'26 VA RB Savion Hiter (Michigan commit)

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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
Are you arguing that guys 78-85 on the roster ever make an impact? Because they don’t.
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Not in year one, typically, no. But guys like Desean Bishop, Jabari Small, Will Brooks, Jayson Jenkins, Kalib Perry, Jeremiah Telander, Jesse Perry were all in that range the day they stepped on campus. Then they showed they were willing to work hard, show off their talent, put in the time and wait their turn, and they earned their spot.
 
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Relationships mattered with David Sanders, Rouse and others. Same can also true for Hiter and Michigan. More pressure on Duane Morris, Bishop, P Lew
 
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Ericvol2096 said:
At the time I sent this, we were in a great spot. Not sure if it was all just a play for
Him to get more from Michigan and he was just playing us all along. But shortly after this everything shifted in early August.

AP yesterday

Actually for two weeks in July he went quiet on the Michigan staff. At that point he was coming here and then he reengaged Michigan.
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He played last minute games and we said no thanks? We must really like our roster and feel confident none of them will hit the portal. Bit risky. I would presume now we’re hitting the portal or signing at least 2 next cycle.
 
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I got the scoop. It’s medium boring. He was all Michigan until July. He grew close to a few of our players, and talked to them often. He loved being drivable to home and had a connection with Heuple and DeRaill. He started to second guess his decision to go to Michigan. His agent asked him if he wanted to do one more meeting with us to find out if he was making the right choice. He did. It went great. After that meeting he told our coaches he wanted to be a Vol. We changed our NIL structure to line up with the one Michigan offered. At this point, staff, others believed he was rock solid to us. A few days after my post AP said he believed we had the momentum. He told Michigan he was coming here and cut off talking with them. His mother was getting calls from Michigan and she vented to the coaches and said her son’s decision was not final and she didn’t appreciate people saying it was. He and his agent would not answer calls from Michigan. Sherrone kept on him and something happened in the last two weeks. I assume more money was offered, but don’t know. At this point he went silent with us. His agent kept talking to us, but it started to feel grim. I think his agent believed that this was the best destination for him and kept lines open, but somehow Michigan convinced the family otherwise. It’s a bummer, but I think we did everything we could. It doesn’t always go your way.
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
I got the scoop. It’s medium boring. He was all Michigan until July. He grew close to a few of our players, and talked to them often. He loved being drivable to home and had a connection with Heuple and DeRaill. He started to second guess his decision to go to Michigan. His agent asked him if he wanted to do one more meeting with us to find out if he was making the right choice. He did. It went great. After that meeting he told our coaches he wanted to be a Vol. We changed our NIL structure to line up with the one Michigan offered. At this point, staff, others believed he was rock solid to us. A few days after my post AP said he believed we had the momentum. He told Michigan he was coming here and cut off talking with them. His mother was getting calls from Michigan and she vented to the coaches and said her son’s decision was not final and she didn’t appreciate people saying it was. He and his agent would not answer calls from Michigan. Sherrone kept on him and something happened in the last two weeks. I assume more money was offered, but don’t know. At this point he went silent with us. His agent kept talking to us, but it started to feel grim. I think his agent believed that this was the best destination for him and kept lines open, but somehow Michigan convinced the family otherwise. It’s a bummer, but I think we did everything we could. It doesn’t always go your way.
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I personally don’t think it’s over with. Anything can happen. It’s August but we will see
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
I got the scoop. It’s medium boring. He was all Michigan until July. He grew close to a few of our players, and talked to them often. He loved being drivable to home and had a connection with Heuple and DeRaill. He started to second guess his decision to go to Michigan. His agent asked him if he wanted to do one more meeting with us to find out if he was making the right choice. He did. It went great. After that meeting he told our coaches he wanted to be a Vol. We changed our NIL structure to line up with the one Michigan offered. At this point, staff, others believed he was rock solid to us. A few days after my post AP said he believed we had the momentum. He told Michigan he was coming here and cut off talking with them. His mother was getting calls from Michigan and she vented to the coaches and said her son’s decision was not final and she didn’t appreciate people saying it was. He and his agent would not answer calls from Michigan. Sherrone kept on him and something happened in the last two weeks. I assume more money was offered, but don’t know. At this point he went silent with us. His agent kept talking to us, but it started to feel grim. I think his agent believed that this was the best destination for him and kept lines open, but somehow Michigan convinced the family otherwise. It’s a bummer, but I think we did everything we could. It doesn’t always go your way.
