Jay Graham Arrested

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Rickyvol77 said:
While that is normally true, you do realize that women are trafficked everywhere as strippers, escorts, prostitutes, and yes minors are as well
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I have been following that closely. I would be less cynical over this particular story if I saw trafficking being addressed on a large scale.

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It seems to me that with all the cameras and satellites monitoring every inch of the country, this number should be inconceivable. I don’t know why a cop has to act like a child prostitute when apparently it’s everywhere across the globe. That’s where my outrage over this sting operation lies.. Who did it save?

SubVet676 said:
I know an ICAC Investigator, and he told me that there are more pedophiles and sex predators on the Internet than you can count… and that some of them are in very prominent positions.
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You beat me to where I was going.
 
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adam.vol said:
I have been following that closely. I would be less cynical over this particular story if I saw trafficking being addressed on a large scale.

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It seems to me that with all the cameras and satellites monitoring every inch of the country, this number should be inconceivable. I don’t know why a cop has to act like a child prostitute when apparently it’s everywhere across the globe. That’s where my outrage over this sting operation lies.


You beat me to where I was going.
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1) You don't think child trafficking is being addressed in the US? There are whole divisions of LE, city, state and federally working together to address it. THIS is addressing it. These stings sometimes get the predators, sometimes rescues actual minors, and sometimes get the local pimps and traffickers.

2) You believe that cameras and satellites monitor the entire US? Are you 12 years old or watch too many movies?

3) Pro tip, if you go out seeking underage teens and other children for sex, again it doesn't matter if it's a cop, or citizen vigilante or an actual child, you are the criminal. To be "outraged" over a criminal sting investigation is a little weird honestly.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
1) You don't think child trafficking is being addressed in the US? There are whole divisions of LE, city, state and federally working together to address it. THIS is addressing it. These stings sometimes get the predators, sometimes rescues actual minors, and sometimes get the local pimps and traffickers.

2) You believe that cameras and satellites monitor the entire US? Are you 12 years old or watch too many movies?

3) Pro tip, if you go out seeking underage teens and other children for sex, again it doesn't matter if it's a cop, or citizen vigilante or an actual child, you are the criminal. To be "outraged" over a criminal sting investigation is a little weird honestly.
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1. Our current president ran on a promise of exposing the clients of a child trafficking network and then began gaslighting anyone who had the nerve to question what was being done about it, once he got into office.

2. You are in denial that there are cameras monitoring interstates, intersections, homes, and businesses? Or what exactly?

3. You being weirded out that I’m not satisfied with how little is being done, while offering pro tips.. If you’re going to go out of your way to make this about someone on a forum, we may as well make it about you too.
 
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adam.vol said:
1. Our current president ran on a promise of exposing the clients of a child trafficking network and then began gaslighting anyone who had the nerve to question what was being done about it, once he got into office.

2. You are in denial that there are cameras monitoring interstates, intersections, homes, and businesses? Or what exactly?

3. You being weirded out that I’m not satisfied with how little is being done, while offering pro tips.. If you’re going to go out of your way to make this about someone on a forum, we may as well make it about you too.
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1) Politics aside, child trafficking is addressed every day in every way by LE, there will always be trafficking just like there will always be gun or drug trafficking...so your take of "nothing is being done" is silly
2) Again, your idea of what government surveillance looks like or is a capable of 24/7 is the idea of movies, do you really believe there are LEOs just sitting in a booth somewhere watching every security or traffic camera? or that even 20% of America is covered by security cameras?
3) I am weirded out by how in depth you are excusing a child sex offense because you think the police were in the wrong
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
While that is normally true, you do realize that women are trafficked everywhere as strippers, escorts, prostitutes, and yes minors are as well
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I guess it all depends on how liberal you want to use the word “trafficked”. I don’t think it fits the bill for many of these ladies. I knew a girl who worked as a traveling nurse making great money only about half of the year. The other half she said she would fly to Vegas 3 days a month and make more stripping those 3 days than she could make as a travel nurse. Claims she made well near 200K doing this and I believe her.

