Recruiting Forum Football Talk IX

#46,777
#46,777
Weezer said:
I don't want to be Georgia. I just want the officiating they get.
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That would be awesome wouldn't it?...to truly be in the protected class? What kills me is that those in the protected class refuse to acknowledge it, which isn't really that strange, heck...just think about it, we have a lot of our own fans that refuse to acknowledge the truth of it despise the piled up evidence of a lifetime of seeing it happen.


They mostly deny it for two very human reasons that really are easy to understand, but ultimately they are what make the corruption possible....These things are counted on by the ones responsible for the corruption, and it doesn't matter who they are, or "why" they do it....it only matters that it absolutely IS happening.

#1...The stupid asinine idea that has been drilled into our brains first as boys and then as men, that calling out corrupt officiating is somehow "crying" or "whining"...and of course the ones that throw that out there the loudest are in the protected class. So guys become extremely reticent to call out the obvious, no matter how brutal the screw job is, or how many times it happens, simply because they don't want to be seen as weak.


#2...And in my opinion the biggest reason, is that people desperately want to hold on to the illusion of a completely level playing field. Nobody wants to think that sports outcomes are heavily manipulated towards a few protected programs....and I get it, it absolutely sucks to think that a lot of what we see is ultimately little more than professional wrasslin... not all of it to be sure, but even one game whose outcome is manipulated for whatever reason, is one game too many, and there are multiple games every weekend where the corruption is as clear as day.


These folks always get caught up in the "WHY"...I understand that because I once did as well. Their arguments are very compelling....but I let go of that a long time ago. The WHY doesn't matter to me anymore, some things that happen make little sense, like last night's corrupt travesty...I mean WHY would they want to derail us?...it makes no sense for a lot of very good reasons, but 10-1...AT NEYLAND screams the truth as loud as a jet engine...

Maybe it's gambling sinking it's multi billion dollar claws into it....how many lost money on the spread last night?....or maybe it's just pure human pettiness of a crew of people that grew up hating the Vols?...or maybe and most likely it's the SECorrupt trying to influence the playoff selections for whatever crazy reasons they have...

Whatever the WHY....I don't give a single runny 💩 what the reason WHY is anymore, I just know it is happening and continues to happen all over College Football....and I just want it to stop. Just let it play out fairly....whether you call it tight, or just let them play....just call it even and fair.
 
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GROK: Did Adidas Drive the Firing of Penn State Coach James Franklin?

Yes, multiple reports and insider sources indicate that Adidas played a significant role in the decision to fire Penn State head football coach James Franklin on October 12, 2025, midway through his 12th season. This came after a shocking three-game losing streak (to Oregon, UCLA, and Northwestern), dropping the Nittany Lions to 3-3 despite preseason national title expectations. Franklin, who compiled a 104-45 record at Penn State including a College Football Playoff semifinal appearance last year, was let go despite a massive contract buyout—estimated at $49.7 million to $56 million, the second-largest in college football history.Key Details on Adidas' Involvement
  • Financial Backing for the Buyout: Adidas reportedly committed to covering most or all of Franklin's buyout as part of their new $300 million, 10-year apparel deal with Penn State (set to replace a 30+ year Nike partnership starting in 2026). This financial incentive reportedly made the firing feasible, removing a major barrier for university leadership.
  • Timing and Pressure: Sources claim Adidas pushed for a coaching change before the recent losses, viewing Franklin as an obstacle to the program's future under their branding. The deal includes enhanced Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) resources, which Adidas tied to a "fresh start" for the team.
  • Broader Controversy: The switch to Adidas has sparked outrage among some Penn State board of trustees members, who allege they weren't shown full contract details from either Adidas or Nike during negotiations. The university has denied any misconduct.
Official University Response
Penn State's athletic director Pat Kraft praised Franklin's legacy in a statement, calling him a builder of a "national power," but emphasized the need for new leadership. Assistant coach Terry Smith was named interim head coach for the rest of the season. The school vigorously denied irregularities in the Adidas deal process via a statement from trustees.

