Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

[OHvol40]

Whatever floats your boat dude.

You’ve been proven wrong twice.

Or you’re just giving up. Cool

 

[MOOOOONEY]

And he would be wrong, because they are 2 different thoughts based solely on perspective. Maybe if he would have finished community college he could have learned the difference.

As a community college dropout He accomplished far more in life than I have and I would not hesitate to say he accomplished more in life than you.

 

[OHvol40]

As a community college dropout He accomplished far more in life than I have and I would not hesitate to say he accomplished more in life than you.

Hey, a great example of perspective. I would say he has done more harm than most do in a lifetime, and he accomplished that in less than a decade and 1/2. Also, thanks for weighing in on my accomplishments, which are very pertinent to this conversation

 

[Orange_Crush]

I don’t remember ever having to provide context to quote MLK Jr, or Mother Theresa, or Nelson Mandel, etc… that’s because it wasn’t required, because their ideas and ideals were unimpeachable. So, I’ll say it again, if you’re constantly searching for context, maybe the content isn’t worth defending. Food for thought.

One of the foundational principles of hermeneutics is literally to interpret and present a writer's/speaker's thoughts in context, seeking what they intended their audience to understand. You seem to be arguing against the need to do so.

The fact of the matter is that I could surf VN, slice and dice, and present any number of your comments out of context to present you as just about anything I want to. You seem dead set on not just doing that to CK, but defending the need to do so.

You do you. I've led you to water. What you do with it is on you.

Also, I usually take literary recommendations from people that can distinguish then/than.

lol Can you please point to the then/than mistake? I'm intrigued.

If you can't figure that out, you probably shouldn't be commenting. Like I said, it's not a complicate concept.

You can add words like "exonerate" and "deniability", but it's pretty clear that the ethical thing to do seems to be merely adding enough context to clearly and honestly convey the speaker's or writer's intent.

Radical idea for some, it would appear.

If you struggle with this in other areas than just trying to demonize dead foes that can't defend themselves, then this may help. It looks like a fairly short read:

I suspect that parting jab is about to backfire on you in a cloud of beautiful irony.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I didn’t ask a question in that response…

Reading comprehension really is hard I guess. I implied I’m done with the conversation because clearly you never wanted to have one in the first place

Evasive, I see.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Coming from the guy who claims every single person in Gaza deserves to die!

Bingo.

 

[Vol8188]

Bingo.

Another one that needs no context

All black people are on government welfare

 

[Orange_Crush]

Another one that needs no context

Unimpeachable.

 

[MOOOOONEY]

Or you’re just giving up. Cool

Give up? Never.

I’ve lived through Derek Dooley, Butch Jones, and Jeremy Pruitt.

I’ve lived through George W Bush, Barack Obama, Donald Trump version 1, and Joe Biden.

I’ve dinned with dimes and slept with negative fives.

I’ve grown up poor and ate fried corn.

I’ve got a little rich and ate some good sandwiches.

You can’t hurt my feelings and make me quit.

 

[MOOOOONEY]

Hey, a great example of perspective. I would say he has done more harm than most do in a lifetime, and he accomplished that in less than a decade and 1/2. Also, thanks for weighing in on my accomplishments, which are very pertinent to this conversation

It’s all in good fun and I mean no harm.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Another one that needs no context

Irony or hypocrisy?

It was tongue-in-cheek brother.

 

[Vol8188]

Hey, a great example of perspective. I would say he has done more harm than most do in a lifetime, and he accomplished that in less than a decade and 1/2. Also, thanks for weighing in on my accomplishments, which are very pertinent to this conversation

What harm? Promoting normal right wing values is harm in your opinion?

 

[OHvol40]

One of the foundational principles of hermeneutics is literally to interpret and present a writer's/speaker's thoughts in context, seeking what they intended their audience to understand. You seem to be arguing against the need to do so.

The fact of the matter is that I could surf VN, slice and dice, and present any number of your comments out of context to present you as just about anything I want to. You seem dead set on not just doing that to CK, but defending the need to do so.

You do you. I've led you to water. What you do with it is on you.



lol Can you please point to the then/than mistake? I'm intrigued.



I suspect that parting jab is about to backfire on you in a cloud of beautiful irony.

