Jefferey Epstein found dead in jail cell

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Majors said:
I can tell by your statement, you’re upset the bullet missed.
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No.

(1) Given that Donald was "Epstein's best friend for 10 years" (per Epstein), Donald obviously should be on the list of those subpoenaed. He's not, of course, because it's pure political ******** targeting Democrats and those that worked for Trump who now hate him and rail against him; and

(2) I despise Trump, so my comment about his lack of brain function addresses the fact that he's a moron... which honestly is a misnomer on my part. In truth, Donald J. Trump is a highly-manipulative, self-serving, lying, misogynistic, arrogant, xenophobic malignant narcissistic demagogue that I put high on the shelf of examples of what I pray my children and grandchildren will never emulate. He is a cancer on our nation and knows only how to destroy, not build.

Those that support him now will - without question - go down on the wrong side of history.

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lawgator1 said:
I admit my motivation in wanting it all released is because I believe Trump is in there. The evidence is in the way this has evolved and we KNOW he is in there at some level. Bondi told him that. We just don't know to what extent.
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There are probably many names in the files that did not participate in anything unsavory or illegal.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
There is not a federal SOL on child sex crimes.....so that's a BS argument..just admit you only care because you think in might hurt Trump. Even tho there is ZERO evidence...
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Zero evidence of what?

Bondi admitted Trump is named on multiple occasions in the Epstein files. Trump previously promised he would release them. Yet now he won't.

I defer to @lawgator1 but this certainly amounts to more than zero evidence.

For the umpteenth time, why not release the Epstein files if they show nothing?
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
And there might be as many names from both sides of the aisle who participated in the activities with the girls.
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True… I still think Epstein was some sort of agent whose sole purpose was to obtain information for extortion and blackmail purposes. For who? I have no idea and my theory is anorexically thin
 
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MontyPython said:
No.

(1) Given that Donald was "Epstein's best friend for 10 years" (per Epstein), Donald obviously should be on the list of those subpoenaed. He's not, of course, because it's pure political ******** targeting Democrats and those that worked for Trump who now hate him and rail against him; and

(2) I despise Trump, so my comment about his lack of brain function addresses the fact that he's a moron... which honestly is a misnomer on my part. In truth, Donald J. Trump is a highly-manipulative, self-serving, lying, misogynistic, arrogant, xenophobic malignant narcissistic demagogue that I put high on the shelf of examples of what I pray my children and grandchildren will never emulate. He is a cancer on our nation and knows only how to destroy, not build.

Those that support him now will - without question - go down on the wrong side of history.
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Those chirping now seem to let history pass them by. Until the generated new fake rage began. Guess you’re on the wrong side too.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
True… I still think Epstein was some sort of agent whose sole purpose was to obtain information for extortion and blackmail purposes. For who? I have no idea and my theory is anorexically thin
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That story has some legs but some who have intelligence experience are scoffing at it. It's obvious though, that it's being held back for some compelling reason. If it's not because of who participated then the agent angle is a legitimate alternative
 
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Majors said:
Those chirping now seem to let history pass them by. Until the generated new fake rage began. Guess you’re on the wrong side too.
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Heh. Hardly.

If and when Trump eventually pulls his attempt to become the autocrat he so openly craves, I'll be lined up with the good guys to protect our Democracy.
 
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MontyPython said:
Zero evidence of what?

Bondi admitted Trump is named on multiple occasions in the Epstein files. Trump previously promised he would release them. Yet now he won't.

I defer to @lawgator1 but this certainly amounts to more than zero evidence.

For the umpteenth time, why not release the Epstein files if they show nothing?
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Evidence that trump involved with the island. There is 4 different people staying such. Yea they were friends..yea Trump helped the police with Epstein...Epstein thought Trump was the rat...all of that along with Guthrie, quotes, Maxwell..ilis his name in the file . absolutely..doesn't mean he is guilty of anything like you sick freaks want him to be.

Edit:: it also hilarious that there are zero posts of you calling for the release of the Epstein list before this thread..even tho you comment a few times about Epstein not killing himself.. obviously you were so worried about the list that during Biden 4 years you didn't mention crap..your garbage to the extreme turbo
 
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lawgator1 said:
I admit my motivation in wanting it all released is because I believe Trump is in there. The evidence is in the way this has evolved and we KNOW he is in there at some level. Bondi told him that. We just don't know to what extent.
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Yea he WAS friends..so of course anyone associated will be there .it doesn't mean he did what your hoping he did..that's just your sick partisan hack fantasy. You didn't care about it till you could use it for political gains..that's disgusting
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Evidence that trump involved with the island. There is 4 different people staying such. Yea they were friends..yea Trump helped the police with Epstein...Epstein thought Trump was the rat...all of that along with Guthrie, quotes, Maxwell..ilis his name in the file . absolutely..doesn't mean he is guilty of anything like you sick freaks want him to be.