Public and Media Reaction on X (formerly Twitter)
The rumor spread rapidly on X today, with sports insiders amplifying it:
  • A Penn State source told reporter Mike J. Asti (@MikeAsti11) that "Adidas drove the James Franklin firing and [is] why it happened today." @MikeAsti11 This post garnered over 5,000 likes and 400 reposts within hours.
  • Users speculated on legal angles, with one noting excitement for Franklin's lawyers if Adidas overstepped: "If there is anything to rumors of Adidas forcing the Franklin firing... I think I’d be pretty excited if I was James Franklin’s lawyer." @SportsHutch
  • Others highlighted the buyout funding: "Before you bring up the James Franklin firing, apparently Adidas is bankrolling most of the buyout."
 
#46,784
#46,784
DD4ME said:
Would you bank on him?
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If he was a UT alum and had his resumé? Yeah I’d be like we should def go bring him home.

I would also prob rather have Cig. But Rhule is considered a very good coach in coaching circles and has a proven history of making programs good, usually in Y3.. Again, hasn’t taken over one already primed and ready to go tho.
 
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jmacvols1 said:


GROK: Did Adidas Drive the Firing of Penn State Coach James Franklin?

Yes, multiple reports and insider sources indicate that Adidas played a significant role in the decision to fire Penn State head football coach James Franklin on October 12, 2025, midway through his 12th season. This came after a shocking three-game losing streak (to Oregon, UCLA, and Northwestern), dropping the Nittany Lions to 3-3 despite preseason national title expectations. Franklin, who compiled a 104-45 record at Penn State including a College Football Playoff semifinal appearance last year, was let go despite a massive contract buyout—estimated at $49.7 million to $56 million, the second-largest in college football history.Key Details on Adidas' Involvement
  • Financial Backing for the Buyout: Adidas reportedly committed to covering most or all of Franklin's buyout as part of their new $300 million, 10-year apparel deal with Penn State (set to replace a 30+ year Nike partnership starting in 2026). This financial incentive reportedly made the firing feasible, removing a major barrier for university leadership.
  • Timing and Pressure: Sources claim Adidas pushed for a coaching change before the recent losses, viewing Franklin as an obstacle to the program's future under their branding. The deal includes enhanced Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) resources, which Adidas tied to a "fresh start" for the team.
  • Broader Controversy: The switch to Adidas has sparked outrage among some Penn State board of trustees members, who allege they weren't shown full contract details from either Adidas or Nike during negotiations. The university has denied any misconduct.
Official University ResponsePenn State's athletic director Pat Kraft praised Franklin's legacy in a statement, calling him a builder of a "national power," but emphasized the need for new leadership. Assistant coach Terry Smith was named interim head coach for the rest of the season. The school vigorously denied irregularities in the Adidas deal process via a statement from trustees.Public and Media Reaction on X (formerly Twitter)The rumor spread rapidly on X today, with sports insiders amplifying it:
  • A Penn State source told reporter Mike J. Asti (@MikeAsti11) that "Adidas drove the James Franklin firing and [is] why it happened today." @MikeAsti11 This post garnered over 5,000 likes and 400 reposts within hours.
  • Users speculated on legal angles, with one noting excitement for Franklin's lawyers if Adidas overstepped: "If there is anything to rumors of Adidas forcing the Franklin firing... I think I’d be pretty excited if I was James Franklin’s lawyer." @SportsHutch
  • Others highlighted the buyout funding: "Before you bring up the James Franklin firing, apparently Adidas is bankrolling most of the buyout."
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Yeah I don’t believe that at all
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
That would be awesome wouldn't it?...to truly be in the protected class? What kills me is that those in the protected class refuse to acknowledge it, which isn't really that strange, heck...just think about it, we have a lot of our own fans that refuse to acknowledge the truth of it despise the piled up evidence of a lifetime of seeing it happen.


