Israel vs Palestinians II

He’s not a leftist….hes just quoting Israel’s version of MSNBC

I love it when people post propaganda and preface it with, this article is from a very reputable respected Israeli newspaper when referring to Haaretz.


Ranking the media’s anti-Israel Hall of fame.​


1. Hamas (Al Jazeera)
2. Bullsh*t Broadcast Corporation (BBC)
3. All For Palestine (AFP)
4. Rewriters (Reuters)
5. Always Palestine (AP)
6. Hamasretz (Haaretz)
7. Farsi 24 (France 24)
8. Contextless Broadcast Corporation (CBC)
9. Certainly Non-neutral News (CNN)
10. OppressTV (Press TV Iran)

Honorable Mentions​

1. The Guardian (couldn’t think of a name)
2. Practically every media from the UK
3. Practically every media from Canada
4. Practically every media from France
5. Every Turkish Media
(too many to compile)
6. Every Arab Media (too many to compile)
I don’t even have to mention Iran or the UN…
 
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So Hamas steals aid, disguises as healthcare workers, rigs schools with explosives, shoots their own civilians, and the world has the audacity to blame Israel? Absolutely disgusting.

 
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If the Canadian government invaded the US murdered, raped, and kidnapped US citizens I would hope we carpet bomd the **** out of them until our hostages were returned. In this scenario Canadian children aren't more important than gaza citizens. You deserve whats coming. Do the children deserve it? No. But here we are.

Until every single hostage is released I dont care what Israel does. Their enemy isn't valuing life more than they are. Screw them.


Mine are worth more than yours.

This is a joke. They've offered all the hostages and deals were rejected. At some point, the good guys need to act like good guys and not commit genocide.

We are not occupying Canada and haven't been kicking their teeth in and taking their land for 80 years. The metaphor doesn't work without that huge fkn component.
 
This is a joke. They've offered all the hostages and deals were rejected. At some point, the good guys need to act like good guys and not commit genocide.

We are not occupying Canada and haven't been kicking their teeth in and taking their land for 80 years. The metaphor doesn't work without that huge fkn component.
False. Hamas has not offered to just release the hostages to end hostilities. They are asking for more. No dice. Bomb away. And before your panties get twisted I dont support intentional killing of civilian targets. But collateral damage is something that's Hamas should look in the mirror on. If I were Israel and senior Hamas leadership were hiding in school would I strike? Yes. As long as you have my INNOCENT civilians. My obligation is them
 
This is a joke. They've offered all the hostages and deals were rejected. At some point, the good guys need to act like good guys and not commit genocide.

We are not occupying Canada and haven't been kicking their teeth in and taking their land for 80 years. The metaphor doesn't work without that huge fkn component.
Only one side wants and tries to commit genocide, they learn it in school from a young age.

All deaths are on Hamas when they attacked Israel on October 7 2023 and continue to torture and starve the remaining hostages almost 2 years later.


 
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Only one side wants and tries to commit genocide, they learn it in school from a young age.

All deaths are on Hamas when they attacked Israel on October 7 2023 and continue to torture and starve the remaining hostages almost 2 years later.



On the bright side, the Jews who manage not to be stabbed in the heart and drown in Jewish blood, will live happily ever after under Hamas rule.
It'll be like this, everyday, except better.
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I love it when people post propaganda and preface it with, this article is from a very reputable respected Israeli newspaper when referring to Haaretz.


Ranking the media’s anti-Israel Hall of fame.​


1. Hamas (Al Jazeera)
2. Bullsh*t Broadcast Corporation (BBC)
3. All For Palestine (AFP)
4. Rewriters (Reuters)
5. Always Palestine (AP)
6. Hamasretz (Haaretz)
7. Farsi 24 (France 24)
8. Contextless Broadcast Corporation (CBC)
9. Certainly Non-neutral News (CNN)
10. OppressTV (Press TV Iran)

Honorable Mentions​

1. The Guardian (couldn’t think of a name)
2. Practically every media from the UK
3. Practically every media from Canada
4. Practically every media from France
5. Every Turkish Media
(too many to compile)
6. Every Arab Media (too many to compile)
I don’t even have to mention Iran or the UN…

Maybe if you think hard enough you’ll see why most of the media is anti Israel right now.
 
