I love, love, love Heupel, BUT

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JMSqb11 said:
You can have a great game for 59 minutes and still having a losing grade with just 1 minute of game time. The Georgia game showed that. Luckily we squeaked out a win in Starkville.
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It wasn't luck. It was a long drive that wore out the State defense leading to a touchdown in OT against a gassed D. It's almost as if somebody did that very thing to us a couple of weeks ago and CJH was paying attention. Having said that, during the game, I was wondering why he wasn't calling those timeouts either. Whatever he was doing worked and we won, though, so I'll take that and enjoy this weekend's games, especially Bama at Vandy, with a warm fuzzy feeling from an SEC road win going in to a bye. I recommend it!
 
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The defense that so many people think isn't any good was pretty freaking good with the game on the line, too. 1st and goal inside the 5 and Mississippi state got stonewalled. Pretty good.
 
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Prayivm3rcy said:
I dont see where calling any timeouts would have saved time that Aguilar burned off by holding onto the ball for too long
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You take a t/o after the initial first down. You have two left, you can get a better call in, and can discuss the situation. (don't hold ball). You ended the game with 2 t/o's on their side of the field. It was mismanaged. I have no problem with initial run off, as we were leaving no doubt that they wouldn't get the ball back. I understand that aspect, but just using the timeouts after that would have given us 1-3 more plays. I'm just confused with the double down on it, and this isn't the first. I'll have to look into the archives but there's been other times.
 
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Mccage said:
I’m cutting Hype some slack….We had the ball on our own 30 with 17 seconds left and broke a 16 year drought. We won the f***ing game against MS. Somebody show me a loss where we lost a game because of clock management. I’ll hang up and listen.
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Rewatch the end the Arkansas game last year. We ran out of time with a t/o left. I love Heup, but he needs to hire someone to help with his clock management! I'm cheap!
 
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WillisWG said:
maybe DD spent too much time working on his appearance instead of working on his coaching
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This.. plus I thought Dooley looked stupid with how he dressed 😆 I guess we all have our opinions, but I don’t really care what the coaches wear, as long as it’s not distracting or ridiculous 😂
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Still a crazy double down... We got the first down with 13-14 seconds left and 2 timeouts. We could have spiked the ball because there was no way we'd get 3 plays off in 14 seconds so save the timeouts.

We only needed 10-12 yards for FG attempt. There was just no real world scenario where we would needed 2 timeouts with 13 seconds left.
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He did the right thing there. Play ended at 13. They snap the next play at 12.
 

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PastorVolFan said:
Don't disagree...some definite head-scratcher decisions...

And...this one I'll admit is really petty...but geez, I kinda wish he cared more about his appearance on the sideline. The slobb-ish look seems to be getting worse the longer he's here. He looks like a Dad on vacation at the beach who decided not to shave for a week.
(Admittedly not the most important thing, but that job deserves a little more image effort, IMO)
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That’s what’s wrong with the country. What is slobbish about the way he looks? Not shaving? We want to go back to bland clean shaven wear suits. Who gives a ****. Places legit won’t allow hair color or tattoos when that **** is completely irrelevant to the job being done.
 
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jeffreync said:
I really do think Heupel is an excellent coach, and I enjoy the hell out of the teams he's been putting out there. From an entertainment/fan perspective, as well as the type of humans it seems he's recruiting. Seems like a fun culture, and one that the fans can get behind. BUT, sometimes the stuff he does is mind boggling to me. And, the worst part of it is he always seems to double down on these decisions. I'm hoping it's just his way of answering a media question. I'm currently referring to the clock management at the end of the game Saturday. CLEARLY, that was a blunder. Now a lot of people will criticize the move to run the clock down initially to 45 seconds. I'm actually with Heup at this point. This was, in my opinion, the winningest time management strategy to deploy. (would gladly debate that as well) The blunder was not using the two timeouts. We could have easily got 2/3 more plays to get the yardage needed had we just called the timeouts when we should have. After the game, when asked, Heup just said something about well we already had the play called. Well that might have been your reasoning that led to a follied conclusion, but the lack of acknowledgment is bewildering sometimes to me. Hit me up Heupel if you need an onfield guy help you with some clock management! I'm cheap! The end of the first half was also botched imo.
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All coaches will make questionable decisions that will be second guessed. Overall, I like the trajectory of this program, especially considering the last 4 coaches. Don’t know who would realistically come here and would be an upgrade. Not a lot of great options out there. Look at the turd pile Arky is sifting through for their next coach. I will gladly keep CJH
 
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vol_sec said:
Lebby ran three pass plays under 2 mins and gave it right back to UT. Heupal decided that UT would either score or go into overtime with that intentional clock management, no giving it back to State. That decision cost him in the end by not enough time for the fg, but if they didn’t make the first down, it could have easily the other way as well. If they were behind, he would have done it differently.
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I agree with your take and understand the other side of the coin but think he made the right call in this instance. You don’t want to give them another possession and your defense is prone to give up some big plays.

