Is RFK, Jr. done?

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Has the vaccine schedule or the ingredients changed over the past 30-40 years? I don't have kids so I never looked into what it was, but it was more shots than I realized. But the whole vaccines aren't safe thing didn't seem to blow up until like 10 years ago or something. Probably around the rising influence of social media.
 
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volinbham said:
it was advertised that way by Biden and other public officials/pundits - worse, they told people that were hesitant they were killing other people, should be fired, should be denied health care etc. all this was grounded in misinformation about the ability of the vaccine to stop transmission. Hell both Fauci and the CDC director had Covid multiple times all while shaming people and supporting sanctions against them for not following the guidelines that clearly didn't prevent them from getting the disease
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How i remember it, too. McRib and other hospital employees were "forced" to take it until an employment attorney retained by the one third of employees got involved. And then suddenly, it wasnt mandatory. Medicare reimbursements were talked about being tied to compliance on covid vaccinations in hospitals. It was coercive.

And then, the vaccine needed a booster or 4. Ooops.
 
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NashVol11 said:
RFK repeatedly claiming that kids receive 75 or 100 vaccines or whatever his new number is
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Did he say that specifically, or did he claim they received vaccination for that many specific infectious agents? I did a quick count, and (not accounting for combination vaccines), I get to 59, assuming full series of everything recommended, including 19 flu vaccines through the age of 18, not including any CV19 shots.

The only way to get close to 75 would be to count the DTaP and MMR as 3 each time.

Most practices use combinations such as DTaP-IPV-HepB, DTaP-IPV, etc, so that makes the actual number of "shots" lower.
 
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hog88 said:
It was advertised that way, the president himself said you won't get covid if you take the vaccine. Then people saw with their own eyes vaccinated people still getting Covid.
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Oh well if Biden said that one time, it definitely negates all of the guidance from public health officials and all of the very public discussions comparing the different vaccines and their efficacy. No way this would be a narrative pushed by bad faith idiots who ignored all of the guidance anyway
 
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TheDeeble said:
Has the vaccine schedule or the ingredients changed over the past 30-40 years? I don't have kids so I never looked into what it was, but it was more shots than I realized. But the whole vaccines aren't safe thing didn't seem to blow up until like 10 years ago or something. Probably around the rising influence of social media.
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I am sure KD will be reply with the facts but I think the schedule and the ingredients have changed.
There are more vaccines now than 40 years ago. And KD already mentioned they no longer have preservatives.
 
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McDad said:
How i remember it, too. McRib and other hospital employees were "forced" to take it until an employment attorney by the one third of employees got involved. And then suddenly, it was mandatory. Medicare reimbursements were talked about being tied to compliance on covid vaccinations in hospitals. It was coercive.

And then, the vaccine needed a booster or 4. Ooops.
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And then federal mandates were lifted in 2023.
 
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dalton_vol said:
If you have to get multiple booster shots, it's not a vaccine. LG's president wanted this. That regime kicked out and ruined many people's lives because of that forced vaccine. Not to mention all of the complications
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Lots of vaccines involve booster shots...
 
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McDad said:
I think RFK has been a net positive. I am happy with the many things and don't think the sky is falling with other things.
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I totally agree. It's so refreshing to see somebody that pushes common sense points like diet and exercise. I feel like the pharmaceutical industry has so many of our politicians in their pockets. It's pretty obvious when you think about how medically advanced we are but yet in general we are unhealthier then we have every been. It's pretty obvious what we've been doing the past 15 or 20 years has not been working. Just look at how many people are on antidepressants and how it is only getting worse. We need to get to the root of the problem and it sure as heck is not take more pills.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Oh well if Biden said that one time, it definitely negates all of the guidance from public health officials and all of the very public discussions comparing the different vaccines and their efficacy. No way this would be a narrative pushed by bad faith idiots who ignored all of the guidance anyway
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The problem was the covid vax was advertised and touted as effective as proven vaccines with decades of results.
 