Google tells me that in 2023 there were 2.23 million people in Gaza. It also tells me that in 2025 there are 2.114 million people in Gaza. In 2 years of war, they have had approximately 100,000 killed or displaced. That is hardly a genocide in an active warzone during conflict.

In 1987, when Hamas was formed, there were 2,500 Jews living in Gaza. By 2005, that number had grown to 8,000. Now, there are none. Sounds like a pretty effective genocide to me by the Palestinians living in Gaza against the Jewish population there.

EV makes constant reference to Hamas' "Charter" not calling for genocide of Jews. He has failed to show where the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel or Israel's Basic Law calls for genocide of Palestinians.

I've been to Israel. Spent two weeks traveling there. Interestingly, I traveled with a Palestinian. Who had a family of Palestinians. Living in Israel. Even serving in the Israeli armed forces.

There is no Israeli genocide of Palestinians. There is a war in Gaza.

Jews didn’t ‘disappear’ from Gaza, Israel evacuated its own settlers in 2005. Poor attempt of constructing a false equivalence. And bragging that Palestinians exist in Israel as proof there’s no oppression is like saying racism ended in America because Obama was president. The argument collapses under the weight of its own nonsense.
The downplaying of the thousands of innocent lives is pathetic. Genocide isn’t about hitting some kill-count quota.
 
Out of curiosity, what is everyone’s rationale for why Hamas hasn’t released all of the hostages?
 
False. Hamas has not offered to just release the hostages to end hostilities. They are asking for more. No dice. Bomb away. And before your panties get twisted I dont support intentional killing of civilian targets. But collateral damage is something that's Hamas should look in the mirror on. If I were Israel and senior Hamas leadership were hiding in school would I strike? Yes. As long as you have my INNOCENT civilians. My obligation is them

What did they ask for?

How much do you actually care about the hostages if you refuse to concede anything?

To be clear, your reasoning isn't

We carpet bomb their innocents because they have our hostages.

It's

We carpet bomb their innocents because we don't want to concede anything.

But in reality, Bibi's reason is

We carpet bomb their innocents because we're taking Gaza.
 
Here's a fun trip down memory lane for the people who think this **** started on 10/7/2023

Just 3 years ago this August, Israel's Operation Breaking Dawn left 15 children dead. 5 children were killed in a cemetary explosion and initially the IDF blamed it on a failed rocket from Jihadists. Did that turn out to be the truth? Come on, man.

Not one of you would think that Palestinians would be justified in retaliating by killing 50x as many Israelis. You probably wouldn't even accept any kind of retaliation as justified.


@volfanhill

What were Palestinians justified to do in retaliation here? 15 dead children. Does Gaza have a right to defend itself, or is that just for Israel?

An oppressive military power vs. a disenfranchised people has never been the right side of history. It's not now, nor will it ever be.
 
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Huff is the gift that keeps on giving.

Thank you buddy. I’ve learned so much because of the lies that you post.

This is the description headline of the instagram post that he shared.

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THIS IS A LIE. 👆

Let’s start from the beginning.


Portman responded “I am deeply touched and humbled by this honor. I am proud of my Israeli roots and Jewish heritage; they are crucial parts of who I am. It is such a privilege to be counted among the outstanding laureates whom I admire so much. I express my heartfelt gratitude to the Genesis Prize Foundation and look forward to using the global platform it provides to make a difference in the lives of women in Israel and beyond.”


This announcement was made almost six months after Ms. Portman confirmed her attendance at the Genesis Prize ceremony.

The statements made by Ms. Portman and her representatives explaining the reasons behind the cancelation of her visit to Jerusalem inadvertently have given ammunition to a variety of groups that promote the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement targeting Israel.

The BDS movement started a propaganda campaign stating that Portman supported BDS and ran with it.



