23 Straight Road Losses to AP Top-10 Teams.

#51
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VFL-82-JP said:
Sure it is.

Look at how carefully contrived this is.

First, he had to take out all home games. Because that wouldn't make the Vols look bad.

Then he had to take out all neutral site games, bowl games, and so on. Same reason.

Then he had to restrict it to Top 10 teams. Not Top 15, not Top 25, just Top 10.

That latter step is rather arbitrary. Why not Top 12? Why not Top 5? Or Top 3?

Because the person setting the conditions was looking for a result (to talk down the Vols) and selected the criteria that best allowed him to do that.

Not buying it.

Reality isn't really reality if it is a contrived subset of reality. Mark Twain famously pointed that out.

Go Vols!


p.s. Here's a litmus test to demonstrate just how janky this is.

Question 1: Have the Vols beaten Top 10 teams since Josh Heupel became our head coach?
Question 1: Have the Vols beaten Top 10 teams away from home since Josh Heupel became our head coach?
Question 2: Have the Vols beaten Top 10 teams on away games since Josh Heupel became our head coach?

The answer to the first two questions is, "yes." The answer to the last is "no." That's how carefully calibrated the criteria were.
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“First he had to take out all home games”
“Top 10 is arbitrary.”

We are playing on the road, so that’s pretty relevant. People use Top 10 all the time. Media, fans, Sportscenter, David Letterman, etc. Neutral site games are not “away” games and are a totally different animal.

Unbelievable levels of delusion and spin from you. But in the off chance we win, you’ll be the first person talking about how massive it is to beat a top 10 Bama team on the road after trying to argue that beating Iowa in a meaningless bowl game is as good as any other win.
 
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Boca Vol said:
Until 1992, UT didn’t play UGA that often. UT is 3-10 in Athens this century. UT beat them all 4 times they played there in the 90’s.
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They beat us 44-0 there when I was 5. We had just moved to Georgia and my Dad got the bright idea to take me to the game with some neighbors. We didn't ever make it in the game though because I got sick, which he thanked me for later.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Sure it is.

Look at how carefully contrived this is.

First, he had to take out all home games. Because that wouldn't make the Vols look bad.

Then he had to take out all neutral site games, bowl games, and so on. Same reason.

Then he had to restrict it to Top 10 teams. Not Top 15, not Top 25, just Top 10.

That latter step is rather arbitrary. Why not Top 12? Why not Top 5? Or Top 3?

Because the person setting the conditions was looking for a result (to talk down the Vols) and selected the criteria that best allowed him to do that.

Not buying it.

Reality isn't really reality if it is a contrived subset of reality. Mark Twain famously pointed that out.

Go Vols!


p.s. Here's a litmus test to demonstrate just how janky this is.

Question 1: Have the Vols beaten Top 10 teams since Josh Heupel became our head coach?
Question 1: Have the Vols beaten Top 10 teams away from home since Josh Heupel became our head coach?
Question 2: Have the Vols beaten Top 10 teams on away games since Josh Heupel became our head coach?

The answer to the first two questions is, "yes." The answer to the last is "no." That's how carefully calibrated the criteria were.
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the troll will always find a goalpost. If we beat Bama it’ll be top 3 teams on the road in Saturday nights with even dates 😂😂😂😂
 
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VAWL FAN said:
If I had this attitude before my team played I'd just stop watching sports entirely.What's the point?
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It's a good idea to be prepared with the possibility your team could lose. (Tennessee hasn't beaten bama at bama in ages) Than to think your team is going to win every game. It is not very likely these days; for any team, and bama @ bama is going to be a tough task. I just hope the Vols play well in all phases of the game and if so, will accept the result. Bama is a more talented team than UT. That's the realism of it.
 
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Since this streak goes back to 2009, I checked and there are 4 SEC teams above .500 against all ranked opponents during that span. Bama, Oklahoma, Georgia, and LSU (in that order). Probably shouldn't include Oklahoma since they were still in the Big12 for most of this time frame.

