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Stoerner Fumbles said:
Nothing too exciting, but confirmation of 10-11 scrimmage observations. We rotated lots of sets. Played two abbreviated halves. JG dominated, as others noted, but part of that was him playing in most of the lineups, and their defense not being too intense in that setting. He drove well and shot well. We looked pretty loose with assignments on defense, but rebounded extremely well on defensive end. Ament and Estrella were limited in minutes but both played well. Ament is a little behind the curve on defense, but has added muscle and weight, and wasn’t afraid to mix it up. His length and lift mean he’s a shooting mismatch on just about anyone. Lots of chemistry coming out of JG and the bigs passing well. Estrella really sees the court and kicks out and feeds others a lot. Wing play remains out of sync with both Burg and Amari playing catch up at both ends. Coaches are protective of JP still, but all think he won’t be limited in season at all. Echoing my sentiments from last year’s preseason, Estrella can be a great addition. He has the finesse and passing game we’ve been missing from our 4/5. He has a rare skill set with his abilities at both ends. Gillespie is ALL SEC caliber, and a real catalyst. The Walter Clayton analogy is apt and interestingly we look a lot like that team top to bottom. Not many teams will be able to handle twelve rounds with our bigs. We are going to really wear teams down underneath. One big negative that lingers from past years, we did not handle quick perimeter passing and defending the three on the wings. There were several runs of outside shooting that we didn’t get to in time. Overall it sounded like an early scrimmage should with mistakes and promise.
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OK, yeah, I have had it in my head that 24-25 Florida is this team's ceiling if everything gels and people are who we think they are. Glad others are saying it. Still unlikely, but you can see it if you squint.
 
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walkenvol said:
Does ESPN pay for the content maybe?
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I'm just asking about why, as a school, you choose to televise one of them and not the other, but then show a series of highlights like that on X.

Tennessee v. Ohio State matters to a lot of people. Maybe it was tOSU that didn't want it televised for some reason and it was part of the agreement.
 
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#26,013
cncchris33 said:
I'm just asking about why, as a school, you choose to televise one of them and not the other, but then show a series of highlights like that on X.

Tennessee v. Ohio State matters to a lot of people. Maybe it was tOSU that didn't want it televised for some reason and it was part of the agreement.
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I know the OSU game was announced publicly on October 6 - could’ve been a later planned thing that logistically worked for both teams to fit, but they didn’t have time to get all the infrastructure setup for a broadcast. I noticed it was way played in Pratt too, which definitely supports them wanting to keep it lowkey and under wraps, for whatever reason.
 
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#26,014
cncchris33 said:
I'm just asking about why, as a school, you choose to televise one of them and not the other, but then show a series of highlights like that on X.

Tennessee v. Ohio State matters to a lot of people. Maybe it was tOSU that didn't want it televised for some reason and it was part of the agreement.
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I agree with your point. It doesn't make sense, given the facts available to us atm.
 
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These closed door ones, non tv, typically aren’t like a real game…they’ll do multiple quarters or halves, sometimes reset fouls, some situational type stuff etc. My assumption is that most broadcasts don’t want to probably pick up something that isn’t “a real game” and that both school are just fine with that as well.
 
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#26,016
Stoerner Fumbles said:
Nothing too exciting, but confirmation of 10-11 scrimmage observations. We rotated lots of sets. Played two abbreviated halves. JG dominated, as others noted, but part of that was him playing in most of the lineups, and their defense not being too intense in that setting. He drove well and shot well. We looked pretty loose with assignments on defense, but rebounded extremely well on defensive end. Ament and Estrella were limited in minutes but both played well. Ament is a little behind the curve on defense, but has added muscle and weight, and wasn’t afraid to mix it up. His length and lift mean he’s a shooting mismatch on just about anyone. Lots of chemistry coming out of JG and the bigs passing well. Estrella really sees the court and kicks out and feeds others a lot. Wing play remains out of sync with both Burg and Amari playing catch up at both ends. Coaches are protective of JP still, but all think he won’t be limited in season at all. Echoing my sentiments from last year’s preseason, Estrella can be a great addition. He has the finesse and passing game we’ve been missing from our 4/5. He has a rare skill set with his abilities at both ends. Gillespie is ALL SEC caliber, and a real catalyst. The Walter Clayton analogy is apt and interestingly we look a lot like that team top to bottom. Not many teams will be able to handle twelve rounds with our bigs. We are going to really wear teams down underneath. One big negative that lingers from past years, we did not handle quick perimeter passing and defending the three on the wings. There were several runs of outside shooting that we didn’t get to in time. Overall it sounded like an early scrimmage should with mistakes and promise.
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Thanks for the report.
 