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I wonder how many recruits wanted to be here and the people in their inner circle prevailed. Sad when family, handlers, agents, etc. prevent a kid from playing at the school he wants to be at.
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
Where did Will Brooks start out?
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cncchris33 said:
Not in year one, typically, no. But guys like Desean Bishop, Jabari Small, Will Brooks, Jayson Jenkins, Kalib Perry, Jeremiah Telander, Jesse Perry were all in that range the day they stepped on campus. Then they showed they were willing to work hard, show off their talent, put in the time and wait their turn, and they earned their spot.
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You can’t name scholarship players as evidence that scholarship reductions had an impact on the program. Show me a walk on who left here and succeeded elsewhere on scholarship or a guy we were 50/50 on offering a scholarship who went elsewhere and had success, then maybe you’d have a case. But naming a bunch of guys who were given scholarships as proof that scholarship penalties hurt us is nonsensical. Brooks played here his whole career, so clearly his lack of a scholarship initially didn’t hurt us either.
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
I got the scoop. It’s medium boring. He was all Michigan until July. He grew close to a few of our players, and talked to them often. He loved being drivable to home and had a connection with Heuple and DeRaill. He started to second guess his decision to go to Michigan. His agent asked him if he wanted to do one more meeting with us to find out if he was making the right choice. He did. It went great. After that meeting he told our coaches he wanted to be a Vol. We changed our NIL structure to line up with the one Michigan offered. At this point, staff, others believed he was rock solid to us. A few days after my post AP said he believed we had the momentum. He told Michigan he was coming here and cut off talking with them. His mother was getting calls from Michigan and she vented to the coaches and said her son’s decision was not final and she didn’t appreciate people saying it was. He and his agent would not answer calls from Michigan. Sherrone kept on him and something happened in the last two weeks. I assume more money was offered, but don’t know. At this point he went silent with us. His agent kept talking to us, but it started to feel grim. I think his agent believed that this was the best destination for him and kept lines open, but somehow Michigan convinced the family otherwise. It’s a bummer, but I think we did everything we could. It doesn’t always go your way.
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Maybe, but I think if Michigan would have got the punishment they clearly deserved, he would have been a VOL.;)
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
I personally don’t think it’s over with. Anything can happen. It’s August but we will see
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Could easily be another Brame recruitment. That’s another thing I love about our coaches…they don’t burn bridges. They keep lines of communication open, and then sometimes things happen that work out in our favor. You never know…Michigan may appeal the NCAA decision, then get hit with smaller fine but more punishment, like scholly reductions.
 
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Sugaray13 said:
I wonder how many recruits wanted to be here and the people in their inner circle prevailed. Sad when family, handlers, agents, etc. prevent a kid from playing at the school he wants to be at.
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So many influences on kids these days with all of this money legally being thrown around.
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
I got the scoop. It’s medium boring. He was all Michigan until July. He grew close to a few of our players, and talked to them often. He loved being drivable to home and had a connection with Heuple and DeRaill. He started to second guess his decision to go to Michigan. His agent asked him if he wanted to do one more meeting with us to find out if he was making the right choice. He did. It went great. After that meeting he told our coaches he wanted to be a Vol. We changed our NIL structure to line up with the one Michigan offered. At this point, staff, others believed he was rock solid to us. A few days after my post AP said he believed we had the momentum. He told Michigan he was coming here and cut off talking with them. His mother was getting calls from Michigan and she vented to the coaches and said her son’s decision was not final and she didn’t appreciate people saying it was. He and his agent would not answer calls from Michigan. Sherrone kept on him and something happened in the last two weeks. I assume more money was offered, but don’t know. At this point he went silent with us. His agent kept talking to us, but it started to feel grim. I think his agent believed that this was the best destination for him and kept lines open, but somehow Michigan convinced the family otherwise. It’s a bummer, but I think we did everything we could. It doesn’t always go your way.
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I believe this series of events, and it pretty much lined up with how APs posts evolved exactly. I’m just surprised that the agent was pro UT since he has Michigan ties.
 
