Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

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BeardedVol said:
It's funny to watch you complain about perceived violent rhetoric from 'the left', while painting everyone who disagrees with you as hating the country.

No one would ever accuse you of having self-awareness, but it's still impressive to see cognitive dissonance occur in real time.
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I think the evidence is overwhelming that you leftist hate the country that is not an opinion, that's a fact. we've been seeing it constantly since at least Obama administration
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
He asked about the last 25 years, but I see you couldn't help yourself with that last comment
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Yes, I can't help but point out that even the least offensive is found polarizing by someone. The point is we should marginalize those someones, rather than indulge them.
I'm unsure why you found that contentious.
 
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evillawyer said:
Interesting. The FBI said they would be soliciting public help only if they couldn't identify the shooter on their own. This tells me they can't do it alone.
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What it tells me is merely that they found no match in their facial recognition databases which simply means that this is someone without a criminal record before yesterday
 
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hog88 said:
If I were trying to pull this off and not get caught/noticed.

1. I would have wore clothing that would blend in with the crowd and covered myself with a tarp that blended into the roof. Not all black.
2. After the shot, I would have left the rifle and exfilled by crawling keeping low so not to silhouette myself. With the surrounding buildings creating echo and the mass panic confusion I wouldn't have made a hasty retreat carrying my tools. Let the confusion and panic work for me.
3. Had a stolen vehicle parked nearby and walked/ran just like the rest of the crowd to it then drove away.
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This person was not a “paid assassin”. He was a skilled marksman with an agenda.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I don’t speak for G-d.
The MAGA Christians don’t speak for G-d or his Messiah.
I know you sure as **** don’t.

Everyone would be better off if the worried about the plank in their own eyes and let others do the same.

You seem unintelligent so read your link as many times as you need and see if you can figure out how you can apply it to your life.
Don’t bother reporting back. I’m not worried about your opinion or relationship with The Most High
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It seems like you're struggling to reconcile your political beliefs with your espoused religious beliefs, being that they are antithetical to one another in principle.

'Hopes and prayers' that you can find a way to resolve the conflict.
 
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NCFisher said:
I consider it fringe and irrational to normal people, while thriving in academia and the Democrat party. It's mainstream for a wide swath of the population. I'd demonstrated that in posts some time back when the left exclaimed your kid is only getting CRT and attendant critical studies exposure if they're at Harvard Law. It was entirely false, of course, as I pointed out the two largest teachers unions vowing to fight tooth and nail to defend such teachings in K-12. I literally had excerpts from books in those libraries deleted from the forum because of their sexually explicit, cartoon-for-kids depictions.

OTOH, I'd rather be accurate, truth-serving than to simply win an argument, so I'm always open to counter opinion.
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I am not saying it doesn't get adopted. Just because the teacher's union became fringe doesn't mean that the majority of society agree with their position. The concern for you, is there influence over our children. I am not concerned about that, because I believe my influence at home far exceeds the influence of a school curriculum.
 
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ButchPlz said:
Out of curiosity, have you done any research on the foundation of Israel just before and around 1948?
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Been a long time. And I wouldn't trust my now 60 year old mind too far without a in depth revisit. I wouldn't profess any expertism in my comment. But, it is historically very interesting.
 
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volinbham said:
It was not uncommon for public companies to adopt DEI policies that were grounded in these ideas, same for public universities. Did they all hold these beliefs or just do it because there was some pressure.

AP created a policy to capitalize black when referring to a person's race but use lower case for white when referring to a person's race. Again, did AP leadership hold those fringe ideas or where they just going along with what was thought to more widely held beliefs.

I won't keep up with examples but will just end with my opinion is that the fringe ideas became amplified to an extent that the had more impact than some other fringe ideas (flat earthers for example) ever had or will have.
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none of those are examples of laws equally applying to everyone. i have choice of engagement with AP, public companies, etc.

The fringe idea was adopted by fringe people. It doesn't make it mainstream.
 
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McDad said:
there will be scores of people murdered today. there will be another 'celebrity murder' eventually.
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All death is tragic but there is a difference between the typical murders that regularly occur and killing a random person just because you disagree with their politics. 2 Israeli embassy workers, 2 Minnesota politicians, healthcare CEO, one of the most popular political “activists” all gunned down in the last year. And of course the 2 attempts on trump. Maybe it’s recency bias but this is not normal there’s a deep rooted issue
 
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McDad said:
none of those are examples of laws equally applying to everyone. i have choice of engagement with AP, public companies, etc.

The fringe idea was adopted by fringe people. It doesn't make it mainstream.
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my point is that the fringe ideas had impact well beyond the fringe people. I'm not saying the mainstream became believers.
 
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hog88 said:
If I were trying to pull this off and not get caught/noticed.

1. I would have wore clothing that would blend in with the crowd and covered myself with a tarp that blended into the roof. Not all black.
2. After the shot, I would have left the rifle and exfilled by crawling keeping low so not to silhouette myself. With the surrounding buildings creating echo and the mass panic confusion I wouldn't have made a hasty retreat carrying my tools. Let the confusion and panic work for me.
3. Had a stolen vehicle parked nearby and walked/ran just like the rest of the crowd to it then drove away.
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And wiped the rifle as clean as humanly possible using serious solvent like denatured alcohol before and quickly after the shot. No palm prints (gloves) no cheek molding for DNA, leave as little evidence as possible.

Change of shirt or a jacket/hoodie in my backpack common on any campus. Shirt is quickly changed and later dumped in any accessible dumpster in the Provo area.
 
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Smokey123 said:
All death is tragic but there is a difference between the typical murders that regularly occur and killing a random person just because you disagree with their politics. 2 Israeli embassy workers, 2 Minnesota politicians, healthcare CEO, one of the most popular political “activists” all gunned down in the last year. And of course the 2 attempts on trump. Maybe it’s recency bias but this is not normal there’s a deep rooted issue
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I do not disagree that murdering people for their ideas, or speech, or business policies is not normal. Indeed it isn't. But normal people are not committing these murders.
 
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volinbham said:
my point is that the fringe ideas had impact well beyond the fringe people. I'm not saying the mainstream became believers.
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the examples had impact beyond. some impact was agreement. some impact was disagreement.

Do you agree?
 
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Just saw close up video immediately before the shot was fired showing someone (or two) standing behind Kirk clearly going to the bill of the hat, then the ear as though giving the signal to fire. This was immediately after the first question that was trans related. Do not have access to the video to post, but I'm sure it can now be found on the wire.
 
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Smokey123 said:
All death is tragic but there is a difference between the typical murders that regularly occur and killing a random person just because you disagree with their politics. 2 Israeli embassy workers, 2 Minnesota politicians, healthcare CEO, one of the most popular political “activists” all gunned down in the last year. And of course the 2 attempts on trump. Maybe it’s recency bias but this is not normal there’s a deep rooted issue
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People kill people for a very wide variety of reasons. The fact that millions of people are mourning for this guy when people kill others for subjectively worse reasons is a headscratcher.

My theory? His death is just a vessel and/or excuse to justify more hate.
 
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