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Lots of SEC previews out this week. Eye on CBB and 3MW have already dropped. Will Warren and Jim Root’s Stats Pod should be dropping the SEC preview tomorrow.
 
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#26,018
bleedingTNorange said:
These closed door ones, non tv, typically aren’t like a real game…they’ll do multiple quarters or halves, sometimes reset fouls, some situational type stuff etc. My assumption is that most broadcasts don’t want to probably pick up something that isn’t “a real game” and that both school are just fine with that as well.
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That's a fair point. It would mostly be for fan interest. I think hosting it on the Tennessee Basketball YouTube would be beneficial for fans, but maybe there is stuff either/both staffs don't want shown in that environment.
 
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#26,019
cncchris33 said:
I'm just asking about why, as a school, you choose to televise one of them and not the other, but then show a series of highlights like that on X.

Tennessee v. Ohio State matters to a lot of people. Maybe it was tOSU that didn't want it televised for some reason and it was part of the agreement.
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What if, and Chris, I know this might sound like a revolutionary idea...what if they played in like mid-November...in a big arena...and like some company paid money for people to see it...and even more radical...the game actually counts!
 
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zjcvols said:
What if, and Chris, I know this might sound like a revolutionary idea...what if they played in like mid-November...in a big arena...and like some company paid money for people to see it...and even more radical...the game actually counts!
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Do you mean like the Players Era tournament we’ll be playing in? Or more referencing the Illinois game in Nashville? Or Louisville at home? Or Syracuse on the road?
 
#26,021
#26,021
zjcvols said:
What if, and Chris, I know this might sound like a revolutionary idea...what if they played in like mid-November...in a big arena...and like some company paid money for people to see it...and even more radical...the game actually counts!
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I would be totally on board with that if it were a home game. Less so if it were another neutral site game that replaced a home game. It is kind of a shame that we get these kinds of teams to play us for a nothing scrimmage, but we can't watch it, but if they arent going to play it like an actual game, I can understand the networks being hesitant to carry it.
 
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I don't remember when televised and/or high major on high major conference exhibitions became regular occurrences.

The first I remembered off the top of my head is tennessee vs clemson in 2017, so I googled that game. Utsports.com put out this announcement:

"The NCAA approved a waiver enabling Clemson to host a men's basketball charity exhibition game against Tennessee, with net proceeds going toward hurricane relief efforts in Texas and Florida. Admission is free, although donations to the Salvation Army's continued hurricane relief efforts in Texas and Florida are encouraged."

I'm sure the rules have changed since then, but for some reason I had it in my head that you could only do one exhibition per year that was public and it had to be with proceeds donated to a non-profit/relief fund. I might be totally wrong about that given the marketing behind this duke game, but I'm curious if anyone knows the *actual* rules around exhibitions
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Do you mean like the Players Era tournament we’ll be playing in? Or more referencing the Illinois game in Nashville? Or Louisville at home? Or Syracuse on the road?
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I'm saying I think it's ridiculous to have scrimmages schedules against two big-time college programs, one being "closed door" and the other being televised when these should be big-time regular season games broadcasted.

Our first five games of the year being Mercer, Northern Kentucky, North Florida, Rice & Tennessee State sucks for the fans.

And this not just a White/Barnes/Tennessee problem
 
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#26,024
zjcvols said:
I'm saying I think it's ridiculous to have scrimmages schedules against two big-time college programs, one being "closed door" and the other being televised when these should be big-time regular season games broadcasted.

Our first five games of the year being Mercer, Northern Kentucky, North Florida, Rice & Tennessee State sucks for the fans.

And this not just a White/Barnes/Tennessee problem
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Again, those closed door ones often aren’t played like a real game, it would be more comparable to when NFL does preseason camp and they go to another teams site for a week and do some situation stuff and 11-11 prior to playing the actual preseason game that’s televised, that week of scrimmage work isn’t televised anywhere. Our scrimmage that is going to be “like a game” against Duke is going to be televised.
 
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