Nothing about that story screams “trafficked” to me. Truthfully she was just taking advantage of men idiotic enough to throw thousands at her with her clothes off.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
1) Politics aside, child trafficking is addressed every day in every way by LE, there will always be trafficking just like there will always be gun or drug trafficking...so your take of "nothing is being done" is silly
2) Again, your idea of what government surveillance looks like or is a capable of 24/7 is the idea of movies, do you really believe there are LEOs just sitting in a booth somewhere watching every security or traffic camera? or that even 20% of America is covered by security cameras?
3) I am weirded out by how in depth you are excusing a child sex offense because you think the police were in the wrong
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1. There is no need to put politics aside. This would not be so widespread and out of control if there weren’t people obstructing justice. Very well the same people signing off on sting operations as opposed to investigating existing crime.

2. You’ve seriously never heard of a recording?

3. Surely there is enough crime in the world that people like you don’t need to create new crimes to show that you’re solving a problem. I’m more alarmed that your sense of justice is coercion and deceit.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Just because some third world gutter religions allow it doesn't make it right.
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This happened all across the globe in pretty much every culture until the last couple hundred years. This is illegal behavior in 2025 and we outlaw it for good reason as a society. He deserves to be prosecuted, but this is not pedophilia. Good lord some of you are so over the top with this it's absurd.
 
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Pride85 said:
This was a really bad time for this topic to be brought up for me. I already have a trigger when the topics of various illegal drugs should be made legal. I have family members that have had their lives destroyed because they thought smoking some weed was safe. When it comes to this topic of sexual predators being taken off the streets, I have very raw emotions. It is coming up on the one year anniversary of something that permanently changed my family. On October 21st last year, my 15 month old great grandson was brutally raped and beaten to death by one. So don't ever try to defend anyone who seeks to take advantage of a young one and not expect a quick response from this old man.
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The monster that did this should be tortured repeatedly and then die a slow death. No need to get police involved. The Family is justified in this action. But what happened to the monster?
 
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Pride85 said:
You cannot go by "fully developed". In times passed, a child was considered available when she started menstruation. It did not matter to the people making those rules the effect of that had on the mental state. In other countries it is still considered that way. Why do you think there is such a market human trafficking for the eplicit purpose of the sexual exploitation of minors? If you go fully on "fully developed", you would be very foolish. I can guarantee you would be wrong. You would have probably tried to pursue my 12 year old daughter, who had the physical development that made her look like a twenty year old. Then I would have needed to commit a felony myself to prevent it. No wonder this world is in the shape it is in. Even without my OCPD, I know this is wrong. May GOD help all of you. 🤢🤮
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Help me? Screw you. I’m not saying this isn’t wrong. I’m a father and a husband to a wife who was sexually assaulted.
 
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In 1995 Jay Graham had 1438 yds and 12 TDs.

Definitely an all time great Vol. Fumbled like 3 times against Florida tho
 
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adam.vol said:
1. Our current president ran on a promise of exposing the clients of a child trafficking network and then began gaslighting anyone who had the nerve to question what was being done about it, once he got into office.
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Raping kids while wearing Armani pants around your ankles on Epstein Island, US combat fatigues in South Vietnam, or a yarmulke in Vegas is socially acceptable in the USA.
 
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adam.vol said:
Clairvoyant are we? I’m just not big on being pretentious, that’s all.
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Pretentious? LOL dude had the intent of hooking up with what he thought was a juvenile. That's gross anyway you look at it. If me thinking it's gross makes me pretentious, color me guilty.
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
This happened all across the globe in pretty much every culture until the last couple hundred years. This is illegal behavior in 2025 and we outlaw it for good reason as a society. He deserves to be prosecuted, but this is not pedophilia. Good lord some of you are so over the top with this it's absurd.
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Wanting and intending to sleep with a child isn't pedophilia?? Apparently I don't understand the definition of the word.
 
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