Edit:: it also hilarious that there are zero posts of you calling for the release of the Epstein list before this thread..even tho you comment a few times about Epstein not killing himself.. obviously you were so worried about the list that during Biden 4 years you didn't mention crap..your garbage to the extreme turbo
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Mkay. So you claim there's nothing there... Why not release the files then?

Did you vote for Trump? He promised you that he'd release the Epstein files, yet now he won't.

Rationalize away... Make more excuses for the Orange Menace.
 
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MontyPython said:
Mkay. So you claim there's nothing there... Why not release the files then?

Did you vote for Trump? He promised you that he'd release the Epstein files, yet now he won't.

Rationalize away... Make more excuses for the Orange Menace.
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That's a great question....yes I did vote for him...and he has 3 1/2 more years to keep that promise and release them....maybe you should asked why the previous admin didn't or why the Obama judge are blocking the release of the Grand jury?? Especially since the judge stated most of the info was public already...similarly that's what Trump's admin said...is that an acceptable excuse for either party?? For me nope..redact victims and release..but I suspect for a partisan hack like you who just started caring about it..your don't feel the same.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
That's a great question....yes I did vote for him...and he has 3 1/2 more years to keep that promise and release them....maybe you should asked why the previous admin didn't or why the Obama judge are blocking the release of the Grand jury?? Especially since the judge stated most of the info was public already...similarly that's what Trump's admin said...is that an acceptable excuse for either party?? For me nope..redact victims and release..but I suspect for a partisan hack like you who just started caring about it..your don't feel the same.
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Yep, I'm a registered Independent party hack. GO SWITZERLAND!

Your question about Biden not releasing the files seems legit. Grok says..

The question of why President Biden didn’t release the Jeffrey Epstein files during his presidency involves a mix of legal, procedural, and political factors, based on available information. Here’s a clear breakdown:

**Legal and Procedural Barriers**: The Epstein files, which include grand jury testimony, FBI and DOJ investigative materials, and other evidence, are subject to strict legal constraints. Grand jury testimony is typically kept secret to protect witnesses, informants, and ongoing investigations, and can only be released under exceptional circumstances with court approval. During Biden’s term, the files were largely sealed by judicial order, particularly until after Ghislaine Maxwell’s trial concluded in 2021, with appeals ongoing into 2024. Releasing them unilaterally would have been legally challenging, as the executive branch cannot override judicial decisions. Additionally, releasing sensitive files could compromise ongoing investigations or expose victims, which the Justice Department cited as a reason for withholding them.[](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/why-didn-t-biden-release-224000723.html)[](https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/biden-epstein-files-release-76459f)[](https://govfacts.org/analysis/can-a-president-block-the-release-of-epstein-court-documents/)

**Political Considerations**: The Epstein case is politically charged, with speculation about powerful figures potentially implicated. Biden’s administration may have avoided releasing the files to prevent accusations of weaponizing the DOJ against political rivals, particularly given the presence of names like Donald Trump in the documents. Conversely, if the files contained damaging information about Democrats, there could be political incentives to avoid release, though no direct evidence supports this. The DOJ’s February 2024 release of about 4,000 pages, including some names, suggests some transparency efforts, but these were limited and court-managed.[](http://edition.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/epstein-files-why-werent-they)[](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/why-didn-t-biden-release-224000723.html)[](http://edition.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/epstein-files-why-werent-they)

**Justice Department’s Stance**: The DOJ under Biden pursued the Maxwell prosecution, indicating active engagement with the case. However, after a February 2024 release, the DOJ announced no further disclosures, stating there was no “incriminating client list” or additional material warranting public release. This decision sparked criticism, particularly from those expecting more transparency, but it aligns with standard practices to protect investigations and privacy.[](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/why-didn-t-biden-release-224000723.html)[](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/why-didn-t-biden-release-224000723.html)[](http://edition.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/epstein-files-why-werent-they)

