Why won‘t Heupel take sole responsibility for Saturday

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Heupel can't even groom himself or choose a shirt that didn't come off the floor. You expect him to demonstrate leadership?

Only half kidding. Heupel is happy to be making 9M a year and he is gonna milk that as long as he can. And he likely has 2-3 years before his seat gets hot.

He isn't gonna take personal responsibility for anything. Heck, he doesn't even hold his coaches accountable.

Late stage Fulmerism is where we are heading. Stand by for endless players who "fail to develop"

Yeah, I'm bitter today. And I have a right to be.

::: Cue "Coach-is-Always-Right" crowd to tell me to find another team :::
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Yes it was a team loss; but I am very disappointed that Heupel keeps saying „we“ and „us“ instead on „I“ and „me“.
Great leaders share the praise but accept the blame.
I would have so much more respect for Heupel if he just came out and said „I screwed up“.
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I don’t think he sees himself screwing up.
Not sure he recognizes his flaws and is probably the reason we see the same mistakes every year.
 
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VolInNW said:
Heupel can't even groom himself or choose a shirt that didn't come off the floor. You expect him to demonstrate leadership?

Only half kidding. Heupel is happy to be making 9M a year and he is gonna milk that as long as he can. And he likely has 2-3 years before his seat gets hot.

He isn't gonna take personal responsibility for anything. Heck, he doesn't even hold his coaches accountable.

Late stage Fulmerism is where we are heading. Stand by for endless players who "fail to develop"

Yeah, I'm bitter today. And I have a right to be.

::: Cue "Coach-is-Always-Right" crowd to tell me to find another team :::
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What is the old saying, when students fail, don’t ask why they failed; but why didn’t the teacher teach?
 
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Heupel will probably never throw a player under the bus publicly. While the play call on the pick 6 was bizarre if executed well we score. It was a bad throw from a QB who was clearly not at his best after getting hammered on 2 different plays. He just didn't have the zip on the throw. It was a dumb play call in that situation which would have required perfect execution.
That being said, had they gone 4 wide and just run a QB draw he probably walks in untouched.
 
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superdave1984 said:
Heupel will probably never throw a player under the bus publicly. While the play call on the pick 6 was bizarre if executed well we score. It was a bad throw from a QB who was clearly not at his best after getting hammered on 2 different plays. He just didn't have the zip on the throw. It was a dumb play call in that situation which would have required perfect execution.
That being said, had they gone 4 wide and just run a QB draw he probably walks in untouched.
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You don’t think Bama would have put two backers in the A gap for that? The call honestly wasn’t terrible and a good throw probably scores. We mismanaged the clock but people are really losing their minds over this and it’s just not logical
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Yes it was a team loss; but I am very disappointed that Heupel keeps saying „we“ and „us“ instead on „I“ and „me“.
Great leaders share the praise but accept the blame.
I would have so much more respect for Heupel if he just came out and said „I screwed up“.
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I guess Pat Summit didn't live up to your standards of great leaders then as she frequently used team references in post game comments. Pretty successful nonetheless
 
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Surely this thread is Satire.

The loss was not SOLELY his fault. Should he fall on a sword for the bad play call? Yes/No 5th year Senior QB should have known to throw that ball away. Should Heup take responsibility for his inept staff? Absolutely

But the players have to do their part as well. As mad as the pick 6 made me, it didn’t compare to how mad I got with the beyond poor effort Redman made on Bamas last TD. Did he expect the runner to trip over him? He would never play another down for that lack of effort if I was coach. And he’s not the only one. I know we have to do what we can with what we got, but if you don’t show effort, I bet one of those kids on the sidelines would give their all.
 
