Bye Week topic: SEC Officiating.

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Tnphil said:
Hard to pay them full-time when most will work only 12 days per year.....Some get bowl games or playoff games but that still basically only 2 weeks out of a year. The same with the NFL....and they get several more regular season games and preseason games. I've known and had friends that were college or NFL refs....and they all had good private jobs. Several were attorneys.

NBA and MLB is pretty much every night....and both seasons are long. The flipping NBA goes most of the summer after the season too.
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My thoughts exactly. ALL the SEC officials I know and have known were in extremely high end careers and would never give up those careers to officiate college sports. I’m sure the league could field full time officials but I feel certain we’d lose prob 50-60% of the current pool. Just a thought.
 
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Volnanza said:
Just going to stir up the this pot a bit. Did you know that the head official was a bama grad.
www.saturdaydownsouth.com

Former Alabama quarterback to serve as head referee in Tennessee vs. Mississippi State game

The head zebra for Tennessee's matchup against Mississippi State played his college ball for the Tide in the late 80s.
www.saturdaydownsouth.com

sometimes I feel like Bugs Bunny. Just being a stinker.
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See? Whether it affects the calls or not, even the look of impropriety should be fixed.
 
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McDad said:
Generally, fans of the game are dissatisfied with officiating. It may be recency bias, but it seems like it is not improving. In fact, I think most everyone (fans, coaches, and media) will all agree it is getting worse. The problems are not limited to the SEC or the college game. It looks like this is true in all conferences and in the pro game.

So, what (if anything) can be done? Is it the resolution of cameras which make the bad calls more obvious? Does the modern game simply move too fast for the human eye? Do we need more officials, more cameras, more reviews?

What can be done to minimize the human error of officiating?
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It would be nice if 15 yd penalties were reviewed i think that would fix the game. No reviews for no calls but reviews on penalties. Because there truly is holding on a lot if not most plays

If the PI on braz was reviewed etc. Too many game ruining calls.

Maybe meet more in the middle: if a penalty counters a 20 yd gain or more it is reviewed
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Are they trained and monitored. I think most officials are part time. I knew several college level and NFL officials in the 80s and 90s they all had their careers and that was a mistake for me making that statement. All are part time, NFL is regulated and organized. Unless their was a change in the NCAA toothless organization and not really governed. I am sure they are assigned games. Anything else catch your sharp eye.

I do think the speed of the game has caused some of the older officials some serious problems.
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College football officials are employed by the individual conferences. I'm guessing some conferences do a better job than others at continual training, evaluating and such but the NCAA doesn't hire or assign officials.
 
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Tnphil said:
There is a shortage in Tennessee. The old guard has died out or retired and there hasn't been enough new ones coming in the past several years. Several games are being played on other nights than Friday to get officials. I'm sure other states are having the same issues.
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They have some really bad ones at the HS level.
 
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hog88 said:
College football officials are employed by the individual conferences. I'm guessing some conferences do a better job than others at continual training, evaluating and such but the NCAA doesn't hire or assign officials.
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Should they? Is officiating to big a factor to be up to conferences?
 
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chuckiepoo said:
They have some really bad ones at the HS level.
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The supervisor of officials just aren't the same as in years past in my days. With there being a shortage they don't want to piss anybody off to create a bigger shortage. Several in the past few years and with Covid up and left already and they just don't want to lose more.
 
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As much money as the SEC andBig 10(12) make,why in the hell do yhey only use part-time refs?These duys are lawyers,salesmen,and otherwise crooks to call these big games correctly and fairly.
 
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McDad said:
Generally, fans of the game are dissatisfied with officiating. It may be recency bias, but it seems like it is not improving. In fact, I think most everyone (fans, coaches, and media) will all agree it is getting worse. The problems are not limited to the SEC or the college game. It looks like this is true in all conferences and in the pro game.

So, what (if anything) can be done? Is it the resolution of cameras which make the bad calls more obvious? Does the modern game simply move too fast for the human eye? Do we need more officials, more cameras, more reviews?

What can be done to minimize the human error of officiating?
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Come on, you see what is going on like the rest of society. They are going to the replay booth and things are clear as crystal but they still screw it up or don't make an obvious call during the game. I'm fully convinced referees are protecting some teams to keep them ranked high (all conferences) or they are involved with gambling themselves.
 
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They need to at least review penalties on scoring plays, whether from a coaches challenge or "the play is under further review".
Most of us, if we're being honest, thought it was OPI against Brazzell in live time. The refs huddled up and discussed. They shouldve went to the monitor to confirm the penalty, or been buzzed down from the replay ref saying "overturn this".
It also would be nice if the public was aware of what the SEC actually does to disciple their refs or improve, other than the rare suspension announcement.
 