**Democratic Actions and Silence**: Some Democrats, like Reps. Lois Frankel and Debbie Wasserman Schultz, pushed for transparency as early as 2019, focusing on Epstein’s 2008 plea deal and related records. However, public calls for releasing the full files quieted after Biden took office, possibly due to concerns about compromising the Maxwell case or victim privacy. Rep. Jamie Raskin noted that Biden’s DOJ was not suppressing information, as it actively prosecuted Maxwell, countering claims of inaction. Still, no prominent Democrat provided a definitive public statement explaining the decision not to push harder for full release, leaving room for speculation.[](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/6/fact-check-did-democrats-take-action-over-epstein-case-transparency)[](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/6/fact-check-did-democrats-take-action-over-epstein-case-transparency)[](https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/93110/what-public-statements-did-the-democrats-make-about-why-they-did-not-release-the)

**Critical Perspective**: The lack of transparency fuels distrust, especially given the case’s high profile and the involvement of influential figures. While legal barriers are real, the Biden administration’s restraint could also reflect caution about political fallout or protecting institutional interests. The absence of clear public explanations from Biden or top officials adds to perceptions of secrecy, whether justified or not.[](http://edition.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/epstein-files-why-werent-they)[](https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/93110/what-public-statements-did-the-democrats-make-about-why-they-did-not-release-the)

In summary, Biden didn’t release the Epstein files primarily due to legal restrictions, including judicial oversight and the need to protect ongoing investigations or victim privacy. Political dynamics likely played a role, as releasing the files could have been seen as partisan or risky. While some documents were released in 2024, the full files remained sealed, and the administration’s limited communication on the issue left questions unanswered. For more details on current efforts, you might check court updates or DOJ statements on the Epstein case.[](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/why-didn-t-biden-release-224000723.html)[](https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/biden-epstein-files-release-76459f)[](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/6/fact-check-did-democrats-take-action-over-epstein-case-transparency)
 
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MontyPython said:
Yep, I'm a registered Independent party hack. GO SWITZERLAND!

Your question about Biden not releasing the files seems legit. Grok says..

The question of why President Biden didn’t release the Jeffrey Epstein files during his presidency involves a mix of legal, procedural, and political factors, based on available information. Here’s a clear breakdown:

**Legal and Procedural Barriers**: The Epstein files, which include grand jury testimony, FBI and DOJ investigative materials, and other evidence, are subject to strict legal constraints. Grand jury testimony is typically kept secret to protect witnesses, informants, and ongoing investigations, and can only be released under exceptional circumstances with court approval. During Biden’s term, the files were largely sealed by judicial order, particularly until after Ghislaine Maxwell’s trial concluded in 2021, with appeals ongoing into 2024. Releasing them unilaterally would have been legally challenging, as the executive branch cannot override judicial decisions. Additionally, releasing sensitive files could compromise ongoing investigations or expose victims, which the Justice Department cited as a reason for withholding them.[](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/why-didn-t-biden-release-224000723.html)[](https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/biden-epstein-files-release-76459f)[](https://govfacts.org/analysis/can-a-president-block-the-release-of-epstein-court-documents/)

**Political Considerations**: The Epstein case is politically charged, with speculation about powerful figures potentially implicated. Biden’s administration may have avoided releasing the files to prevent accusations of weaponizing the DOJ against political rivals, particularly given the presence of names like Donald Trump in the documents. Conversely, if the files contained damaging information about Democrats, there could be political incentives to avoid release, though no direct evidence supports this. The DOJ’s February 2024 release of about 4,000 pages, including some names, suggests some transparency efforts, but these were limited and court-managed.[](http://edition.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/epstein-files-why-werent-they)[](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/why-didn-t-biden-release-224000723.html)[](http://edition.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/epstein-files-why-werent-they)

**Justice Department’s Stance**: The DOJ under Biden pursued the Maxwell prosecution, indicating active engagement with the case. However, after a February 2024 release, the DOJ announced no further disclosures, stating there was no “incriminating client list” or additional material warranting public release. This decision sparked criticism, particularly from those expecting more transparency, but it aligns with standard practices to protect investigations and privacy.[](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/why-didn-t-biden-release-224000723.html)[](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/why-didn-t-biden-release-224000723.html)[](http://edition.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/epstein-files-why-werent-they)