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lukeneyland said:
You don’t think Bama would have put two backers in the A gap for that? The call honestly wasn’t terrible and a good throw probably scores. We mismanaged the clock but people are really losing their minds over this and it’s just not logical
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On top of it, JA was hurt. He didn’t need to run it.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Yes it was a team loss; but I am very disappointed that Heupel keeps saying „we“ and „us“ instead on „I“ and „me“.
Great leaders share the praise but accept the blame.
I would have so much more respect for Heupel if he just came out and said „I screwed up“.
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Because it wasn’t all his fault. The old saying it all falls back to coaching doesn’t work anymore. These guys are now getting paid. Did Heupel Make the defense miss tackles and get burned in the secondary? Did Heupel make the WRs drop passes? Commit false starts? Get an unsportsmanlike penalty? Get DPI penalty?

No.
 
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lukeneyland said:
You don’t think Bama would have put two backers in the A gap for that? The call honestly wasn’t terrible and a good throw probably scores. We mismanaged the clock but people are really losing their minds over this and it’s just not logical
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Agree If the throw comes out on time it’s 6 points. And we leave 4-5 seconds on the clock. Nothing wrong with the play or time management
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Yes it was a team loss; but I am very disappointed that Heupel keeps saying „we“ and „us“ instead on „I“ and „me“.
Great leaders share the praise but accept the blame.
I would have so much more respect for Heupel if he just came out and said „I screwed up“.
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That's just dumb, what we saw against Alabama were the limitations in Joey's abilities. He did not play well and had two really poor errors in judgement on the safety and interception. He isn't and shouldn't comment on those two plays. Heupel's biggest flaw is holding onto a defensive staff that just isn't very good at creating effective defensive schemes.
 
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landscapingvol said:
That's just dumb, what we saw against Alabama were the limitations in Joey's abilities. He did not play well and had two really poor errors in judgement on the safety and interception. He isn't and shouldn't comment on those two plays. Heupel's biggest flaw is holding onto a defensive staff that just isn't very good at creating effective defensive schemes.
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Joey didn’t totally mismanage the clock and put himself in such a dangerous position with only 9 seconds left in which everyone in the United Staes knew was going to be a pass play
And like I said, whatever the facts of the case; good leaders know the buck stops at their feet
 
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VolInNW said:
Heupel can't even groom himself or choose a shirt that didn't come off the floor. You expect him to demonstrate leadership?

Only half kidding. Heupel is happy to be making 9M a year and he is gonna milk that as long as he can. And he likely has 2-3 years before his seat gets hot.

He isn't gonna take personal responsibility for anything. Heck, he doesn't even hold his coaches accountable.

Late stage Fulmerism is where we are heading. Stand by for endless players who "fail to develop"

Yeah, I'm bitter today. And I have a right to be.

::: Cue "Coach-is-Always-Right" crowd to tell me to find another team :::
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Incorrect. Heupel will be fired in two weeks................
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Yes it was a team loss; but I am very disappointed that Heupel keeps saying „we“ and „us“ instead on „I“ and „me“.
Great leaders share the praise but accept the blame.
I would have so much more respect for Heupel if he just came out and said „I screwed up“.
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SOLE responsibility OP? So you are calling Heupel a FLOUNDER? Big words, my guy.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Yes it was a team loss; but I am very disappointed that Heupel keeps saying „we“ and „us“ instead on „I“ and „me“.
Great leaders share the praise but accept the blame.
I would have so much more respect for Heupel if he just came out and said „I screwed up“.
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Because it’s on the other coaches as well. That’s how I take it. Players make mistakes too. They are all a team. So “we” is ok with me
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Yes it was a team loss; but I am very disappointed that Heupel keeps saying „we“ and „us“ instead on „I“ and „me“.
Great leaders share the praise but accept the blame.
I would have so much more respect for Heupel if he just came out and said „I screwed up“.
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I listened to the press conference snippets this am on wnml.

He took blame as most HCs do.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Yes it was a team loss; but I am very disappointed that Heupel keeps saying „we“ and „us“ instead on „I“ and „me“.
Great leaders share the praise but accept the blame.
I would have so much more respect for Heupel if he just came out and said „I screwed up“.
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Coaches coach and players play. It was a team loss unless Heupel wasn’t there
 
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