President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

[hog88]

Sure they should be forced.

An emergency room should be forced to treat a child with life threatening injuries.

Should a mechanic be forced to fix a poor person’s car so they can go to work to feed their children?

 

[Orange_Crush]

Because we will treat a child with life threatening injuries at any emergency room, regardless of ability to pay.

Disagreement is "nuts"? I know for a fact that you disagree with LOTS of things that "we" do in America. Methinks you're trying to have your cake and eat it too.

What makes it "nuts" to not want to give someone something that they don't deserve?

 

[luthervol]

Should a mechanic be forced to fix a poor person’s car so they can go to work to feed their children?

nope

 

[luthervol]

Disagreement is "nuts"? Methinks you're trying to have your cake and eat it too.

What makes it "nuts" to not want to give someone something that they don't deserve?

let whoever believes that step up and say that an emergency room should have the right to refuse to treat a child with life threatening injuries due to an inability to pay.

 

[MOOOOONEY]

That all of the nuts on here screaming that non-citizens should receive no health care and that there is absolutely no room for compromise are just that...................nuts

Luther,

You’re screaming at the clouds over nothing.

I haven’t seen one poster that said non-citizens should not receive healthcare.

I’ve seen many including myself say they should not receive free healthcare provided by taxpayers.

You’re spewing out propaganda.

 

[hog88]

What are you all gonna do when trump dies? Ya gotta find a personality somewhere.

Get up, go to work. Drink some cold drinks on the weekend out on the lake, do some camping or go to the beach. You know, the same chit I always do.

 

[Orange_Crush]

let whoever believes that step up and say that an emergency room should have the right to refuse to treat a child with life threatening injuries due to an inability to pay.

I'm asking about what YOU said. You said that anyone who wouldn't compromise on this is "nuts". I'm asking on what specific basis, and you seem to just have to dance around answering it.

So, again... On what basis, besides disagreement with current state (which we all disagree with something about culture without being "nuts"), is it "nuts" not to want to give people something that they do not deserve?

Similarly, why would it be wrong for someone to stand up and say that emergency rooms should be able to refuse to treat a dying child? You seem to be inferring that a child's life is something with intrinsic value. If so, based on what? If not, why would it be a big deal to let it end?

 

[hog88]

nope

Then why should a healthcare provider be forced to provide services they won’t be paid for?

 

[Ritzwatch]

Luther,

You’re screaming at the clouds over nothing.

I haven’t seen one poster that said non-citizens should not receive healthcare.

I’ve seen many including myself say they should not receive free healthcare provided by taxpayers.

You’re spewing out propaganda.

The left has conflated “health care” with “health insurance” for so long that many no longer distinguish the two as separate and distinct concepts.

 

[luthervol]

Luther,

You’re screaming at the clouds over nothing.

I haven’t seen one poster that said non-citizens should not receive healthcare.

I’ve seen many including myself say they should not receive free healthcare provided by taxpayers.

You’re spewing out propaganda.

What??????????????? Whatever healthcare they receive will ultimately be paid by the taxpayer.

 

[MOOOOONEY]

Then why should a healthcare provider be forced to provide services they won’t be paid for?

JMO.

I would say that the vast majority would.

They shouldn’t be forced.

 

[luthervol]

Then why should a healthcare provider be forced to provide services they won’t be paid for?

Because of how society views the difference between car repair and saving the life of a child.

 

[Orange_Crush]

What??????????????? Whatever healthcare they receive will ultimately be paid by the taxpayer.

Why should they deserve it if those paying for it don't even get it?

If they do deserve it, based on what standard?

 

[Orange_Crush]

Because of how society views the difference between car repair and saving the life of a child.

If society decides not to give free healthcare to them, then it becomes a non-issue. Problem solved.

 

[hog88]

JMO.

I would say that the vast majority would.

They shouldn’t be forced.

I would hope the vast majority would provide the care and I think the vast majority would.

 

[hog88]

Because of how society views the difference between car repair and saving the life of a child.

Society views do not override individual liberty.

 

[luthervol]

If society decides not to give free healthcare to them, then it becomes a non-issue. Problem solved.

Which is precisely why I said...................
Let that person come forward and make that claim.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Society views do not override individual liberty.

In Luther's viewpoint societal views define morality for everyone. Except when society is wrong and needs to evolve to agree with him. Eezy peezy.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Which is precisely why I said...................
Let that person come forward and make that claim.

You haven't really said anything. I'd love some answers that don't try to side-step the gaping holes in your logic and underlying relativistic worldview.

Let's try again... Thanks in advance.

I'm asking about what YOU said. You said that anyone who wouldn't compromise on this is "nuts". I'm asking on what specific basis, and you seem to just have to dance around answering it.

So, again... On what basis, besides disagreement with current state (which we all disagree with something about culture without being "nuts"), is it "nuts" not to want to give people something that they do not deserve?

Similarly, why would it be wrong for someone to stand up and say that emergency rooms should be able to refuse to treat a dying child? You seem to be inferring that a child's life is something with intrinsic value. If so, based on what? If not, why would it be a big deal to let it end?

 

[C-south]

I never said that. I said there was room and need for compromise.
The nuts on here said there was no room for compromise.
Go back and look if need be.

Should be a perfect opportunity to deport those here illegally. Maybe we can bill their home country as we send them back. That’s a perfect compromise.

 

[luthervol]

Society views do not override individual liberty.

An emergency room cannot refuse treating a child with life threatening injuries.

Society says so.

 

[luthervol]

Should be a perfect opportunity to deport those here illegally. Maybe we can bill their home country as we send them back. That’s a perfect compromise.

There you go.......even you can now see that there is room, and need, for compromise.

 

[85SugarVol]

Got a liberal killing immigrants is that still political violence? Just need to know which rules you’re playing with.

According to the MAGA echo chamber yes. He just missed. Still political violence. Still caused deaths.

But I dont expect Trump to be consistent since he does absolutely nothing out of principle.

What? A Left shooter killed immigrants?

 

[volfanhill]

Should be a perfect opportunity to deport those here illegally. Maybe we can bill their home country as we send them back. That’s a perfect compromise.

Prior to deportation they have to work our fields and in construction with wages going only to their debt. Of course they will incur more debt while they are housed and fed working off this debt. Then back to their home country. Compromise

 

[Orange_Crush]

Prior to deportation that have to work our fields and in construction for free until the debt is paid. The back to their home country. Compromise