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Right, so I’ll ask you the same thing I asked another poster without an answer. Can you point to any instances where CK quotes are being taken out of context in here, so as to misrepresent what he is saying? As in incomplete thoughts? If so, I will listen.

Likely not, thought. What has been provided so far are elaborations that are meant to soften radical statements, which was a common strategy of CK. This was how he operated:
- Question posed
1. Outrageous and often bigoted answer
2. A qualification that distances him from outrageous statement and makes him seem normal again.
3. Sympathy complaining

So trying to redefine virtue until it suits your control does not impress me.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Right, so I’ll ask you the same thing I asked another poster without an answer. Can you point to any instances where CK quotes are being taken out of context in here, so as to misrepresent what he is saying? As in incomplete thoughts? If so, I will listen.

Likely not, thought. What has been provided so far are elaborations that are meant to soften radical statements, which was a common strategy of CK. This was how he operated:
- Question posed
1. Outrageous and often bigoted answer
2. A qualification that distances him from outrageous statement and makes him seem normal again.
3. Sympathy complaining

So trying to redefine virtue until it suits your control does not impress me.

I've spent enough time doing so. You can look at my post history. (I mean, I consider it a great accomplishment that you've changed tact from arguing that context should not be needed to understand a person's intent. This is a landmark moment.)

Again, though. Would you care to elaborate on then/than? It seems the board can benefit greatly from your instruction.

 

[Vol8188]

Right, so I’ll ask you the same thing I asked another poster without an answer. Can you point to any instances where CK quotes are being taken out of context in here, so as to misrepresent what he is saying? As in incomplete thoughts? If so, I will listen.

He wants to stone gays is a great example. But there’s numerous. Did you just show up to this thread?

 

[Smokey123]

Hey, a great example of perspective. I would say he has done more harm than most do in a lifetime, and he accomplished that in less than a decade and 1/2. Also, thanks for weighing in on my accomplishments, which are very pertinent to this conversation

What harm would you say he’s done?

 

[Orange_Crush]

He wants to stone gays is a great example. But there’s numerous. Did you just show up to this thread?

He's a heartless bastard because he hates the word "empathy" would be another.

He claimed that all black women are too dumb to take seriously would be yet another one.

 

[n_huffhines]

 

[OHvol40]

What harm would you say he’s done?

For starters, the “Professor Watchlist” run by turning point (still in use btw) was created to isolate and harass college professors that they think are too liberal. This has resulted in endless harassment of said professors, and even death threats, and again is still in use today. Pretty Christian huh?

 

[Vol8188]

Again, find one well-known left wing pundit who has demanded this. I'll wait.

Hasan Piker has openly called for killing property owners and letting “the streets soak in their capitalist blood”. He also said if you care about Medicare fraud you should “kill Rick Scott”.

Yet he still has opinion pieces featured on NYT and Slate

 

[NashVol11]

I don’t remember ever having to provide context to quote MLK Jr, or Mother Theresa, or Nelson Mandel, etc… that’s because it wasn’t required, because their ideas and ideals were unimpeachable. So, I’ll say it again, if you’re constantly searching for context, maybe the content isn’t worth defending. Food for thought.

Also, I usually take literary recommendations from people that can distinguish then/than.

Mother Theresa is a little sketchy depending on who you ask but I agree with your general idea

 

[OHvol40]

I've spent enough time doing so. You can look at my post history. (I mean, I consider it a great accomplishment that you've changed tact from arguing that context should not be needed to understand a person's intent. This is a landmark moment.)

Again, though. Would you care to elaborate on then/than? It seems the board can benefit greatly from your instruction.

Glad to see you cleaned that up lol

 

[whodeycin85]

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Do you need help learning how to post a link?

 

[PEPPERJAX]

For starters, the “Professor Watchlist” run by turning point (still in use btw) was created to isolate and harass college professors that they think are too liberal. This has resulted in endless harassment of said professors, and even death threats, and again is still in use today. Pretty Christian huh?

Is that really the best for starters example you could come up with?

 

[Smokey123]

For starters, the “Professor Watchlist” run by turning point (still in use btw) was created to isolate and harass college professors that they think are too liberal. This has resulted in endless harassment of said professors, and even death threats, and again is still in use today. Pretty Christian huh?

I’ll look into. Do you know if thats a list they compile or recommended from students?