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Sugaray13 said:
I wonder how many recruits wanted to be here and the people in their inner circle prevailed. Sad when family, handlers, agents, etc. prevent a kid from playing at the school he wants to be at.
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Used to happen all the time when @de1conley was involved and needed help paying his rent.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
You can’t name scholarship players as evidence that scholarship reductions had an impact on the program. Show me a walk on who left here and succeeded elsewhere on scholarship or a guy we were 50/50 on offering a scholarship who went elsewhere and had success, then maybe you’d have a case. But naming a bunch of guys who were given scholarships as proof that scholarship penalties hurt us is nonsensical. Brooks played here his whole career, so clearly his lack of a scholarship initially didn’t hurt us either.
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You are moving the goalposts. I didn't reply to a post about scholarship reductions having an impact on the program. I responded to your claim that scholarships 78-85 never make an impact.

Those scholarship players I named were end of the roster types when they arrived on campus. If you eliminate 5 or 6 scholarships per year for 5 years, those are the kinds of guys you may end up sacrificing, which refutes your claim that scholarships 78-85 are useless and never produce results. They probably don't in year 1, but they certainly can down the road after maturation. Like a long-term mutual fund or your 401k. The results aren't seen overnight. They are an investment in the future. If you simply approach it on a year-by-year basis, sure, your point holds. But that isn't how it works in reality.
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
Could easily be another Brame recruitment. That’s another thing I love about our coaches…they don’t burn bridges. They keep lines of communication open, and then sometimes things happen that work out in our favor. You never know…Michigan may appeal the NCAA decision, then get hit with smaller fine but more punishment, like scholly reductions.
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Like I think I said elsewhere, NOT schollie reductions but ROSTER SPOTS. You can end up with 105 with creative financing including but not limited to NIL.

Reduction of SHARING money would be better too. Combination the most effective punishment.
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
I got the scoop. It’s medium boring. He was all Michigan until July. He grew close to a few of our players, and talked to them often. He loved being drivable to home and had a connection with Heuple and DeRaill. He started to second guess his decision to go to Michigan. His agent asked him if he wanted to do one more meeting with us to find out if he was making the right choice. He did. It went great. After that meeting he told our coaches he wanted to be a Vol. We changed our NIL structure to line up with the one Michigan offered. At this point, staff, others believed he was rock solid to us. A few days after my post AP said he believed we had the momentum. He told Michigan he was coming here and cut off talking with them. His mother was getting calls from Michigan and she vented to the coaches and said her son’s decision was not final and she didn’t appreciate people saying it was. He and his agent would not answer calls from Michigan. Sherrone kept on him and something happened in the last two weeks. I assume more money was offered, but don’t know. At this point he went silent with us. His agent kept talking to us, but it started to feel grim. I think his agent believed that this was the best destination for him and kept lines open, but somehow Michigan convinced the family otherwise. It’s a bummer, but I think we did everything we could. It doesn’t always go your way.
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Ahhh I see now...it was his momma's decison not the young man's. Sad. He was ready to shut it down and come to Knoxville....stopped taking calls from UM along with his agent....but momma felt like she should have the final say and not let her son make his decision on HIS future. smh.
 
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SKV84 said:
Ahhh I see now...it was his momma's decison not the young man's. Sad. He was ready to shut it down and come to Knoxville....stopped taking calls from UM along with his agent....but momma felt like she should have the final say and not let her son make his decision on HIS future. smh.
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I noticed she looked more excited than he did when he picked up the Michigan hat.
 
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