My thought is he did the math on the FG distance, time remaining and thought he could get it done. If they didn’t you go to OT. If they get the first he’d be lauded as a mad scientist.
 
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Vol8188 said:
He did the right thing there. Play ended at 13. They snap the next play at 12.
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He claimed they had a second play dialed up to go. There was no world where we were getting more than 3 plays in that 13 second mark. So either spike it and save the 2 timeouts for 2nd and 3rd down plays or call timeout immediately because of how panicky he looked.

There is zero reason to take timeouts into expiration. You can’t take them with you.


Allowing “Joey to scramble and run off too much time” as a justification for the decision not to use his timeouts is just moronic
 
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JMSqb11 said:
He claimed they had a second play dialed up to go. There was no world where we were getting more than 3 plays in that 13 second mark. So either spike it and save the 2 timeouts for 2nd and 3rd down plays or call timeout immediately because of how panicky he looked.

There is zero reason to take timeouts into expiration. You can’t take them with you.


Allowing “Joey to scramble and run off too much time” as a justification for the decision not to use his timeouts is just moronic
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You can for sure get 3 plays in 13 seconds. The two timeouts is helpful because if you complete it there you take one timeout. You have maybe 6 or 7 seconds left. Then you can either run or pass to make your fg a bit closer and take the last timeout.

Joey scrambling wasn’t my justification for not taking the timeout nor was it his. The justification was they already had the play called and therefore they didn’t need the timeout.

Like I said the bishop played ended at 13. They snap the next play at 12. So why would you want to take a timeout? Because of 1 second?
 
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Vol8188 said:
You can for sure get 3 plays in 13 seconds. The two timeouts is helpful because if you complete it there you take one timeout. You have maybe 6 or 7 seconds left. Then you can either run or pass to make your fg a bit closer and take the last timeout.

Joey scrambling wasn’t my justification for not taking the timeout nor was it his. The justification was they already had the play called and therefore they didn’t need the timeout.

Like I said the bishop played ended at 13. They snap the next play at 12. So why would you want to take a timeout? Because of 1 second?
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No. I’m saying Heupel used that as his justification in the post game presser. Absolutely moronic thing to say
 
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JMSqb11 said:
No. I’m saying Heupel used that as his justification in the post game presser. Absolutely moronic thing to say
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No he didn’t. He said he already had the next play called. Meaning “our guys knew the play and could run it quickly without taking a timeout”.

And he was right. Like I said 13 seconds for the end of the Bishop run. 12 seconds at the next snap.

Where’s the moronic part?
 
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Building character and team through team coaching not individual. To survive this with mistakes and missed assignments builds "Team dynamics" not individual. Shows players that everybody needs their teammate.

This is a win to grow on and learn from more so than a loss. Big kudos and no quit.

Does not hurt that we have a week to evaluate.
 
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gemlek said:
All coaches will make questionable decisions that will be second guessed. Overall, I like the trajectory of this program, especially considering the last 4 coaches. Don’t know who would realistically come here and would be an upgrade. Not a lot of great options out there. Look at the turd pile Arky is sifting through for their next coach. I will gladly keep CJH
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Agreed, all decisions can't be perfect, and all coaches get outcoached. AND, don't take it any other way, when I say I love CJH. I think he's potentially a top 10 coach, that is young, and will likely be in the coaching hall of fame one day, and I can't wait to watch him hopefully be in Knoxville for LIFE!!!!!! LONG LIVE CHJ! But yeah, maybe hire another analyst to help or check your logic on those critical times! I honestly think, what he's most guilty of is trying to be too perfect with the time at the end of the game. There's perception of how long something is going to take, and how it should happen, and then there's reality. And, just historically, I think, CHJ as overestimated how quick we can go, and honestly maybe what that quickness does to our next play call (and execution of play). Again, long live CHJ, but doesn't mean I can't be critical of how he's handled the end of numerous games.
 
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Vol8188 said:
No he didn’t. He said he already had the next play called. Meaning “our guys knew the play and could run it quickly without taking a timeout”.

And he was right. Like I said 13 seconds for the end of the Bishop run. 12 seconds at the next snap.

Where’s the moronic part?
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That he lost time by not calling a to…this in inarguably stupid and to argue against it is to brand yourself not that smart
 
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cgrish said:
He did let 30 to 40 seconds run off the clock with no to called near the end of regulation. I am talking about before this run.
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You said “the play before that”. Which was the Bishop run.

But the one you’re referencing wasn’t because of “not calling a timeout”. You realize our offense in probably the faster in the country between plays, right?
 
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