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LouderVol said:
is stabbing someone with a smaller knife make you less evil than if you used a bigger knife?
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Could definitely be less damaging. And your comparison assumes that any money spent by the government is wrong/destructive.


I agree that neither party is fiscally responsible, but your point, if I understand it correctly, doesn't hold up. Either the government should spend no money, and the conversation is over. Or we can discuss which expenditures are reasonable, and agree that less is generally better than more.
 
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LouderVol said:
is stabbing someone with a smaller knife make you less evil than if you used a bigger knife?
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Us fiscal conservatives have no where to turn. I feel your frustration

But I would prefer not to compound our problems by giving money to Planned Parenthood, NPR, USAID and healthcare for illegals. How ‘bout you?
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Could definitely be less damaging. And your comparison assumes that any money spent by the government is wrong/destructive.


I agree that neither party is fiscally responsible, but your point, if I understand it correctly, doesn't hold up. Either the government should spend no money, and the conversation is over. Or we can discuss which expenditures are reasonable, and agree that less is generally better than more.
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or the third option of sticking to a balanced budget. this would be the "not stabbing someone" option.

either sides expenditures go far beyond what we can pay, and far beyond the scope of the government, and is undoubtedly causing damage. thus the stabbing argument. both are bad, neither gets credit for stabbing less. its still a stabbing.

if you can't find agreements on what can be cut, then everything should be cut by an equal percentage until we are balanced. anything less is just doing damage.

even here the R's are still selling themselves as the financially conservative option. which is a bold faced lie. it relies on the same women's logic when it comes to spending.
 
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Sea Ray said:
Us fiscal conservatives have no where to turn. I feel your frustration

But I would prefer not to compound our problems by giving money to Planned Parenthood, NPR, USAID and healthcare for illegals. How ‘bout you?
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thats not the argument. the argument was us being a socialist nation. us keeping socialist programs for Americans only doesn't make us any less socialist.
 
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LouderVol said:
or the third option of sticking to a balanced budget. this would be the "not stabbing someone" option.

either sides expenditures go far beyond what we can pay, and far beyond the scope of the government, and is undoubtedly causing damage. thus the stabbing argument. both are bad, neither gets credit for stabbing less. its still a stabbing.

if you can't find agreements on what can be cut, then everything should be cut by an equal percentage until we are balanced. anything less is just doing damage.

even here the R's are still selling themselves as the financially conservative option. which is a bold faced lie. it relies on the same women's logic when it comes to spending.
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I laud your ideals. The thing about ideals is that they always make sense in your head and then get messy in real life.


I'll let the cat out of the bag. If needless spending is bad, then less needless spending is less bad. That's just the pragmatic situation that we're in. I'm all for a radical government overhaul and striking deep, lasting fear into our representatives. Until a major overhaul is affected, we basically have two choices, and on this subject of overspending, 4.5 is better than 6.
 
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LouderVol said:
or the third option of sticking to a balanced budget. this would be the "not stabbing someone" option.

either sides expenditures go far beyond what we can pay, and far beyond the scope of the government, and is undoubtedly causing damage. thus the stabbing argument. both are bad, neither gets credit for stabbing less. its still a stabbing.

if you can't find agreements on what can be cut, then everything should be cut by an equal percentage until we are balanced. anything less is just doing damage.

even here the R's are still selling themselves as the financially conservative option. which is a bold faced lie. it relies on the same women's logic when it comes to spending.
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That balanced budget thingy has sailed. The interest on the debt is increasing at such a rate that it's out of control. I know, it sucks
 
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Sea Ray said:
What Trump socialist program(s) are you referring to?
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where did you get the impression I was assigning Trump to any of them?

as far as I know they all existed before he was president the first time. and despite campaigning on it twice, he hasn't done anything to fix them. and instead has made it worse.
 
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Sea Ray said:
It doesn't but it's not as harmful as spending 6.0
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debt is debt, we aren't in any less debt by spending 4.5 that we don't have.

again, yall have fallen into the trap of female logic. Something is normally 600 dollars, I get it on sale for 450 dollars, how much money did I save? none. I spent 450 dollars. and oh yeah I am already way in debt.
 
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LouderVol said:
where did you get the impression I was assigning Trump to any of them?

as far as I know they all existed before he was president the first time. and despite campaigning on it twice, he hasn't done anything to fix them. and instead has made it worse.
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OK, please make your point. Please be clear and pithy
 
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LouderVol said:
debt is debt, we aren't in any less debt by spending 4.5 that we don't have.

again, yall have fallen into the trap of female logic. Something is normally 600 dollars, I get it on sale for 450 dollars, how much money did I save? none. I spent 450 dollars. and oh yeah I am already way in debt.
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Let's accept this as a reasonable analogy. How well does it go over to cut up all the wife's credit cards, take her checkbook and tell her she needs to get a job to pay off the debt. Now apply that to the government which is actually worse than most any woman and tell me what that would actually look like. The first is quite likely a divorce so what does that make the second scenario?
 
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hndog609 said:
Let's accept this as a reasonable analogy. How well does it go over to cut up all the wife's credit cards, take her checkbook and tell her she needs to get a job to pay off the debt. Now apply that to the government which is actually worse than most any woman and tell me what that would actually look like. The first is quite likely a divorce so what does that make the second scenario?
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divorces may be needed for a healthy relationship. especially if you are staring down bankruptcy anyway, with no real reason to believe it will be better after bankruptcy.

and this time it is the kid's, constituents, fault.
 
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Sea Ray said:
Us fiscal conservatives have no where to turn. I feel your frustration

But I would prefer not to compound our problems by giving money to Planned Parenthood, NPR, USAID and healthcare for illegals. How ‘bout you?
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No amount of fiscal conservatism can justify supporting the train wreck that is Trump and MAGA, IMO.
 
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LouderVol said:
divorces may be needed for a healthy relationship. especially if you are staring down bankruptcy anyway, with no real reason to believe it will be better after bankruptcy.

and this time it is the kid's, constituents, fault.
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Keep going...what do you think actually happens (no really, as in actually happens) when trillions of dollars all these people (government/public/private) simply disappears? Forget any and all aspects of how we got where we are, Dems/Repubs/lizard people/whatever, doesn't matter. What do you think will actually happen when all these financial heroin addicts all up and down the political(home and abroad)/social/business/government scale suddenly can't get their fix?
 
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Sea Ray said:
Us fiscal conservatives have no where to turn. I feel your frustration

But I would prefer not to compound our problems by giving money to Planned Parenthood, NPR, USAID and healthcare for illegals. How ‘bout you?
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In this Congress, the democrats could not get over 50% of their House members to vote for a resolution condemning Kirk's assassination. It is funny to think that a balanced budget is even in the realm of possibilities with this group.
 
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