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TheDeeble said:
Has the vaccine schedule or the ingredients changed over the past 30-40 years? I don't have kids so I never looked into what it was, but it was more shots than I realized. But the whole vaccines aren't safe thing didn't seem to blow up until like 10 years ago or something. Probably around the rising influence of social media.
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Thimerosal and other preservatives have been removed from most/all childhood vaccines. There have been additions (meningitis, HPV, rotavirus, pneumococcus, Hep A specifically, that I can think of in the past 30 years).
 
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NashVol11 said:
Oh well if Biden said that one time, it definitely negates all of the guidance from public health officials and all of the very public discussions comparing the different vaccines and their efficacy. No way this would be a narrative pushed by bad faith idiots who ignored all of the guidance anyway
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just one of many examples

“It’s as simple as black and white. You’re vaccinated, you’re safe. You’re unvaccinated, you’re at risk. Simple as that,” says Dr. Anthony Fauci. June 22, 2021
 
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VolinWayne said:
I totally agree. It's so refreshing to see somebody that pushes common sense points like diet and exercise. I feel like the pharmaceutical industry has so many of our politicians in their pockets. It's pretty obvious when you think about how medically advanced we are but yet in general we are unhealthier then we have every been. It's pretty obvious what we've been doing the past 15 or 20 years has not been working. Just look at how many people are on antidepressants and how it is only getting worse. We need to get to the root of the problem and it sure as heck is not take more pills.
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I don't really understand why anyone trusts government or the big pharma. And I certainly wouldnt trust a marriage of those two entities.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Oh well if Biden said that one time, it definitely negates all of the guidance from public health officials and all of the very public discussions comparing the different vaccines and their efficacy. No way this would be a narrative pushed by bad faith idiots who ignored all of the guidance anyway
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If it weren't for the feral government and Biden's administration forcing the covid vax on people and constantly running "misinformation" the level of distrust in proven vaccines would be nowhere near this high.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Did he say that specifically, or did he claim they received vaccination for that many specific infectious agents? I did a quick count, and (not accounting for combination vaccines), I get to 59, assuming full series of everything recommended, including 19 flu vaccines through the age of 18, not including any CV19 shots.

The only way to get close to 75 would be to count the DTaP and MMR as 3 each time.

Most practices use combinations such as DTaP-IPV-HepB, DTaP-IPV, etc, so that makes the actual number of "shots" lower.
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72 vaccines. He's started to say 76 more recently

 
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kiddiedoc said:
Which vaccines do we recommend to children that are not effective at preventing transmission/infection?
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KD, hope you know I generally respect physicians. I find most have gotten into the work for all the right reasons.

But I don't have any respect for the political bodies setting standards of care or fighting for turf for their members. And I do not trust big pharma. Seen too many recalls of "safe" stuff over the years.
 
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volinbham said:
it was advertised that way by Biden and other public officials/pundits - worse, they told people that were hesitant they were killing other people, should be fired, should be denied health care etc. all this was grounded in misinformation about the ability of the vaccine to stop transmission. Hell both Fauci and the CDC director had Covid multiple times all while shaming people and supporting sanctions against them for not following the guidelines that clearly didn't prevent them from getting the disease
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Exactly. People are still pissed...and dying. People buried their loved ones because of this bullcrap, NOT the WuFlu.
 
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McDad said:
KD, hope you know I generally respect physicians. I find most have gotten into the work for all the right reasons.

But I don't have any respect for the political bodies setting standards of care or fighting for turf for their members. And I do not trust big pharma. Seen too many recalls of "safe" stuff over the years.
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I understand

My fear is that we could start to see a resurgence in dangerous infections like HiB and Pneumococcus, which used to be the top 2 causes of infant meningitis and sepsis. Both had a VERY high mortality rate.

And the fault for many parents' choosing to not vaccinate lies squarely with those who forced CV19 shots on everyone. They won't admit it, because they don't want to accept how much harm they have caused or may cause in the future.
 
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