To make a long story short.
Natalie Portman: "I am not part of the BDS movement and do not endorse it. You can criticize a government without boycotting an entire nation"
BDS Movement: "Natalie Portman is one of us!"




Anyways, Here is her response. No different than what the liberals do here with Trump.
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What did they ask for?

How much do you actually care about the hostages if you refuse to concede anything?

To be clear, your reasoning isn't

We carpet bomb their innocents because they have our hostages.

It's

We carpet bomb their innocents because we don't want to concede anything.

But in reality, Bibi's reason is

We carpet bomb their innocents because we're taking Gaza.
MORE LIES AND FALSE PREMISES
 
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@volfanhill

What were Palestinians justified to do in retaliation here? 15 dead children. Does Gaza have a right to defend itself, or is that just for Israel?

An oppressive military power vs. a disenfranchised people has never been the right side of history. It's not now, nor will it ever be\

Huff thinks he can find a three year old headline behind a paywall, which he did not read, spew his hate and we will just believe him.

Not me, I researched it and i have the answers.

I could do his work for him and post all my findings, but I’ve come to realize what’s the point?

There really is no point, he doesn’t want to understand, he is just so wrapped up in his Jew hatred he can’t see anything else
 
1). What nation was disenfranchised when Israel captured Gaza in 1967, defending against multiple Arab states? Here we are exposed to Israel's challenge against charges of an illegal occupation, or occupation at all. It's an argument termed "missing sovereign". There was no sovereign state following the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire - nor since - to claim injury. There was no Palestinian government signatory regarding cessation of hostilities, or to ensure a mutual security agreement.

2) Until Israel declared independence May 14, 1948, there was no Israeli government and no Jewish military. There were Jewish militias - Irgun, Lehi, Stern, Haganah the most notable - referred to by the Arabs as 'gangs'. A population of 700K Jews was immediately attacked the next day by Arab nations numbering 40 million citizens.

Nakba, the "running off of 750,000 or so Arabs": while I think the whole presentation worth a listen, 5:50 - 16:00 speaks to the assertion of purging the Arabs, as recounted by Jewish Palestinians and Arab Palestinians. It is particularly noteworthy because it takes a look at the highly publicized militia action at the town of Deir Yassin, and causative effect on Arab flight from Palestine. It has been described as a 'massacre' and in isolation and without reference, I'd agree. That's the problem, however. The Arab-Israeli war began with the UN announcement of partition on November 29, 1947. Arab forces began rioting and waging attacks just as problematic as Deir Yassin.

Jerusalem had been cut off from all aid for about 6 months, and there began execution of a plan to reach them. Previous attempts had been stopped by attacks from roadside villages. Deir Yassin does not appear to have been one of those blockading towns and I'm not clear why it was selected for clearing, but it was. In the end, 100-110 villagers were killed, 4 Jewish militia members, and 45 or so wounded militia. Only the fringe do not acknowledge this would fit the description of war crime. Jews from a nearby village interceded forcefully, stopping the killing.

As depicted by Hazem Nusseibeh/Palestine Broadcasting Service, the decision was to make Deir Yassin a propaganda centerpiece of utmost embellishment. The desired effect was to draw Arab nations into the conflict full-force, but as he notes it was their greatest mistake. As word of the inflated incident spread like wildfire via Arab news agencies - with false rape allegations being highlighted by the Arab contributors as a specific driver - Arabs exponentially fled in higher numbers. He states they did not anticipate how our people would react, they fled all our villages. .

In addition, Mahmoud Abbas alluded to Arab leaders encouraging - even forced - Arabs to leave, that they might return in a matter of days or weeks, once the Jew was erased. And that an absence of fellow Arabs would make this easier. This is often dismissed as Israeli propaganda, but Abbas clearly states otherwise in a column for the official PLO journal Falastin al-Thawra in March 1976, writing "The Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians from the Zionist tyranny but, instead, they abandoned them, forced them to emigrate and to leave their homeland, imposed upon them a political and ideological blockade and threw them into prisons similar to the ghettos in which the Jews used to live in Eastern Europe".

I haven't looked at the claim that Jewish officials encouraged Arabs NOT to leave their homes.

