Wars, genocide, reparations, religion, eggs, covid,etc (split from recruiting forum)

[SmyrnaATLVolisback]

This ^ is easy enough to say

But this ^ doesn’t logically follow. Why would you vote R’s for 25 years, if R’s destroy the economy “every time”, and D policies fix it?


This ^ is certainly a take…

Last line….

Could have literally s*** a brick when they named the Inflation reduction act. It literally led to the greatest increase in inflation in decades. It did the exact opposite but they knew most Americans would be too stupid to realize it and named it appropriately to slap us all in the face.

 

[85SugarVol]

Nope. They literally just report what happens and verify it with direct quotes. They don't say anything to try to convince you one way or the other. They just say exactly what happened. It is not a "news entertainment" organization like MSNBC or Fox News. It is a staple of American journalism and it is appalling to remove them from the press pool. Btw another violation of the first amendment

You simply saying “nope” is very convincing.

AP bias presents in what they choose to cover, and the words and terminology they deploy in said coverage.

You’re right that AP mostly presents facts. But when you pick and choose which facts you present - you are crafting.

AP is made up of human beings. It’s not a robot monolith. Humans are biased - so is AP.

AP is slightly less biased than ABC, and slightly more balanced than BBC and The Hill. Congrats?

 

[85SugarVol]

Last line….

Could have literally s*** a brick when they named the Inflation reduction act. It literally led to the greatest increase in inflation in decades. It did the exact opposite but they knew most Americans would be too stupid to realize it and named it appropriately to slap us all in the face.

I understand his confusion now. He really thought the Inflation Reduction Act was about reducing inflation.

 

[Heupel's Offseason Beard]

Did you vote for Harris?

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[Heupel's Offseason Beard]

You simply saying “nope” is very convincing.

AP bias presents in what they choose to cover, and the words and terminology they deploy in said coverage.

You’re right that AP mostly presents facts. But when you pick and choose which facts you present - you are crafting.

AP is made up of human beings. It’s not a robot monolith. Humans are biased - so is AP.

AP is slightly less biased than ABC, and slightly more balanced than BBC and The Hill. Congrats?

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Alright man. Do whatever you need to to feel okay with the president of the United States banning a staple of journalism from the press pool. Say what you will about previous presidents, but neither Biden, Obama, or Bush ever did that because it infringes on the constitution. There was one instance where Obama administration didn't allow Fox News to ask questions in one interview , but then allowed it after consideration. Freedom of speech and freedom of press are gone in this country. Just don't be surprised when more and more and more freedoms are taken from you.

I enjoyed this conversation, but I can see it's not getting anywhere. You guys are stuck in your beliefs and i get that it's scary to get out of your bubble. Believe me, i wholeheartedly trusted my life with the Republican Party for many years. But then i started viewing events from every point of view and i realized that i was being lied to. I hope you guys have a great day. Just remember that it's not me, or your neighbor, or the Mexican family down the street trying to incite violent rhetoric everyday. It's not them who raises your taxes 2 years after the implementation of a new tax code to make the other side look bad. And it won't be them knocking on your door demanding ID without a warrant or suspicion of a crime while wearing full tactical gear and an assault rifle in hand.

 

[Heupel's Offseason Beard]

This ^ is easy enough to say

But this ^ doesn’t logically follow. Why would you vote R’s for 25 years, if R’s destroy the economy “every time”, and D policies fix it?


This ^ is certainly a take…

Because, unlike too many people in this country, I do my own research from multiple points of view and I can admit when the data proves my previous assumptions wrong. Believe it or not, you can admit when you were wrong and grow from it. I'm not saying Democrats>Republicans. I'm literally just saying that Trump is a bad person.

 

[Heupel's Offseason Beard]

So Biden, his glorious and wonderful 4 years, is what made you finally switch to the left?

Open borders, forced Covid shots, forced mask, tax payer money for illegals, afghan pull out failure……

All that made you go THIS is my kinda party?

When every dem running for President raised their hand for undocumented illegals getting healthcare THAT made you go YES this is pro America?????

25 years and Biden made a tickle go down your leg????

No dude. I didn't say "this is my party". What I realized was "Republicans politicians don't care about me. At all." And they don't care about you. They don't care about farmers, they don't care about small business owners, and they don't care about the working class. They care about political leverage and staying in power. That's it. Democrats at least try to reach across the aisle on issues. But republicans will strike down anything that does anything good for America so that Democrats don't get credit. Then they repackage it as their own idea. They do not care about their constituents man. And before you say it, yes, I also feel this way about corrupt democrats like Schumer, Pelosi, etc. they're just as evil if not more, because they try to appear as the good guys. The whole current political landscape is a nightmare.