They mostly deny it for two very human reasons that really are easy to understand, but ultimately they are what make the corruption possible....These things are counted on by the ones responsible for the corruption, and it doesn't matter who they are, or "why" they do it....it only matters that it absolutely IS happening.

#1...The stupid asinine idea that has been drilled into our brains first as boys and then as men, that calling out corrupt officiating is somehow "crying" or "whining"...and of course the ones that throw that out there the loudest are in the protected class. So guys become extremely reticent to call out the obvious, no matter how brutal the screw job is, or hiw many times it happens, simply because they don't want to be seen as weak.


#2...And in my opinion the biggest reason, is that people desperately want to hold on to the illusion of a completely level playing field. Nobody wants to think that sports outcomes are heavily manipulated towards a few protected programs....and I get it, it absolutely sucks to think that a lot of what we see is ultimately little more than professional wrasslin... not all of it to be sure, but even one game whose outcome is manipulated for whatever reason, us obe game too many.


These folks always get caught up in the "WHY"...I understand that because I once did as well. Their arguments are very compelling....but I let go of that a long time ago. The WHY doesn't matter to me anymore, somethings that happen make little sense, like last night's corrupt travesty...I mean WHY would they want to derail us?...it makes no sense for a lot of very good reasons, but 10-1...AT NEYLAND screams the truth as loud as a jet engine...

Maybe it's gambling sinking it's multi billion dollar claws into it....how many lost money on the spread last night?....or maybe it's just pure human pettiness of a crew of people that grew up hating the Vols?...or maybe and most likely it's the SECorrupt trying to influence the playoff selections first whatever crazy reasons they have...

Whatever the WHY....I don't give a single runny 💩 what the reason WHY isvanymore, I just know it is happening and continues to happen all over College Football....and I just want it to stop. Just let it play out fairly....whether you call it tight, or justvlet them play....just call it even and fair.
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I think "protected class" shifts from week to week. We get calls too sometimes that don't make much sense but we tend to gloss over them because they favor us. There are definitely narratives CFB is interested in upholding, but I saw FSU get all the calls in week one vs. Bama and then Bama get them on the road against Georgia.
 
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Chat GPT candidates

Here are the top names being discussed right now:

Name Current Role / Background What Makes Them Attractive for PSU Potential Concerns / Fit Issues

Matt Rhule Nebraska Head Coach; played at PSU (walk-on) Deep connection to PSU; already in the Big Ten; has experience turning around programs (Baylor, Temple) Might prefer staying at Nebraska, or reluctant to uproot; risk of failing expectations in State College
Curt Cignetti Indiana Head Coach Currently having great success, including CFP appearance; can win in a Big Ten environment; relatively fresh face Age (mid-60s) could limit long term horizon; convincing him to leave a rising Indiana might be a challenge
Manny Diaz Duke Head Coach; former PSU defensive coordinator Familiar with PSU’s culture; strong defensive mind and recruiter; already known in region Mixed head coaching record; needs to prove sustainability at the highest levels
Andy Kotelnicki PSU Offensive Coordinator Insider candidate; has shown offensive improvement in his tenure; continuity inside the program Still building head coaching résumé; jump from OC → a blue-blood head coach is big leap
Kenny Dillingham Arizona State Head Coach Young, energetic, rising star; success in recent seasons Less of a profile compared to more proven Big Ten coaches; would require more trust on less proven track record
 
#46,789
#46,789
MarcoVol said:
If he was a UT alum and had his resumé? Yeah I’d be like we should def go bring him home.

I would also prob rather have Cig. But Rhule is considered a very good coach in coaching circles and has a proven history of making programs good, usually in Y3.. Again, hasn’t taken over one already primed and ready to go tho.
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So a plan B.
 