Everybody else in the SEC has a losing record against top 25 teams.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
the troll will always find a goalpost. If we beat Bama it’ll be top 3 teams on the road in Saturday nights with even dates 😂😂😂😂
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Yeah stats can read any way you want them to by critiquing, or setting any number of criteria. I mean sure they may show up and beat top whatever teams at home, but if they have a pattern of getting beat by unranked teams(not saying they do) at home then is it really that impressive?

It’s like TN fans only saying TN has beat Bama 2 out of the last 3. Sure that’s true, but it’s neglecting the last few decades that make it look different.
 
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volfan102455 said:
The interesting thing is that Tennessee has played a lot of top 10 teams on the road between 2009 and now. There were a couple of years (2013 and 2014) where we played 3 both those years.

Interesting stat - during the same time frame, Georgia played 14 top 10 teams on the road and was 4-10.
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All of this negativity needs to stop vol fans! Georgia had a long home winning streak before Alabama came to town and I bet their fans were not so negative on their chances? They broke the streak and we can too!!
 
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advancedrescue27 said:
Yeah stats can read any way you want them to by critiquing, or setting any number of criteria. I mean sure they may show up and beat top whatever teams at home, but if they have a pattern of getting beat by unranked teams(not saying they do) at home then is it really that impressive?

It’s like TN fans only saying TN has beat Bama 2 out of the last 3. Sure that’s true, but it’s neglecting the last few decades that make it look different.
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Pretty sure it will be 2025 UT roster lead by Huepel versus 2025 Bubba roster lead by Deboer. Only games near similar are 1-0, Vols. Am i doing it right? 😉🧡🤙🏼

🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
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#70
zeppelin128 said:
What is everybody else's record against top 10 teams on the road?

Tennessee doesn't exist in a vacuum, I'd wager the vast majority of teams have a pretty shoddy record against elite teams on the road...
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Exactly. This is a stupid stat since we obviously sucked for about 15 years. Heupel came into a complete train wreck. And nobody gas a great record against top 10 teams on the road. If we checked, those top 10 teams were probably all frauds.
 
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OmahaOmaha said:
It's a good idea to be prepared with the possibility your team could lose. (Tennessee hasn't beaten bama at bama in ages) Than to think your team is going to win every game. It is not very likely these days; for any team, and bama @ bama is going to be a tough task. I just hope the Vols play well in all phases of the game and if so, will accept the result. Bama is a more talented team than UT. That's the realism of it.
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I'm a fan I don't want to be a realist.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
Calling OU last year a top 15 team is technically true, but they went 6-7. Neutral site games are a totally different animal.

We haven’t beaten a great team in the road in a very long time. It’s not a “carefully bound combination of requirements,” it’s reality.
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How many great teams are there??? Everytime one loses everyone calls them trash or overrated. You’re cherry picking. Who besides Ohio State would you call elite? Up until tonight Miami had looked strong. Georgia has lost to bama 9 out of 10. I would venture most teams don’t have winning records against top 10 teams on the road. Most all teams have some struggles. Only a very few that aren’t currently, it doesn’t mean they aren’t capable. Just like we’re capable of winning tomorrow, if we play well. GBO
 
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Woodlawn VOL said:
How many great teams are there??? Everytime one loses everyone calls them trash or overrated. You’re cherry picking. Who besides Ohio State would you call elite? Up until tonight Miami had looked strong. Georgia has lost to bama 9 out of 10. I would venture most teams don’t have winning records against top 10 teams on the road. Most all teams have some struggles. Only a very few that aren’t currently, it doesn’t mean they aren’t capable. Just like we’re capable of winning tomorrow, if we play well. GBO
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Every year there are 10 Top 10 teams. We haven’t beaten a team of that caliber on the road in a very long time. We beat a LSU team that was good not great, a decent Pitt team, that’s about it.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Funny how when so called "trolls and negas" point out history, we're ridiculed for living in the past, but the sunshine pumpers quote it with impunity. Odd how that works.
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What team are you a fan of? As every comment concerning Tennessee from you is negative, I know it's not the vols.
 
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