 

[Heupel's Offseason Beard]

Just try not to let my disdain of an evil man affect how we interact in the football discussions. Let's leave it in here. Agreed?

 

[SmyrnaATLVolisback]

Nope. I abstained from voting for president last election because I didn't trust the DNC to do anything worthwhile and I didn't trust Trump to not destroy what makes America, America. I just voted in local elections. Look. I get it. You guys have an idea of who someone who opposes Trump is. You think I'm a blue haired tranny who wants to get people canceled for saying jokes and hates Christians. I'm none of those things. In fact, 99.9% of people who don't like Trump aren't like that. I'm just a blue collar worker who paid for his own college and is trying to open a small business. I just see what's going on around the country and it absolutely worries me where we're headed.

Trump may say things that you agree with, but I promise you 100% that he would stomp on your mother's face if it meant he'd make more money. The dudes a grifter. And it's opening the door for more grifters. And personally, I don't like the technocratic future that we're headed to where if you don't generate profits for a corporation, then you mean nothing to the country. Where did the empathy go? Did we forget every lesson in the Bible about loving your neighbor and forgiveness and the warnings of a "deceiver who uses faith to lure the church into following them"? What part of the Bible said it's okay to cut medical care for disabled and elderly people to pay for tax cuts for the rich? Have we lost our minds??

I love all of you guys. I really do. You may disagree with my views, but I love everybody until they infringe on the welfare of others. And thats what's happening everyday now. I appreciate political discussions. I'm willing to hear anybody's point of view. I just hope that you can see mine.

No one thinks that of you at all. Just giving you facts and other opinions. We’re all American. In fact, I believe most people are more moderate and just cross a line either left or right one way. Then you have a small base of radicals on both sides. We all have different views for sure.

 

[NEO]

Nope. I abstained from voting for president last election because I didn't trust the DNC to do anything worthwhile and I didn't trust Trump to not destroy what makes America, America. I just voted in local elections. Look. I get it. You guys have an idea of who someone who opposes Trump is. You think I'm a blue haired tranny who wants to get people canceled for saying jokes and hates Christians. I'm none of those things. In fact, 99.9% of people who don't like Trump aren't like that. I'm just a blue collar worker who paid for his own college and is trying to open a small business. I just see what's going on around the country and it absolutely worries me where we're headed.

Trump may say things that you agree with, but I promise you 100% that he would stomp on your mother's face if it meant he'd make more money. The dudes a grifter. And it's opening the door for more grifters. And personally, I don't like the technocratic future that we're headed to where if you don't generate profits for a corporation, then you mean nothing to the country. Where did the empathy go? Did we forget every lesson in the Bible about loving your neighbor and forgiveness and the warnings of a "deceiver who uses faith to lure the church into following them"? What part of the Bible said it's okay to cut medical care for disabled and elderly people to pay for tax cuts for the rich? Have we lost our minds??

I love all of you guys. I really do. You may disagree with my views, but I love everybody until they infringe on the welfare of others. And thats what's happening everyday now. I appreciate political discussions. I'm willing to hear anybody's point of view. I just hope that you can see mine.

Major assumptions.

We only think EL has blue hair.

I just think your wrong.

 

[85SugarVol]

Because, unlike too many people in this country, I do my own research from multiple points of view and I can admit when the data proves my previous assumptions wrong. Believe it or not, you can admit when you were wrong and grow from it. I'm not saying Democrats>Republicans. I'm literally just saying that Trump is a bad person.

You said R’s screw up the economy “every time”, and then D’s fix it.
You said that after you said you voted R for 25 years.

Doesn’t add up.

And none of that ^ is explained by the fact that Trump is a petty, ass-clown, buffoon.

 

[Heupel's Offseason Beard]

Liberals shot a presidential candidate and killed a conservative Christian. The streets of Portland and Chicago that are filled with rioters are not Republican, those are liberals. The violence is very much one sided. Not one city burned or was looted when either of those events listed above happened.

And Obama issued the national guard to Ferguson and other areas abroad and issued many more drone strikes under his command that trump. Do you think he didn’t have authority? Because they both have authority under the laws of this country to deploy the national guard and issue air strikes.

Again, you are posting with feelings.