#46,794
#46,794
DD4ME said:
Chat GPT candidates

Here are the top names being discussed right now:

Name Current Role / Background What Makes Them Attractive for PSU Potential Concerns / Fit Issues

Matt Rhule Nebraska Head Coach; played at PSU (walk-on) Deep connection to PSU; already in the Big Ten; has experience turning around programs (Baylor, Temple) Might prefer staying at Nebraska, or reluctant to uproot; risk of failing expectations in State College
Curt Cignetti Indiana Head Coach Currently having great success, including CFP appearance; can win in a Big Ten environment; relatively fresh face Age (mid-60s) could limit long term horizon; convincing him to leave a rising Indiana might be a challenge
Manny Diaz Duke Head Coach; former PSU defensive coordinator Familiar with PSU’s culture; strong defensive mind and recruiter; already known in region Mixed head coaching record; needs to prove sustainability at the highest levels
Andy Kotelnicki PSU Offensive Coordinator Insider candidate; has shown offensive improvement in his tenure; continuity inside the program Still building head coaching résumé; jump from OC → a blue-blood head coach is big leap
Kenny Dillingham Arizona State Head Coach Young, energetic, rising star; success in recent seasons Less of a profile compared to more proven Big Ten coaches; would require more trust on less proven track record
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Don’t see Cignetti leaving and you might as well kept Franklin if you hire any of the others.
 
#46,798
#46,798
jmacvols1 said:


GROK: Did Adidas Drive the Firing of Penn State Coach James Franklin?

Yes, multiple reports and insider sources indicate that Adidas played a significant role in the decision to fire Penn State head football coach James Franklin on October 12, 2025, midway through his 12th season. This came after a shocking three-game losing streak (to Oregon, UCLA, and Northwestern), dropping the Nittany Lions to 3-3 despite preseason national title expectations. Franklin, who compiled a 104-45 record at Penn State including a College Football Playoff semifinal appearance last year, was let go despite a massive contract buyout—estimated at $49.7 million to $56 million, the second-largest in college football history.Key Details on Adidas' Involvement
  • Financial Backing for the Buyout: Adidas reportedly committed to covering most or all of Franklin's buyout as part of their new $300 million, 10-year apparel deal with Penn State (set to replace a 30+ year Nike partnership starting in 2026). This financial incentive reportedly made the firing feasible, removing a major barrier for university leadership.
  • Timing and Pressure: Sources claim Adidas pushed for a coaching change before the recent losses, viewing Franklin as an obstacle to the program's future under their branding. The deal includes enhanced Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) resources, which Adidas tied to a "fresh start" for the team.
  • Broader Controversy: The switch to Adidas has sparked outrage among some Penn State board of trustees members, who allege they weren't shown full contract details from either Adidas or Nike during negotiations. The university has denied any misconduct.
Official University Response
Penn State's athletic director Pat Kraft praised Franklin's legacy in a statement, calling him a builder of a "national power," but emphasized the need for new leadership. Assistant coach Terry Smith was named interim head coach for the rest of the season. The school vigorously denied irregularities in the Adidas deal process via a statement from trustees.

Public and Media Reaction on X (formerly Twitter)
The rumor spread rapidly on X today, with sports insiders amplifying it:
  • A Penn State source told reporter Mike J. Asti (@MikeAsti11) that "Adidas drove the James Franklin firing and [is] why it happened today." @MikeAsti11 This post garnered over 5,000 likes and 400 reposts within hours.
  • Users speculated on legal angles, with one noting excitement for Franklin's lawyers if Adidas overstepped: "If there is anything to rumors of Adidas forcing the Franklin firing... I think I’d be pretty excited if I was James Franklin’s lawyer." @SportsHutch
  • Others highlighted the buyout funding: "Before you bring up the James Franklin firing, apparently Adidas is bankrolling most of the buyout."
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Sounds like a fake news AI write up.

I don’t believe Adidas had a single comment on it much less has any actual role or financial involvement in the decision. Adidas is not in the business of managing teams. They simply pay you to sell they’re brand alongside yours based on how good you are.
 
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