Penn St fires James Franklin

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I've never cared for Franklin and always thought him and Penn State were overrated. But to fire him midseason is really s**** by Penn State. Franklin did resurrect that program after the most heinous scandal and made them into a perrenial contenders. He never got the job done, but to all of a sudden kick him to the curb for a 3 game losing streak is some BS. I hope Penn State take a long lost ride on the coaching carousel
 
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vavolfan6 said:
I've never cared for Franklin and always thought him and Penn State were overrated. But to fire him midseason is really s**** by Penn State. Franklin did resurrect that program after the most heinous scandal and made them into a perrenial contenders. He never got the job done, but to all of a sudden kick him to the curb for a 3 game losing streak is some BS. I hope Penn State take a long lost ride on the coaching carousel
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TBF-Bill O'Brien got them through the Paterno fallout.

By the time Franklin came along a few years later that was already kinda in the rear view mirror
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
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That’s the most sensible thing I’ve read all day.

I wouldn’t have speculated it openly without any source, but I suspected Adidas wasn’t ready to pay top dollar to a .500 team. If I am Adidas, I’m setting a B10 school up to beat Oregon and Nike every year.

I wonder what Adidas is saying about Tim Banks’s defense
 
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vols 30 said:
I've read he gets a $50 million buyout. Not sure if that's true or maybe negotiated for a little less
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Honest question because I’m not an attorney - if I’m James Franklin and I stand to be paid 49 million per my contract, why would I negotiate or settle for less? It’s in the contract, and if you’re getting rid of me, so why would I take less for you to get rid of me?
 
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The Original Fade said:
Honest question because I’m not an attorney - if I’m James Franklin and stand to be paid 49 million per my contract, why would I negotiate or settle for less? It’s in the contract, and if you’re getting rid of me, why would I take less for you to get rid of me?
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Well there are worlds where the school would offer to pay a lump sum up front for less than the spread out payments over years.

Not sure the timeframe but basically, you can get paid $50m over 6 years or we will pay you half over 2 years.

In most cases, I don’t see coaches doing the school that just fired them a favor but in this case, Franklin was there a long time and likely will live there at least for the short term. So if it was mutual split, maybe he doesn’t have an axe to grind with them and wants to be kind.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Well there are worlds where the school would offer to pay a lump sum up front for less than the spread out payments over years.

Not sure the timeframe but basically, you can get paid $50m over 6 years or we will pay you half over 2 years.

In most cases, I don’t see coaches doing the school that just fired them a favor but in this case, Franklin was there a long time and likely will live there at least for the short term. So if it was mutual split, maybe he doesn’t have an axe to grind with them and wants to be kind.
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Thanks, appreciate the response
 
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The Original Fade said:
Honest question because I’m not an attorney - if I’m James Franklin and I stand to be paid 49 million per my contract, why would I negotiate or settle for less? It’s in the contract, and if you’re getting rid of me, so why would I take less for you to get rid of me?
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I would think that there have probably been cases where a coach has accepted a bit less to protect future job opportunities

Shows potential future ADs that you know how to play the game and accept your own failures, etc etc


Start out 1-3 and know your squad sucks and is destined for 1-11? May be best to cut and run. You can maybe explain 1-3 but 1-11 is a bit more difficult to rationalize.

Pretty much every coach gets two chances unless they really suck (ie Dooley and Pruitt).

All coaches eventually get fired on a long enough timeline anyway. There may be the rare exception like Saban or Osbourne who goes out on their own but they are rare as hens teeth.
 
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Penn St realizes anyone with a pulse can take a program like theirs in the Big 10 and get 10 wins every year. There are a couple teams at the top of the conference that are elite and everyone else kind of sucks. And Franklin couldn’t beat any of those non-sucky teams
 
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The Original Fade said:
Honest question because I’m not an attorney - if I’m James Franklin and I stand to be paid 49 million per my contract, why would I negotiate or settle for less? It’s in the contract, and if you’re getting rid of me, so why would I take less for you to get rid of me?
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I think he'd be crazy to do it too, and I doubt he will, but I've seen it before from exiting coaches. Maybe there's some other incentive ?
 
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adam.vol said:
That’s the most sensible thing I’ve read all day.

I wouldn’t have speculated it openly without any source, but I suspected Adidas wasn’t ready to pay top dollar to a .500 team. If I am Adidas, I’m setting a B10 school up to beat Oregon and Nike every year.

I wonder what Adidas is saying about Tim Banks’s defense
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If adidas has one single rep talk to Danny White or Josh Heupel about how he coaches or manages his football team, I hope he tells them to f^ck right off .
 
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