will go?
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Ego might drive the bus. What football coach doesn’t want to be the guy that returned the Gators to top flight status?
 
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99gator said:
I'm going to add something here and y'all can do with it what you like.

Florida is the better job. All of this talk about new world and everything. Stop. I can prove Florida is a better job.

Let's pretend Kiffin had a press conference tomorrow and announced he's retiring for whatever reason. Giving up the coaching profession forever. So, now, add Ole Miss to the list of open jobs along with Penn State, Florida, etc. Now, with a straight face, you tell me the pecking order that Ole Miss falls in with the others. And we haven't even added two other potential schools in Florida State and Auburn. Be honest now. Where does Ole Miss rank among head coaching candidates that don't have any personal ties to any of the available jobs?

This is only a decision because he has developed ties, planted roots, established himself there, etc. If Ole Miss was not his current position and both jobs were offered to him, this isn't even a discussion.

And all of that matters by the way. It's why he may indeed stay. We'll see
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The problem is that magical land doesn't exist. Kiffin knows what he has at OM. There isn't any question about what he has to work with at OM , because he already knows. The situation at OM is currently much better than he would have at UF, at least immediately anyways. In all likelihood, UF isn't bouncing out of this rut in a season. Maybe not even 2 seasons. And their schedule will remain one of the toughest in the nation.

OM on the other hand is positioned well to remain a top tier SEC team for the forseable future, as long as they keep pouring the sort of money they have been into in the program.

Anyways, it's a moot point if OM makes the playoffs. UF isn't going to waste a recruiting class and their recruiting class will continue to fall apart the closer they get to signing day without a coach. That will want a coach in place by the end of December.
 
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There are some delusional fan bases in the country and there's Florida Gator fans. The level of entitlement of those folks is unchartable. Absolutely no one wanted to hire Billy Napier away from Florida. Every good coach they ever had left on their own. Basketball too. I'm sure Golden will bounce eventually.

'Not something you see from a fanbase of a top 5 program. Goes to show how full of bs a lot of Ole Miss fans on that board are. They don’t even believe what they’re saying. For instance if the roles were reversed we wouldn’t not be worried in the slightest our head coach would be leaving for ole Miss and we’re a stepping stone program according to them.'

"wouldn't not"

They think they are the premier job open. I bet they are further down the list than almost anyone thinks.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Ego might drive the bus. What football coach doesn’t want to be the guy that returned the Gators to top flight status?
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With NIL evening the field , I would say "What coach wouldn't want to resurrect Ole Miss to what they were under Johnny Vaught, and have way less pressure and bs doing it?" Like ourselves , the "good ole days" are fading from the minds of cfb fans by the year and soon nobody's gonna give 2 ***** what Spurrier and UM did. The UF job just isn't what it was and will not have the same lasting prestige Miami has benefitted from. Welcome to the boneyard.
 
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99gator said:
I'm going to add something here and y'all can do with it what you like.

Florida is the better job. All of this talk about new world and everything. Stop. I can prove Florida is a better job.

Let's pretend Kiffin had a press conference tomorrow and announced he's retiring for whatever reason. Giving up the coaching profession forever. So, now, add Ole Miss to the list of open jobs along with Penn State, Florida, etc. Now, with a straight face, you tell me the pecking order that Ole Miss falls in with the others. And we haven't even added two other potential schools in Florida State and Auburn. Be honest now. Where does Ole Miss rank among head coaching candidates that don't have any personal ties to any of the available jobs?

This is only a decision because he has developed ties, planted roots, established himself there, etc. If Ole Miss was not his current position and both jobs were offered to him, this isn't even a discussion.

And all of that matters by the way. It's why he may indeed stay. We'll see
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that doesn't prove anything other than you can create a hypothetical. it also ignores the main point, Kiffin is at Ole Miss, and isn't retiring to reset Ole Miss down to what they were. for then real life Kiffin to compare reality UF to theoretical Ole Miss. its more a comparison of real Ole Miss, vs theoretical UF.

The reality of the situation, where Kiffin chooses to coach next year, isn't based on which school is actually better, more prestigious, or whatever, in the long run based on historical arguments. The reality is that Kiffin has a good situation at Ole Miss, UF has to convince him that what he can do at UF will be better than the current situation he is in, AND that the pay is worth the hassle. in the reality of NIL, no, UF is not the better school. In reality Kiffin has been able to do better than UF has.

Florida is the better football school than Indiana, and reality says you aren't getting Cignetti either.

not saying you can't throw enough zeros behind your offer to get Kiffin, just saying you don't have the winning argument you think.
 
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Wezcoast said:
With NIL evening the field , I would say "What coach wouldn't want to resurrect Ole Miss to what they were under Johnny Vaught, and have way less pressure and bs doing it?" Like ourselves , the "good ole days" are fading from the minds of cfb fans by the year and soon nobody's gonna give 2 ***** what Spurrier and UM did. The UF job just isn't what it was and will not have the same lasting prestige Miami has benefitted from. Welcome to the boneyard.
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UF really only had a 2 decade run. And part of that run was the Ron Zook era. Before Spurrier, they were mostly irrelevant nationally. Sort of like OM before Kiffin arrived.
 
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DaddyChad said:
The potential jobs that could come open may be more an obstacle for Florida than anything else.
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Any team with a good coach is gonna have the butthole pucker up if the LSU job comes available.

The only safe teams are Ohio State, Indiana (since Cignetti already signed), UGA, Bama, and probably Miami since Cristobal is at his alma mater.
 
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