And - they're just Arabs, like Jordanians, Egyptians, etc. Not even Hamas is fighting for 'a Palestinian homeland' but just more Arab land for all Arabs. The original mandate 1920 called for TransJordan to be part of Palestine and the Jewish homeland because it originally was. That was removed by Churchill in 1921.

Lastly on this note, even among 'Zionists' there were leaders who espoused living alongside the Arab; many of these were either/both religious or socialists. Even among some Arabs there were/are some who espouse the same. It's beyond me to quantify them.

All that and we're still at Gaza being not Israel and occupied territory. Are you sure there was no sovereign after WWI? Wasn't the UK put in charge?
We're also still at Zionists running Muslim and Christian Arabs off their land in the preliminaries to and the actual Arab-Israeli war of 1948. Don't forget that Zionists were attacking Arab towns before Israel declared independence.
 
Let's just take Greece, Italy, Albania, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Turkey, Lebanon, Syria, Israel, Palestine, Jordan, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco, Bosnia, Serbia, Montenegro, Slovenia, and Croatia; combine all.of them together. Make them convert to Orthodox Christianity (outlaw any other religios), put the Capital in Constantinople (or Istanbul) and call this new nation Romania, Byzantine Empire, or Roman Empire and call it a day. Bring Roman/Christian order back to the Middle East region before the Muhammad insanity crap. All of these nations were better off when they were Roman Provinces anyways.
 
All that and we're still at Gaza being not Israel and occupied territory. Are you sure there was no sovereign after WWI? Wasn't the UK put in charge?
We're also still at Zionists running Muslim and Christian Arabs off their land in the preliminaries to and the actual Arab-Israeli war of 1948. Don't forget that Zionists were attacking Arab towns before Israel declared independence.

Give Greece back Istanbul then and apologize for the ethnic genocide of Greeks in Turkey, Assyrians in Iraq, Armenians, Coptic Egyptians etc by all your Arab/Islamic cult brethren.

Why is Constantinople even a part of Turkey today?

When is Islam going to apologize for their ethnic genocides highlighted above?
 
Jews didn’t ‘disappear’ from Gaza, Israel evacuated its own settlers in 2005. Poor attempt of constructing a false equivalence.
The removal of Jews, line of whom were removed by force, was required by Palestinians as a term for, wait for it, peace.
I have been told that constitutes ethnic cleansing.
And bragging that Palestinians exist in Israel as proof there’s no oppression is like saying racism ended in America because Obama was president. The argument collapses under the weight of its own nonsense.
Oh, there is oppression. There is no genocide.

My argument only collapses when you change what I have said in order to set up said collapse.
The downplaying of the thousands of innocent lives is pathetic. Genocide isn’t about hitting some kill-count quota.
Of the lives lost, I have no idea how many are innocent, or even how many of those innocents were killed by Israel vs Hamas.

I do know I have been consistent from Day 1 that all killing is tragic, even those that are justified. I have been clear that I want all the killing to stop. Just because I understand the realities of modern warfare does not mean I want it to continue.

Quite the opposite, in fact. If Hamas were to release the hostages, surrender Gaza, and the fighters laid down their arms, I would join the chorus demanding Israel stop as well.

Aside from that, I understand why Israel is set on removing those they hold responsible for 10/7. We did that as a nation after 9/11. The wisdom of those decisions will be debated forever, but that is where we are now.

The starting point in stopping a war is for one side to commit to stop fighting. (And that usually isn’t the side that is winning.) Then, go from there.
 
False. Hamas has not offered to just release the hostages to end hostilities. They are asking for more. No dice. Bomb away. And before your panties get twisted I dont support intentional killing of civilian targets. But collateral damage is something that's Hamas should look in the mirror on. If I were Israel and senior Hamas leadership were hiding in school would I strike? Yes. As long as you have my INNOCENT civilians. My obligation is them
It’s really not that hard to understand.
You don’t attack music festivals and nursing homes, hide behind your people and get to complain when those people you hide behind get killed. Especially when Hamas has a habit of shooting their own people too.
 
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