**Democratic Actions and Silence**: Some Democrats, like Reps. Lois Frankel and Debbie Wasserman Schultz, pushed for transparency as early as 2019, focusing on Epstein’s 2008 plea deal and related records. However, public calls for releasing the full files quieted after Biden took office, possibly due to concerns about compromising the Maxwell case or victim privacy. Rep. Jamie Raskin noted that Biden’s DOJ was not suppressing information, as it actively prosecuted Maxwell, countering claims of inaction. Still, no prominent Democrat provided a definitive public statement explaining the decision not to push harder for full release, leaving room for speculation.[](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/6/fact-check-did-democrats-take-action-over-epstein-case-transparency)[](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/6/fact-check-did-democrats-take-action-over-epstein-case-transparency)[](https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/93110/what-public-statements-did-the-democrats-make-about-why-they-did-not-release-the)

**Critical Perspective**: The lack of transparency fuels distrust, especially given the case’s high profile and the involvement of influential figures. While legal barriers are real, the Biden administration’s restraint could also reflect caution about political fallout or protecting institutional interests. The absence of clear public explanations from Biden or top officials adds to perceptions of secrecy, whether justified or not.[](http://edition.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/epstein-files-why-werent-they)[](https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/93110/what-public-statements-did-the-democrats-make-about-why-they-did-not-release-the)

In summary, Biden didn’t release the Epstein files primarily due to legal restrictions, including judicial oversight and the need to protect ongoing investigations or victim privacy. Political dynamics likely played a role, as releasing the files could have been seen as partisan or risky. While some documents were released in 2024, the full files remained sealed, and the administration’s limited communication on the issue left questions unanswered. For more details on current efforts, you might check court updates or DOJ statements on the Epstein case.[](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/why-didn-t-biden-release-224000723.html)[](https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/biden-epstein-files-release-76459f)[](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/6/fact-check-did-democrats-take-action-over-epstein-case-transparency)
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TRUMP doj has not released the Epstein files primarily due to legal restrictions, including judicial blocks and the need to protect ongoing investigations or victim privacy.
There feel.better.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
TRUMP doj has not released the Epstein files primarily due to legal restrictions, including judicial blocks and the need to protect ongoing investigations or victim privacy.
There feel.better.
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Hmmm... we're "legal restrictions" really the reason that Trump gave for not releasing the Epstein files?

President Donald Trump provided several explanations for not releasing the Jeffrey Epstein files, primarily through public statements and posts on Truth Social, as reported by various sources. Here’s a concise summary of his stated reasons and the context surrounding them:

1. **Claim of a "Democratic Hoax"**: Trump repeatedly described the Epstein files as a fabrication or exaggeration by Democrats, suggesting they were created or manipulated by figures like Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and former FBI Director James Comey to mislead the public. He argued that the files lacked credible evidence and were being used to distract from other issues. For instance, on Truth Social, he wrote that the files were “written by Obama, Crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan, and the Losers and Criminals of the Biden Administration,” implying they were politically motivated and not worth releasing.[](https://x.com/ggreenwald/status/1953456702038200826)[](https://www.indiatoday.in/world/us-news/story/why-donald-trump-not-releasing-jeffrey-epstein-files-us-politics-obama-democrats-maga-ghislaine-maxwell-pam-bondi-elon-musk-2756040-2025-07-15)

2. **No Incriminating Evidence**: Trump echoed the Justice Department’s July 7, 2025, memo, which stated there was no “incriminating client list” or evidence justifying further investigation into third parties. He suggested that if damaging information existed, Democrats would have released it during their control of the White House and Senate (2021–2025), implying the files contained nothing significant. He wrote on Truth Social, “If there was a ‘smoking gun’ on Epstein, why didn’t the Dems… use it? BECAUSE THEY HAD NOTHING!!!”[](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5408202-donald-trump-democrats-jeffrey-epstein-files/)[](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/they-had-nothing-donald-trump-questions-why-democrats-didnt-release-epstein-files-if-it-is-smoking-gun-is-us-president-planning-to-publish-it/articleshow/122767153.cms)

3. **Protecting Innocent People**: Trump expressed concern that releasing the files could unfairly harm individuals named in them who were not involved in Epstein’s crimes. In a 2024 campaign interview, he suggested the files might contain “phony stuff” that could “affect people’s lives” unjustly. Commentator Bill O’Reilly, after speaking with Trump, reinforced this, stating that Trump worried about “destroying” innocent people named without context.[](https://www.indiatoday.in/world/us-news/story/why-donald-trump-not-releasing-jeffrey-epstein-files-us-politics-obama-democrats-maga-ghislaine-maxwell-pam-bondi-elon-musk-2756040-2025-07-15)[](https://www.kpbs.org/news/politics/2025/07/25/how-and-why-trump-has-struggled-in-dealing-with-the-epstein-files)

