Biden FBI spied on 8 senators: Arctic Frost Investigation

[RockyTop85]

I am assuming with letters, and possible texts and emails, those would require a warrant to obtain.

and as a lay person the general difference seems to be that a subpoena requires the subject to provide specific "information", while a warrant allows the government to go seize whatever is covered.

I think the first paragraph is correct.

Tennessee has a statute (40-17-123) that covers these subpoenas. They have to be issued by a judge and there is a quantum of suspicion requirement (reasonable basis, which is vague).

Very brief search for the 6th circuit and Tennessee cases for use of that statute to obtain text messages turned up a small number of cases and nothing really on point. Usually that’s a sign that law enforcement just knows better.

I think the subpoena and warrant work basically the same way, it’s just a matter of what it can be used for. The more invasive the search or the more inherently private/protected the information tends towards needing a warrant. In this case, because it’s being obtained from a third party, it is less invasive and because it doesn’t involve the contents of communications it was arguably not protected.

 

[Majors]

A whistleblower came forward about the investigation, but nothing about the reason or findings, correct?

No, no whistleblower.

 

[BreatheUT]

I don't get the default of extreme government distrust here.

Is it about the evidence presented to the grand jury?
the grand jury?
fbi overstepping the scope of what the grand jury allowed?

I agree,, but Smith was in charge of this. That should be enough.

 

[sonofUT62]

Couldn’t pay me a government salary to listen to Lindsey’s 2 AM phone calls.

 

[BeardedVol]

 

[n_huffhines]

Lmao

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Ironic considiner you all hide your head up your asses on anything Trump does and then but, but....Biden.

But but....Hunter!

But but...her emails!

But but...Obama!

Hell you idiots are blaming Democrats for the government shutdown and your side controls the entire government. You dont' need a single Democrat vote to get your budge through but they're too big of cowards to do it.

Voting for a clean bill to keep the .gov open isn’t hard…let the circus continue.

 

[Rickyvol77]

You know that "journalist" works for the CIA and has been caught lying multiple times right?

 

[BeardedVol]

You know that "journalist" works for the CIA and has been caught lying multiple times right?

You know that subpoenaing mobile phone tolling data is not "tapping a phone", right?

 

[Vol8188]

So, why were they spying and what did they find… or are we just going to assume it was unwarranted?

So you’re going to start with the assumption that spying on your political opponents is warranted? This should always require a large amount of evidence and be heavily scrutinized

 

[Vol8188]

I don’t think I’ve ever weighed in on anything recently with Comey, but as far as I’m concerned present any evidence on Comey and let’s see where it falls. If it’s a big nothing burger then obviously Trump is using the DOJ for retribution. Present the evidence.

Same in this case. If it’s true there were investigations, present the cause (if there is one) and any findings before judgement is passed. Assuming everything is politically motivated is a mistake, especially when it can objectively be proven or disproven.

I don’t like the Comey investigation, but I also opposed investigations into Trump and the senators listed in the thread.

Am I mistaken or are you only opposed to the Comey investigation?

 

[Ashevolle]

Trump falsely claims "Biden FBI" placed agents in Jan. 6 crowd

“THE BIDEN FBI PLACED 274 AGENTS INTO THE CROWD ON JANUARY 6,” the president wrote in a late-night post to Truth Social.

www.newsweek.com

Wow. Incredible that Biden was able to pull this off when Trump was president..... His deep state powers must include time travel.

 

[CobbVol]

Shocked to see sweet, sweet Lisa was doing her act regarding this corruption ...

From the article:

“Just received this doc frm DOJ Proof that Biden Atty General Merrick Garland+ Deputy Atty General Lisa Monaco+ FBI Dir Chris Wray all PERSONALLY APPROVED opening Arctic Frost,” the Iowa Republican wrote Thursday afternoon on X.

The document is initialed by the DOJ’s top generals, unleashing Arctic Frost, the flimsy FBI probe that led to politically conflicted Special Counsel Jack Smith’s election lawfare campaign against President Donald Trump. The political witch hunt aimed to take down the Democrats’ biggest political threat in advance of the 2024 election.

“It is interesting to note who was aware of and approved the fishing expedition initiated by FBI Director Christopher Wray, supported by Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco, and approved by Attorney General Merrick Garland,” the Wisconsin senator told The Federalist Thursday. “It should come as no surprise that these are some of the same partisan actors who have sullied the FBI and DOJ and done such egregious harm to our country.”

Doc Shows Garland, Wray All Over Corrupt 'Arctic Frost'

'This investigation unleashed unchecked govt power at the highest levels. My oversight will continue,' Sen. Grassley wrote on X.

thefederalist.com