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If the refs flagged every infraction on every play, 1. Each game would be 6 hrs long, 2. The game would quickly turn into a flag or two-hand touch tickle fight, and 3. BORING!
 
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wtmvol said:
They tried to start making PI reviewable in the NFL and it didn't work.

I don't think officiating has gotten worse over the years, and if it has it's because officials have been tasked with seeing more (like targeting). A few decades ago, college refs didn't even have to identify the number of the person they called the flag on, and there was only so much we could complain about, because we were watching in glorious SD and could barely make out the teams. I think if we replayed games from the 20th century in HD and scrutinized each call/no-call, today's refs would come out looking pretty good.
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I think you should be able to contest pi calls, maybe like two per game.
 
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Other_Guy said:
They need to at least review penalties on scoring plays, whether from a coaches challenge or "the play is under further review".
Most of us, if we're being honest, thought it was OPI against Brazzell in live time. The refs huddled up and discussed. They shouldve went to the monitor to confirm the penalty, or been buzzed down from the replay ref saying "overturn this".
It also would be nice if the public was aware of what the SEC actually does to disciple their refs or improve, other than the rare suspension announcement.
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I didn't think it was pi offensively at all the player fell down, had it been reviewed it would have been overturned. But it's not just this game, the Okl vs Auburn was terrible.
 
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McDad said:
Generally, fans of the game are dissatisfied with officiating. It may be recency bias, but it seems like it is not improving. In fact, I think most everyone (fans, coaches, and media) will all agree it is getting worse. The problems are not limited to the SEC or the college game. It looks like this is true in all conferences and in the pro game.

So, what (if anything) can be done? Is it the resolution of cameras which make the bad calls more obvious? Does the modern game simply move too fast for the human eye? Do we need more officials, more cameras, more reviews?

What can be done to minimize the human error of officiating?
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I think if the conference leadership has to apologize for a game deciding call, then the refs should be suspended at the least. I'd go as far if a bad call decides a game, swap the results also. You shouldn't get a win, or loss, off a dumb or missed call. Jmo
 
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The Georgia vs TENNESSEE head official.... 20231028_192223.jpgScreenshot_20250928_223000_DuckDuckGo.jpgScreenshot_20250928_141633_DuckDuckGo.jpgScreenshot_20250928_141659_DuckDuckGo.jpg
His crew threw zero flags on Georgia the whole 2nd half/overtime










Oh, It gets better and by better I mean much much worse....






MSU vs TENNESSEE head official...
David Smith played QB for the tide, was a team captain, and the 1988 Sun Bowl MVP
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Screenshot_20250928_222535_DuckDuckGo.jpgScreenshot_20250928_222220_DuckDuckGo.jpg1 flag thrown on MSU in the 2nd half/overtime.






*Both are allowed to officiate any of alabama's biggest rivals games. How is this not a conflict of interest? I was raised to hate alabama just like they were raised to hate TENNESSEE.

There are several other tide alumni that are SEC officials, across all sports. They're the cheatingest school in the SEC and the league office is within 40 minutes of their campus. I remember when alabama played half their games in Birmingham. There is no way anyone affiliated with that school will give TN a fair whistle ever, especially now that we're good again. The hate amongst our schools is real.







And the creme de la creme.......





THE NATIONAL COORDINATOR OF FOOTBALL OFFICIALS IS IN THE alabama SPORTS HALL OF FAME AND A GUMP ALUMNIScreenshot_20250930_190018_DuckDuckGo.jpg*Steve Shaw also serves as the secretary-rules editor of the NCAA Football Rules Committee, a position critical to the development of competition rules and policies. How do you think Nick Saban got rules changed at the snap of his fingers???


Are you payment attention yet???


WAKE UP VOL FANS!!! THE GUMPS ARE IN HIGH PLACES OF POWER!!! THEY HATE OUR SCHOOL AND YOUR GUTS. THEY ARE STILL WANTING PAYBACK FOR PHILIP FULMER TURNING THEM IN FOR CHEATING IN THE LATE 90S/EARLY 2000s. IT'S PERSONAL TO THEM.

Jeremy Pruitt put us into the darkest times our football team ever went through and our athletic department was full of alabama graduates. We were heading towards a SMU level of punishment. Do you think that was a coincidence?


GET THE SEC OFFICE OUT OF BIRMINGHAM. FIRE EVERYBODY AND START FRESH.


GO VOLS
 
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