4. **Downplaying the Issue’s Importance**: Trump dismissed the Epstein case as a distraction from more pressing matters, calling it “sordid and uninteresting” and urging supporters to “move on.” He referred to Epstein as a “creep” and suggested the public’s focus on the files was fueled by conspiracy theories, not substance. At a cabinet meeting, he called the ongoing discussion a “desecration” amid issues like Texas flooding.[](https://www.indiatoday.in/world/us-news/story/why-donald-trump-not-releasing-jeffrey-epstein-files-us-politics-obama-democrats-maga-ghislaine-maxwell-pam-bondi-elon-musk-2756040-2025-07-15)[](https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-calls-epstein-files-released-troublemakers/story?id=123890604)

5. **Legal and Procedural Constraints**: While Trump didn’t emphasize this as much, the Justice Department’s memo cited legal reasons for not releasing more files, including court orders sealing much of the material to protect victims and the lack of evidence warranting further disclosure. Trump’s directive to release grand jury testimony was subject to court approval, indicating he acknowledged some legal limits.[](https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/jul/08/timeline-trump-admin-epstein-files-release/)[](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-facing-maga-uproar-epstein-files-shift-blame/story?id=123833646)

**Context and Critical Perspective**: Trump’s explanations shifted over time, especially after reports surfaced that Attorney General Pam Bondi briefed him in May 2025 that his name appeared in the files, though not necessarily tied to wrongdoing. His earlier campaign promises to release the files, alongside statements from allies like Bondi and Kash Patel about transparency, contrast with his later dismissal of the issue. Critics, including some MAGA supporters, argue this reversal suggests an intent to avoid scrutiny, given his documented social ties to Epstein in the 1990s, including multiple flights on Epstein’s plane. However, no public evidence directly links Trump to Epstein’s crimes, and his defenders argue he’s protecting privacy and avoiding a political trap. The lack of consistent messaging and the DOJ’s conclusion that no client list exists have fueled ongoing speculation and distrust.[](https://www.kpbs.org/news/politics/2025/07/25/how-and-why-trump-has-struggled-in-dealing-with-the-epstein-files)[](https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/24/politics/trump-epstein-files-pivot-timeline)[](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-to-know-about-the-dismissal-of-the-epstein-files-by-trumps-justice-department)

For further details, you can review Trump’s Truth Social posts or DOJ statements from July 2025.[](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-to-know-about-the-dismissal-of-the-epstein-files-by-trumps-justice-department)[](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5408202-donald-trump-democrats-jeffrey-epstein-files/)[](https://www.indiatoday.in/world/us-news/story/why-donald-trump-not-releasing-jeffrey-epstein-files-us-politics-obama-democrats-maga-ghislaine-maxwell-pam-bondi-elon-musk-2756040-2025-07-15)
 
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MontyPython said:
Hmmm... we're "legal restrictions" really the reason that Trump gave for not releasing the Epstein files?

President Donald Trump provided several explanations for not releasing the Jeffrey Epstein files, primarily through public statements and posts on Truth Social, as reported by various sources. Here’s a concise summary of his stated reasons and the context surrounding them:

1. **Claim of a "Democratic Hoax"**: Trump repeatedly described the Epstein files as a fabrication or exaggeration by Democrats, suggesting they were created or manipulated by figures like Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and former FBI Director James Comey to mislead the public. He argued that the files lacked credible evidence and were being used to distract from other issues. For instance, on Truth Social, he wrote that the files were “written by Obama, Crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan, and the Losers and Criminals of the Biden Administration,” implying they were politically motivated and not worth releasing.[](https://x.com/ggreenwald/status/1953456702038200826)[](https://www.indiatoday.in/world/us-news/story/why-donald-trump-not-releasing-jeffrey-epstein-files-us-politics-obama-democrats-maga-ghislaine-maxwell-pam-bondi-elon-musk-2756040-2025-07-15)

