Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

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luthervol said:
Mid terms. That would be enough to send him into remission.
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If the mid-terms would go to MAGA, it's even more indication that society is rejecting the woke liberal worldview. If that were the case, would it make you immoral for rejecting this societal-based morality that you espouse? If society has gone MAGA, shouldn't you, as a moral being in a world where morality is socially-defined, become MAGA as well?

What are the implications for you if you are diametrically opposed to a current moral social construct?
 
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Orange_Crush said:
If the mid-terms would go to MAGA, it's even more indication that society is rejecting the woke liberal worldview. If that were the case, would it make you immoral for rejecting this societal-based morality that you espouse? If society has gone MAGA, shouldn't you, as a moral being in a world where morality is socially-defined, become MAGA as well?

What are the implications for you if you are diametrically opposed to a current moral social construct?
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I personally believe that morality dictates that you remain true to your own evolving morals, even when they contradict the current morals of society.

Really, it's not overly complicated. Except for Flatlanders...
 
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luthervol said:
I personally believe that morality dictates that you remain true to your own evolving morals, even when they contradict the current morals of society.

Really, it's not overly complicated. Except for Flatlanders...
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It's MUCH more complicated than you seem to think.

So, morality isn't even a social construct. It's singularly a Luther construct. Seems pretty arrogant and dangerous, actually.

Also seems to put you in the uncomfortable situation of having to rationalize all the internal contradictions that make you what you claim to hate.


But nonetheless... Can you explain how morality is a social construct, as you've stated, while also not being a social construct, it's an evolving Luther-construct?


Speaking of flatlanders, wouldn't that be you? Wasn't Flatland perched on a series of infinitely-stacked turtles, each insufficient to be the foundation of the flat planet?


You know, when your reductive worldview produces such glaring internal contradictions, it seems rational to step back and reconsider.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
If the mid-terms would go to MAGA, it's even more indication that society is rejecting the woke liberal worldview. If that were the case, would it make you immoral for rejecting this societal-based morality that you espouse? If society has gone MAGA, shouldn't you, as a moral being in a world where morality is socially-defined, become MAGA as well?

What are the implications for you if you are diametrically opposed to a current moral social construct?
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Believe the death of Charlie Kirk solidified the right winning next years mid-terms. Too many seats will have to go on record on how they responded.
 
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luthervol said:
Mid terms. That would be enough to send him into remission.
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You still never told me what the tolerate dad would do. What would you do Luther if your kid showed up with his gay/trans furry lover?

Please educate us stupid and intolerant people. I would schedule ASAP for therapy and psychology
 
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Orange_Crush said:
It's MUCH more complicated than you seem to think.

So, morality isn't even a social construct. It's singularly a Luther construct. Seems pretty arrogant and dangerous, actually.

Also seems to put you in the uncomfortable situation of having to rationalize all the internal contradictions that make you what you claim to hate.


But nonetheless... Can you explain how morality is a social construct, as you've stated, while also not being a social construct, it's an evolving Luther-construct?


Speaking of flatlanders, wouldn't that be you? Wasn't Flatland perched on a series of infinitely-stacked turtles, each insufficient to be the foundation of the flat planet?


You know, when your reductive worldview produces such glaring internal contradictions, it seems rational to step back and reconsider.
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Flatlander is a book.
We're getting into the "it's own thread" territory.
 
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luthervol said:
Flatlander is a book.
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I know, thus the reference to the turtle. Look up the phrase "Turtles all the way down" for the philosophical reference Pritchett was using.


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We're getting into the "it's own thread" territory.
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All we are doing is discussing comments you made in this thread.

As opposed to eschewing the discussion, one would think you'd explore it in helping guide this "evolving self-centered morality".
 
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Majors said:
Believe the death of Charlie Kirk solidified the right winning next years mid-terms. Too many seats will have to go on record on how they responded.
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I don't think the event will have that much staying power. I believe the midterms will be more of the same with campaigns, issues, and rhetoric.
 
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McDad said:
I don't think the event will have that much staying power. I believe the midterms will be more of the same with campaigns, issues, and rhetoric.
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IDK about that. I was around a bunch of 20-30 somethings yesterday at the grandkids b-day parties. The topic of conversation was CK, I think his murder solidified a good many in that age group.
 
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Majors said:
I do, because the new Charlie Kirk Republican of the youth movement is bigger than anyone anticipated.
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I don't disagree with your reasoning. Youth votes seldom materialize and I am not sure the youth vote has ever decided an election. But you are talking about regional elections and not national. I think the chances are higher for them to impact locally rather than nationally.
 
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Vol8188 said:
You still never told me what the tolerate dad would do. What would you do Luther if your kid showed up with his gay/trans furry lover?

Please educate us stupid and intolerant people. I would schedule ASAP for therapy and psychology
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I wouldn't really do anything, especially use derogatory terms.
 
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hog88 said:
IDK about that. I was around a bunch of 20-30 somethings yesterday at the grandkids b-day parties. The topic of conversation was CK, I think his murder solidified a good many in that age group.
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My oldest (girl) who’s been on the fence politically is really questioning what she thought of the liberal platform. Ole dad letting her see the light in her own time.
 
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hog88 said:
IDK about that. I was around a bunch of 20-30 somethings yesterday at the grandkids b-day parties. The topic of conversation was CK, I think his murder solidified a good many in that age group.
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Gen Z (as what they called out) has started questioning leftist policies even prior to this and it has really taken off. Sadly, the group they brainwashed the most is Millennials. Although a lot of them have moved right, that tends to still be their base when they talk about "young people", especially women.
 
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Majors said:
My oldest (girl) who’s been on the fence politically is really questioning what she thought of the liberal platform. Ole dad letting her see the light in her own time.
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My sister used to careless about politics, never even voted. After CK was killed she looked some stuff up and has been texting me all week asking about him and his platform etc...... I hope she has seen the light as well.
 
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I think the Left made a mistake 10-15 years ago. What might have started as a well-intentioned way of lifting up minorities and women quickly escalated into demonizing white men. They created Charlie Kirk to an extent. I don't even think I realized how big a voice he was to young men, especially white men. But it makes sense, that if 1 political group is consistently telling you how awful you are just because of your gender and skin tone, you're probably going to choose the other political party.
 
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