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[85SugarVol]

Alright man. Do whatever you need to to feel okay with the president of the United States banning a staple of journalism from the press pool. Say what you will about previous presidents, but neither Biden, Obama, or Bush ever did that because it infringes on the constitution. There was one instance where Obama administration didn't allow Fox News to ask questions in one interview , but then allowed it after consideration. Freedom of speech and freedom of press are gone in this country. Just don't be surprised when more and more and more freedoms are taken from you.

I enjoyed this conversation, but I can see it's not getting anywhere. You guys are stuck in your beliefs and i get that it's scary to get out of your bubble. Believe me, i wholeheartedly trusted my life with the Republican Party for many years. But then i started viewing events from every point of view and i realized that i was being lied to. I hope you guys have a great day. Just remember that it's not me, or your neighbor, or the Mexican family down the street trying to incite violent rhetoric everyday. It's not them who raises your taxes 2 years after the implementation of a new tax code to make the other side look bad. And it won't be them knocking on your door demanding ID without a warrant or suspicion of a crime while wearing full tactical gear and an assault rifle in hand.

Who said I was “okay” with it? That’s just a pathetically weak strawman you constructed.

It was incredibly stupid for Trump to ban AP from the press pool. Very on brand for him.

Your second paragraph is just wild-ass screed. Though I’m not surprised you resorted to that after your “The AP is 100% unbiased” position became untenable.

 

[Heupel's Offseason Beard]

You said R’s screw up the economy “every time”, and then D’s fix it.
You said that after you said you voted R for 25 years.

Doesn’t add up.

And none of that ^ is explained by the fact that Trump is a petty, ass-clown, buffoon.

Okay well I don't know what to tell you. I have a keen judgement of character and that dude just keeps doing stuff that spits in the face of this country's founders. And that doesn't sit right with me. I hope that one day you can understand that your feelings and opinions could be adjusted as you experience more of life. You don't have to be the same guy forever. Good luck buddy. I hope you enjoy the bye week

 

[85SugarVol]

Yeah I am fully 100% against most of the drone strikes. Did you think I wouldn't be just because I respect him as the president?
Also Obama didn't deploy the national guard to Ferguson, the governor of Missouri did. Because that's how that's supposed to work bro.
And for a group of people who distrusted the government for so long, you don't find the "assassination attempt" on Trump a little fishy? How many other 70 year old guys can grow the cartilage in their ear back in months lol. And in regards to Charlie Kirk, I hate what happened to him. He got young people involved in politics and I think he meant well and didn't deserve to get shot. But if you truly believe that that kid murdered him (personally I think it was Mossad since Kirk had recently began talking about how we shouldn't support Israel) , then go ahead and look into him. He was raised in a MAGA, gun loving household. His father was a minister AND a cop. His grandmother said that everyone in the family was a Trump supporter including the shooter. He also only went to one semester at one of the most conservative universities in the country so that idea that he was "radicalized by liberal college" is ridiculous. He then entered trade school. What part of that life screams "liberal" to you. And all the stuff about his friend saying "he started getting weird politically" came directly from his involvement with the "groyper" movement who are a conservative group led by Nick Fuentes (look into him) whose entire nihilist (look this word up if anyone doesn't know what it really means) accelerationist message is "the future is going to suck so let's destroy society as quickly as possible". Wouldn't inciting a civil war from a political assassination move that forward?

Buddy, I interact with liberals all the time. They just want to be allowed to be themselves and live a fulfilling life. Some of them are weird, yes. Some of them are mentally ill yes. But there is not a liberal ideology that says "let's kill conservatives". It doesn't exist. You may want it to. But it does not exist. It's just mentally ill people having access to guns and the internet, and no access to mental health services. And it's on both sides of the aisle.

Oh I understand now.

You buy the fake assassination conspiracy theory.
As well as the “yes, he has a trans-furrie boyfriend, but he’s really Maga underneath” concoction.

 

[Heupel's Offseason Beard]

Who said I was “okay” with it? That’s just a pathetically weak strawman you constructed.

It was incredibly stupid for Trump to ban AP from the press pool. Very on brand for him.

Your second paragraph is just wild-ass screed. Though I’m not surprised you resorted to that after your “The AP is 100% unbiased” position became untenable.

Alright well then I misjudged you. No ill will towards anyone. I don't even know what the point of all of this was. I just want people who view the world as left versus right to realize that it's up versus down. And basically none of us are in the up.

 

[Heupel's Offseason Beard]

Oh I understand now.

