Israel vs Palestinians II

#901
#901
🚨 BREAKING: Hamas terror squad stopped in Khan Younis

This morning, 20 armed Hamas terrorists burst out of a tunnel just meters from an IDF position. Their goal: massacre soldiers and carry out a kidnapping.

Haruv Recon fighters reacted instantly—eliminating 10 terrorists on the spot. A UAV and fighter jets joined the battle, striking the rest.

3 Israeli soldiers were lightly to moderately wounded, but thanks to their heroism, a major disaster was prevented.

The infiltration was stopped. No abduction occurred.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
I have discovered that many “libertarians” so identify as such mostly because of the desire to legalize drugs.
Some libertarians are closer to anarchists than conservatives (not all of them of course, but a not insignificant number)
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A lot of leftists want to claim libertarian because they don’t like being called what they are.
 
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#904
It’s all connected.


What’s happening in the United States < Muslim Brotherhood > What’s happening in Gaza.

 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Libertarians don’t want to squash everyone else’s liberty….or tax the **** out of people and send it all over the planet…but only to the causes he agrees with
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What are you talking about? I peek one time at your ignored BS, only to find you lying on me. You can't point to one single post I made advocating for this.

You're such a waste of time. You argue in bad faith. You can't take me head on, which is just so pathetic. You have to invent a version of me that's easy to take down because what I'm actually advocating for is much more reasonable than supporting genocide because it's your tribe.
 
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n_huffhines said:
What are you talking about? I peek one time at your ignored BS, only to find you lying on me. You can't point to one single post I made advocating for this.

You're such a waste of time. You argue in bad faith. You can't take me head on, which is just so pathetic. You have to invent a version of me that's easy to take down because what I'm actually advocating for is much more reasonable than supporting genocide because it's your tribe.
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There are probably 20 different times when he's accused me of something out of left field, I ask him to find one (1) example, and 100% of the time there are none. Ignore is the best way to handle it
 
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n_huffhines said:
What are you talking about? I peek one time at your ignored BS, only to find you lying on me. You can't point to one single post I made advocating for this.

You're such a waste of time. You argue in bad faith. You can't take me head on, which is just so pathetic. You have to invent a version of me that's easy to take down because what I'm actually advocating for is much more reasonable than supporting genocide because it's your tribe.
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Put me back on ignore you weak, spamming, propaganda spreading turd
Can’t argue in good faith? While you ignore people you can’t handle? Right. How about that biblical discussion you’ve run away from 3 times?
If you can’t remember what you say from post to post that’s on you.

I’m no longer pretending people like you are not straight trash.
 
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Smokey123 said:
Was this the same house the IDF fired a tank at with 14 hostages inside?
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Are you saying that the IDF intended to kill its own people? Like Hamas intentionally took and executed hostages?

That’s probably the wrong post for you to pick at.
There’s a very big difference between you and the Hamas supporting trash that post in this thread.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Speech in the west

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The thing I do love about Huff’s posts is doing a deep dive and discovering there is way more than meets the eye.


So outrage over peaceful protesters getting arrested, simple enough.

End of story, right?

Nope.

You discover their whole goal was to get arrested.



News from the day before the event. August 8.

This Saturday, August 9th, Palestine Action campaigners will once again be on the streets trying to provoke the police to arrest them. ​

Since July 5th, when the UK government's proscription of Palestine Action came into effect, activists around the country have been provoking their own arrests by publicly declaring support for the now illegal organisation.

Under a campaign called Lift the Ban, organisers publicise their plans in advance to ensure the police are forced to turn up. This Saturday, August 9th, will see their largest ever activity, with the campaign aiming to attract over 500 people to come and break the law. (They claim they now have over 1000 signed up.)

The Metropolitan Police say they are equally determined and will not back down. Indeed they are already preparing to ensure they have sufficient space to meet the demand.



The Myth of the 'Greater Crime'​

The implication of coupling support for Palestine Action with opposition to genocide is as sophisticated as it is dangerous. They accuse Israel of committing a genocide in Gaza and then demand not only that this should excuse their own crimes, but that anyone who doesn't agree with them is trying to 'silence' any dissent around the war.

This deceit of the genocide lie is rapidly gaining the status of common sense, yet the proof of this 'greater crime' is sorely lacking. The claims of so-called humanitarian campaign groups and 'leading genocide scholars' are little more than circular repetitions of each other, in turn repeating Hamas casualty figures.

Yet the one thing that no-one repeats is that Israel is at war with an Islamist death cult—one that has woven military infrastructure into civic life, creating hundreds of miles of tunnels underneath hospitals, schools and mosques. It's only possible to claim there is a genocide if Hamas is written from the story—something every genocide-claiming article or report you read seems more than happy to do.

