Confederate monuments

Do confederate monuments need to be taken down?

  • Yes- they have no place in our current American climate.

    Votes: 5 7.0%

  • No- they are history and right or wrong they deserved to be recognized.

    Votes: 54 76.1%

  • Don’t care as you can learn the history without them.

    Votes: 12 16.9%
  • Total voters
    71
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EasternVol said:
Hoo boy. Education and critical thinking can be your friends if you let them.
His country, Virginia, had legally seceded. You should look into the reason for that. He was opposed to slavery. He fought to defend Virginia, not slavery. I know that doesn't fit the pop culture narrative but it would behoove anyone to study the man's words and actions before parroting the 'fought for slavery' canard.
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Lee wasn't the only one that opposed slavery in the confederate ranks. One other notable was Joseph E. Johnston. He opposed both slavery and secession. However, his loyalty to Virginia outweighed all this.
 
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EasternVol said:
Hoo boy. Education and critical thinking can be your friends if you let them.
His country, Virginia, had legally seceded. You should look into the reason for that. He was opposed to slavery. He fought to defend Virginia, not slavery. I know that doesn't fit the pop culture narrative but it would behoove anyone to study the man's words and actions before parroting the 'fought for slavery' canard.
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True and on the homefront many people were defending their farms and families.. the Union was not too kind or pleasant when they came rolling into town, at that point it had little to do with slavery, and the majority of Southerners did not have slaves, they were poor white sharecroppers and it benefited them nada
 
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Rioters Set Confederate Gen. Albert Pike Statue On Fire In 2020 — Now Trump Admin Is Reinstalling It​


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The National Park Service (NPS) announced Monday it will reinstall and restore a statue of Confederate General Albert Pike, which was vandalized and toppled by rioters in 2020.
“The restoration aligns with federal responsibilities under historic preservation law as well as recent executive orders to beautify the nation’s capital and re-install pre-existing statues,” the NPS said in a statement.

The NPS said this action supports President Donald Trump’s executive orders, “Making the District of Columbia Safe and Beautiful” and “Restoring Truth and Sanity to American History.” (RELATED: Socialist Candidate’s Resurfaced Post Showing Him Flipping Off Columbus Statue Sparks Outrage)

The NPS is aiming to complete the restoration by October 2025, according to the statement.

Rioters toppled the statue near Washington, D.C.’s, police headquarters using ropes, and they proceeded to douse the statue with lighter fluid and set it on fire, according to NBC4 Washington.

President Trump asked that it be reinstalled less than a week later during his first term, the outlet reported.

More than 160 Confederate symbols were removed from public spaces in 2020, the New York Times reported, citing the left-wing Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).

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Rioters Set A Confederate Statue On Fire In 2020 — Now Trump Admin Is Reinstalling It

The National Park Service announced it will reinstall and restore a statue of Confederate Gen. Albert Pike, which was vandalized and toppled by rioters in 2020.
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Franklin Pierce said:

Rioters Set Confederate Gen. Albert Pike Statue On Fire In 2020 — Now Trump Admin Is Reinstalling It​


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The National Park Service (NPS) announced Monday it will reinstall and restore a statue of Confederate General Albert Pike, which was vandalized and toppled by rioters in 2020.
“The restoration aligns with federal responsibilities under historic preservation law as well as recent executive orders to beautify the nation’s capital and re-install pre-existing statues,” the NPS said in a statement.

The NPS said this action supports President Donald Trump’s executive orders, “Making the District of Columbia Safe and Beautiful” and “Restoring Truth and Sanity to American History.” (RELATED: Socialist Candidate’s Resurfaced Post Showing Him Flipping Off Columbus Statue Sparks Outrage)

The NPS is aiming to complete the restoration by October 2025, according to the statement.

Rioters toppled the statue near Washington, D.C.’s, police headquarters using ropes, and they proceeded to douse the statue with lighter fluid and set it on fire, according to NBC4 Washington.

President Trump asked that it be reinstalled less than a week later during his first term, the outlet reported.

More than 160 Confederate symbols were removed from public spaces in 2020, the New York Times reported, citing the left-wing Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).

dailycaller.com

Rioters Set A Confederate Statue On Fire In 2020 — Now Trump Admin Is Reinstalling It

The National Park Service announced it will reinstall and restore a statue of Confederate Gen. Albert Pike, which was vandalized and toppled by rioters in 2020.
dailycaller.com dailycaller.com
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Trump loves wasting money
 
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85SugarVol said:
No, no, no… @evillawyer gets all tingly thinking about the firebombing of civilians in Atlanta. Wouldn’t want to rob her of such a majestic marker.
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Oh nooooooo. Not Dear Sherman.

Like I give a flying eff. You goobers are the one that go weak kneed about bronze casts of war criminals and white supremacists who defended slavery. Sherman committed acts that we now consider war crimes. Take it down. None of us care.
 
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evillawyer said:
Oh nooooooo. Not Dear Sherman.

Like I give a flying eff. You goobers are the one that go weak kneed about bronze casts of war criminals and white supremacists who defended slavery. Sherman committed acts that we now consider war crimes. Take it down. None of us care.
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Lol, I realize all non-uber progressives look the same to you… but you’re barking up the wrong tree.
 
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evillawyer said:
Oh nooooooo. Not Dear Sherman.

Like I give a flying eff. You goobers are the one that go weak kneed about bronze casts of war criminals and white supremacists who defended slavery. Sherman committed acts that we now consider war crimes. Take it down. None of us care.
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Evil continue ls trolling. Comedy
 
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OHvol40 said:
To quote George Carlin: “the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.”
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Nonsense.

The American Dream is about generational upward mobility - and it’s alive and well.

The American Dream is not everyone gets their ticket punched to upper-middle class.
Nor is “too many” Billionaires a sign that the promise of the Dream has been dashed.

Not that I’m really tracking how a comment on Liberty segued into this.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
If we were to get rid of all Confederate monuments, what would the democrats have to remind them of their heritage?
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Nathan Bedford Forest for one would strongly disagree. As a representative of the KKK and Democrat delicate to the 1868 Democrat National Convention, he couldn't possibly foresee the tearing down of such monuments in modern times. Democrats can always visit some of the preserved former slave worked plantations throughout the south to see their ancestors work.
 
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The National Park Service shared this photo of a worker removing corrosion and paint from the statue of Brigadier General Albert Pike

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The statue, which was erected in 1901, was defaced during the Black Lives Matter protests of 2020

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Protesters used ropes to topple the statue, then set it on fire

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Controversial statue to be reinstalled under Trump

The National Park Service announced on Monday that its crews are working to restore and reinstall the bronze sculpture of Confederate Brigadier General Albert Pike.
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Pete Hegseth Orders Return of Confederate Memorial to Arlington National Cemetery​


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Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth is committed to rooting out woke, and that includes returning confederate memorials to their rightful places.

In an X post on Tuesday, Hegseth announced the grand return of the Confederate Memorial, commonly known as “Reconciliation Monument.”

The monument was removed in 2023 under former Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin during Joe Biden’s presidency.

This move comes months after President Donald Trump signed an executive order titled, “RESTORING TRUTH AND SANITY TO AMERICAN HISTORY.” The order states that Americans, over the last decade, have “witnessed a concerted and widespread effort to rewrite our Nation’s history, replacing objective facts with a distorted narrative driven by ideology rather than truth.”

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Pete Hegseth Orders Return of Confederate Monument to Arlington National Cemetary

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth is committed to rooting out woke, and that includes returning confederate memorials to their rightful places.
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