You buy the fake assassination conspiracy theory.
As well as the “yes, he has a trans-furrie boyfriend, but he’s really Maga underneath” concoction.

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[85SugarVol]

Okay well I don't know what to tell you. I have a keen judgement of character and that dude just keeps doing stuff that spits in the face of this country's founders. And that doesn't sit right with me. I hope that one day you can understand that your feelings and opinions could be adjusted as you experience more of life. You don't have to be the same guy forever. Good luck buddy. I hope you enjoy the bye week

Lol you tuck tail and run when challenged on your BS assertion.

Trump is effing terrible, but has absolutely zero to do with the fairy tale you concocted.

“R’s screw up the economy every time; it’s why I voted for them for 25 years”
- Lolz boy

 

[Heupel's Offseason Beard]

Lol you tuck tail and run when challenged on your BS assertion.

Trump is effing terrible, but has absolutely zero to do with the fairy tale you concocted.

“R’s screw up the economy every time; it’s why I voted for them for 25 years”
- Lolz boy

Whatever dude. I'm deleting all of this because there's no point. Keep viewing politics as a team sport and see where that gets the country. If you see me in the recruiting forum continuing to kick Negavols asses, don't bring this stuff up

 

[Smokey123]

Yeah I am fully 100% against most of the drone strikes. Did you think I wouldn't be just because I respect him as the president?
Also Obama didn't deploy the national guard to Ferguson, the governor of Missouri did. Because that's how that's supposed to work bro.
And for a group of people who distrusted the government for so long, you don't find the "assassination attempt" on Trump a little fishy? How many other 70 year old guys can grow the cartilage in their ear back in months lol. And in regards to Charlie Kirk, I hate what happened to him. He got young people involved in politics and I think he meant well and didn't deserve to get shot. But if you truly believe that that kid murdered him (personally I think it was Mossad since Kirk had recently began talking about how we shouldn't support Israel) , then go ahead and look into him. He was raised in a MAGA, gun loving household. His father was a minister AND a cop. His grandmother said that everyone in the family was a Trump supporter including the shooter. He also only went to one semester at one of the most conservative universities in the country so that idea that he was "radicalized by liberal college" is ridiculous. He then entered trade school. What part of that life screams "liberal" to you. And all the stuff about his friend saying "he started getting weird politically" came directly from his involvement with the "groyper" movement who are a conservative group led by Nick Fuentes (look into him) whose entire nihilist (look this word up if anyone doesn't know what it really means) accelerationist message is "the future is going to suck so let's destroy society as quickly as possible". Wouldn't inciting a civil war from a political assassination move that forward?

Buddy, I interact with liberals all the time. They just want to be allowed to be themselves and live a fulfilling life. Some of them are weird, yes. Some of them are mentally ill yes. But there is not a liberal ideology that says "let's kill conservatives". It doesn't exist. You may want it to. But it does not exist. It's just mentally ill people having access to guns and the internet, and no access to mental health services. And it's on both sides of the aisle.

Yup. Mossad killed the most pro Israel influencer on the right outside of Ben Shapiro. That’s some really logical thinking. So logical that you have to spread the lie that he said we should stop supporting Israel

 

[85SugarVol]

Alright well then I misjudged you.

I have a keen judgement of character

You are an absolute riot. This forum could use more of you.

 

[Heupel's Offseason Beard]

Yup. Mossad killed the most pro Israel influencer on the right outside of Ben Shapiro. That’s some really logical thinking. So logical that you have to spread the lie that he said we should stop supporting Israel

He reversed his feelings on Israel in the weeks before the assassination. I promise you

 

[85SugarVol]

Whatever dude. I'm deleting all of this because there's no point. Keep viewing politics as a team sport and see where that gets the country. If you see me in the recruiting forum continuing to kick Negavols asses, don't bring this stuff up

All because you got caught in a lie?

Sack up.

 

[85SugarVol]

Yup. Mossad killed the most pro Israel influencer on the right outside of Ben Shapiro. That’s some really logical thinking. So logical that you have to spread the lie that he said we should stop supporting Israel

Dude is on par with K-Town & Swamp

 

[Heupel's Offseason Beard]

You are an absolute riot. This forum could use more of you.

You're just being a dick now because you know that I'm the only one who doesn't worship Trump here so you know that you can pile on without any recourse from others. We almost had a moment of understanding, but you want to resort to these lame ass tactics while ignoring all of my actual points. So I'm done with this ****. Rename this forum "Donald Trump good. Democrat bad"