2. **No Incriminating Evidence**: Trump echoed the Justice Department’s July 7, 2025, memo, which stated there was no “incriminating client list” or evidence justifying further investigation into third parties. He suggested that if damaging information existed, Democrats would have released it during their control of the White House and Senate (2021–2025), implying the files contained nothing significant. He wrote on Truth Social, “If there was a ‘smoking gun’ on Epstein, why didn’t the Dems… use it? BECAUSE THEY HAD NOTHING!!!”[](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5408202-donald-trump-democrats-jeffrey-epstein-files/)[](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/they-had-nothing-donald-trump-questions-why-democrats-didnt-release-epstein-files-if-it-is-smoking-gun-is-us-president-planning-to-publish-it/articleshow/122767153.cms)

3. **Protecting Innocent People**: Trump expressed concern that releasing the files could unfairly harm individuals named in them who were not involved in Epstein’s crimes. In a 2024 campaign interview, he suggested the files might contain “phony stuff” that could “affect people’s lives” unjustly. Commentator Bill O’Reilly, after speaking with Trump, reinforced this, stating that Trump worried about “destroying” innocent people named without context.[](https://www.indiatoday.in/world/us-news/story/why-donald-trump-not-releasing-jeffrey-epstein-files-us-politics-obama-democrats-maga-ghislaine-maxwell-pam-bondi-elon-musk-2756040-2025-07-15)[](https://www.kpbs.org/news/politics/2025/07/25/how-and-why-trump-has-struggled-in-dealing-with-the-epstein-files)

4. **Downplaying the Issue’s Importance**: Trump dismissed the Epstein case as a distraction from more pressing matters, calling it “sordid and uninteresting” and urging supporters to “move on.” He referred to Epstein as a “creep” and suggested the public’s focus on the files was fueled by conspiracy theories, not substance. At a cabinet meeting, he called the ongoing discussion a “desecration” amid issues like Texas flooding.[](https://www.indiatoday.in/world/us-news/story/why-donald-trump-not-releasing-jeffrey-epstein-files-us-politics-obama-democrats-maga-ghislaine-maxwell-pam-bondi-elon-musk-2756040-2025-07-15)[](https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-calls-epstein-files-released-troublemakers/story?id=123890604)

5. **Legal and Procedural Constraints**: While Trump didn’t emphasize this as much, the Justice Department’s memo cited legal reasons for not releasing more files, including court orders sealing much of the material to protect victims and the lack of evidence warranting further disclosure. Trump’s directive to release grand jury testimony was subject to court approval, indicating he acknowledged some legal limits.[](https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/jul/08/timeline-trump-admin-epstein-files-release/)[](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-facing-maga-uproar-epstein-files-shift-blame/story?id=123833646)

**Context and Critical Perspective**: Trump’s explanations shifted over time, especially after reports surfaced that Attorney General Pam Bondi briefed him in May 2025 that his name appeared in the files, though not necessarily tied to wrongdoing. His earlier campaign promises to release the files, alongside statements from allies like Bondi and Kash Patel about transparency, contrast with his later dismissal of the issue. Critics, including some MAGA supporters, argue this reversal suggests an intent to avoid scrutiny, given his documented social ties to Epstein in the 1990s, including multiple flights on Epstein’s plane. However, no public evidence directly links Trump to Epstein’s crimes, and his defenders argue he’s protecting privacy and avoiding a political trap. The lack of consistent messaging and the DOJ’s conclusion that no client list exists have fueled ongoing speculation and distrust.[](https://www.kpbs.org/news/politics/2025/07/25/how-and-why-trump-has-struggled-in-dealing-with-the-epstein-files)[](https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/24/politics/trump-epstein-files-pivot-timeline)[](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-to-know-about-the-dismissal-of-the-epstein-files-by-trumps-justice-department)

For further details, you can review Trump’s Truth Social posts or DOJ statements from July 2025.[](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-to-know-about-the-dismissal-of-the-epstein-files-by-trumps-justice-department)[](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5408202-donald-trump-democrats-jeffrey-epstein-files/)[](https://www.indiatoday.in/world/us-news/story/why-donald-trump-not-releasing-jeffrey-epstein-files-us-politics-obama-democrats-maga-ghislaine-maxwell-pam-bondi-elon-musk-2756040-2025-07-15)
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Yup 2 3 and 5 on your lil grok list...anything else champ or you done?
 
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whodeycin85 said:
You literally asked grok and it stated legal reason and one of the lost of reason Trump has given....but your right. You smashed some crap alright. 😆
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I gather you're an "exceptional" person. Totally understand. My apologies for crossing that "special" line.

Stay strong, son.
 
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