The 'genocide lie' is the most significant myth around Israel's war against Hamas, since it is used to justify everything from anti-Semitic attacks on the street, to murderous chants by Kneecap and Bob Vylan, to Palestine Solidarity Campaign marches, boycotts by the Royal Opera House, cancelation of Edinburgh Fringe comedians, and of course, Palestine Action activists pouring paint into aircraft engines.



The organization that the two girls are with “Youth Demand” is a radical, pro-Palestinian group.

Here a “youth demand” member was on a show.
 
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#916
n_huffhines said:
WTF are you talking about? Not me.
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Did I name you specifically? I believe we were talking about the different types of political views within the libertarian movement in general. No names were assigned. I know nothing about your overall political positions beyond your evident unfathomable antipathy towards Israel.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Are you saying that the IDF intended to kill its own people? Like Hamas intentionally took and executed hostages?

That’s probably the wrong post for you to pick at.
There’s a very big difference between you and the Hamas supporting trash that post in this thread.
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No not that it intended to, but that doesn’t change that it did happen and is terrible. I’m not comparing the two

Hostages have been killed by the IDF on multiple occasions. People (rightly) post about the hostages and the victims but I have not seen one single post about any of those incidents or victims when the IDF is at fault. Either you care about the hostages and victims or you’re using them simply for political purpose
 
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#918
Zionist Holds “Audition” for Pro-Hamas Rally (Exposes Them With Hidden Camera)

On one hand this was super funny but on the other it’s a sad reality on how America is in trouble.

All these people knew they were being filmed.


Comedian Lyle Culpepper
 
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Smokey123 said:
No not that it intended to, but that doesn’t change that it did happen and is terrible. I’m not comparing the two

Hostages have been killed by the IDF on multiple occasions. People (rightly) post about the hostages and the victims but I have not seen one single post about any of those incidents or victims when the IDF is at fault. Either you care about the hostages and victims or you’re using them simply for political purpose
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Hold on.
3 hostages escaped and were shot by the IDF.
I’m pretty sure that wasn’t covered up in any way.
The guy who pulled the trigger was distraught. He’s got to live with that forever. He also has to live with trash like the dipsticks here saying he did it intentionally
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Hold on.
3 hostages escaped and were shot by the IDF.
I’m pretty sure that wasn’t covered up in any way.
The guy who pulled the trigger was distraught. He’s got to live with that forever. He also has to live with trash like the dipsticks here saying he did it intentionally
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I thought he was the one person that was kind of in the middle with views on the conflict, but I’m starting to think that may not be the case.
 
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MAD said:
I thought he was the one person that was kind of in the middle with views on the conflict, but I’m starting to think that may not be the case.
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I think Smokey has valid points and has a slightly different perspective or point of view. I don’t always agree with him but he’s consistent and capable of a conversation. He’s also capable of saying “I disagree but see what you’re saying “.
I take no offense from him.

Edit: for example in my question to him he gave a quick yes/no response and explained his position. That’s what it looks like when you have a standard that you adhere to as opposed to ………
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Hold on.
3 hostages escaped and were shot by the IDF.
I’m pretty sure that wasn’t covered up in any way.
The guy who pulled the trigger was distraught. He’s got to live with that forever. He also has to live with trash like the dipsticks here saying he did it intentionally
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I’m not saying it was covered up. I brought up that specific example as to why the “everyone’s a terrorist” rhetoric is dangerous and gets people (including Israelis) killed

Ik of 4 examples off the top of my head that Israel has admitted to killing/firing at hostages. It doesn’t make them any less tragic or condemnable just because Israel didn’t cover it up. 2 of which came from the higher up commanders not just soldier making a mistake
 
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#924
MAD said:
I thought he was the one person that was kind of in the middle with views on the conflict, but I’m starting to think that may not be the case.
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You’re right I’m not in the middle. I favor Israel’s side. Sorry my moral compass doesn’t change when someone’s wearing a Star of David
 
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#925
Smokey123 said:
I’m not saying it was covered up. I brought up that specific example as to why the “everyone’s a terrorist” rhetoric is dangerous and gets people (including Israelis) killed

Ik of 4 examples off the top of my head that Israel has admitted to killing/firing at hostages. It doesn’t make them any less tragic or condemnable just because Israel didn’t cover it up. 2 of which came from the higher up commanders not just soldier making a mistake
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Friendly fire happens.
We are more aware of it in this conflict. People would be shocked at how many times we shot our own in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Agree that it’s still tragic. I just want to be clear that there’s a huge difference between accidental shootings in a war zone and targeted civilians kidnapped, held hostage, starved for years, and executed.
 
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