Recruiting Forum Football Talk IX

[Devo182]

Tot Hake: Joey is equal to, or better at running the ball than Nico.

If nothing else, I don't have to wince at every hit JA takes looking like a baby deer about to be snapped in half.

Neither is going to be Dobbs, but more than capable for sure. Eerily similar average YPCs through career. Not burners, but dangerous enough to keep defenses honest. Most important thing is making good, quick decisions when to GO, hopefully after reading the full field. EXCELLENT pass pro Saturday.

 

[Devo182]

BoT, is that you?

With their shiz basketball, baseball, WBB programs?

One-program school.

 

[Dadof2Vols]

 

[Devo182]

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Odd stats.

15/18 (83%) but only 6.7 YPA. Looks like a ton of dumpoffs/crossing routes vs an FCS nobody.

Actually don't like that, if that's their scheme. We'll need a counter if they just come out with rush-beaters. We need our rush...or go to man. WTE IK IK

 

[crazyguy]

I was in Seattle earlier this year. It was absolutely gorgeous.

Flew back last night to south Florida. Had a beer at Elysian.
Wife and I flew out for the 3 day dmb show at the Gorge. Watched the Vols on an iPad at the campsite!

 

[Devo182]

Flew back last night to south Florida. Had a beer at Elysian.
Wife and I flew out for the 3 day dmb show at the Gorge. Watched the Vols on an iPad at the campsite!
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Awesome. The Gorge in Washington?

How was he?

 

[05_never_again]

Yep...I think he has a lot of arrogance and really believed he could buck the tradition of following a legend...but this wasn't just any legend, this was the author of one of the greatest long term streaks of pure dominance in sports history he wastryingto follow.

It is going to devour him.

I think it is also possible that he had no true idea of what he was stepping into. Of course he knew who Saban was, knew they have passionate fans, knew they expect championships, etc., but this is his first real exposure to a big time, high pressure football environment as either a coach or a player. Everywhere else he's been, the school wants to win obviously but the football coach is a football coach. Now he's in a "damn, these people are crazy" fish bowl, and I mean that as a compliment. Knoxville is the same way.

You can't really think he took that job for this and not the money. Have you seen the contract it took to sign him?

It honestly wasn't for all that much more money per year than what Washington was offering, and Washington has a fraction of the pressure. From a pure monetary perspective, in order to compensate him for the added expectations, pressure, etc., Alabama would need to be paying him something like $20-25m/year, which is would obviously be insane. Perhaps he underestimated the pressure; in fact, he probably did, but he had a job that was super cush by comparison and he left it for this. Call me naive, but I think there actually was more than just money in play here.

Hopefully they won't figure out that the "Saban discount" doesn't exist anymore.

 

[Jackcrevol]

BoT, is that you?

Is that true? Thought we were their face of college athletics?

 

[Hardy]

Adidas doesn’t pay us 20mil if this “impacts” as the flagship. What else is Penn State good at? Ah that’s right, nothing

Wrestling

 

[GoBigOrange86]

Is that true? Thought we were their face of college athletics?

JRod is a known troll; I'd wait to see an actual independent source confirm it. He just likes to rile up Tennessee fans.

 

[Adam Sandler]

It’s settled

Lol no way in hedes are South Carolina and clempsum on this list

 

[Adam Sandler]

How the hell is South Carolina 12 spots better than us.

Voters like…

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People been paying more attention to twitter heisman campaigns than facts and player/roster comps

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

What I don't understand is people keep saying that Joey is not talented enough to be a GREAT quarterback...I sit there and think, the number one talent any great QB has is to find open receivers and hit them... and Joey looks like he has far more of that talent than Nico and Joe.

When you consider there were several drops...and that he didn't start learning this offense until 3 months ago...and that he didn't start physically practicing running this offense until a few WEEKS ago...and that he hasn't had hardly any practice time with his starting WRs.....it makes what he just did remarkable.

I'd like to see what he could have done with two years.

Never been happier to have been right about him! Dude is a stud.

This wasn't even his best game. Two years ago against a very comparable, maybe better Carolina team, as a big underdog in his FIRST START, he threw the ball all over them! They asked him to do way more difficult things than Heup asked of him.

We haven't seen his best yet I don't think. Especially with the more reps he and the receivers get together.

 

[RandomUTfan]

I think it is also possible that he had no true idea of what he was stepping into. Of course he knew who Saban was, knew they have passionate fans, knew they expect championships, etc., but this is his first real exposure to a big time, high pressure football environment as either a coach or a player. Everywhere else he's been, the school wants to win obviously but the football coach is a football coach. Now he's in a "damn, these people are crazy" fish bowl, and I mean that as a compliment. Knoxville is the same way.


It honestly wasn't for all that much more money per year than what Washington was offering, and Washington has a fraction of the pressure. From a pure monetary perspective, in order to compensate him for the added expectations, pressure, etc., Alabama would need to be paying him something like $20-25m/year, which is would obviously be insane. Perhaps he underestimated the pressure; in fact, he probably did, but he had a job that was super cush by comparison and he left it for this. Call me naive, but I think there actually was more than just money in play here.

Hopefully they won't figure out that the "Saban discount" doesn't exist anymore.

I don't understand why people keep arguing that a contract that's 90% guaranteed is comparable to the one he had at Washington which was absolutely not. He didn't get 70 million dollars from Washington if he failed. Greg Byrne gave him that contract.

 

[mrMet]

 

[crazyguy]

Awesome. The Gorge in Washington?

How was he?

Incredible. Played Before these crowded streets front to back on Saturday. Bella fleck was there. Great shows.

 

[Adam Sandler]

Brothers of Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia arrested during Saturday’s game

One brother was removed from the stadium for drunken behavior, while the other pushed an officer and took off running, according to police.

www.wsmv.com

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These Latino guidos definitely cut somebody in the stands.

Is one of them wearing a Tennessee poncho? This family’s story just keeps getting weirder.

 

[you]

Adidas doesn’t pay us 20mil if this “impacts” as the flagship. What else is Penn State good at? Ah that’s right, nothing

Wrestling, cream of the crop…. I know you’re gonna say it’s only a fraction of the relevance as football, amd you’d be right. However, it carries a lot of weight since they are the best by a LONG shot, and Adidas has a good presence in that market.

 

[beneVOLence]

I believe our blue chip rate is around 55%. Ohio State and Bama are around 90% for reference.

Also, Clemson won a National Championship with lowest at about a 55% blue chip ratio. That’s the reason they say you have at least a 50% ratio to be considered as a contender.

 

[you]

BoT, is that you?

Wouldn’t surprise me if that’s total Athletic department. Their wrestling program alone is worth a lot of money

 

[Adam Sandler]

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Maybeeee if the current players defect the committed players will take note?

Every night I pray for their program to collapse into vast bleakness. Then I pray to wake up in the morning to be able to see it. In that order.

 

[LaagerVol]

That's a nothing stat.

Bama and Auburn Oline's played terrible and their QBs lived outside the pocket.

Pass pro for JA was outstanding

Agree about the pass protection. Disagree it’s a nothing stat. It speaks to play design and also how quickly the QB is able to get through his progressions and pull the trigger.

 

[RandomUTfan]

Maybeeee if the current players defect the committed players will take note?

Every night I pray for their program to collapse into vast bleakness. Then I pray to wake up in the morning to be able to see it. In that order.

I suspect they will have a difficult time holding this recruiting class together.

 

[BigSteve09]

Is Penn State good at wrestling?

 

[Adam Sandler]

Their logo sucks. Sad kitten. Even looks like a Nike swoosh.