War in Ukraine

[BeardedVol]

Let me guess, another Russian propagandist. That's the only thing you can say. You can't argue the facts though you can only scream propaganda Russian stooge etc etc

Lol, he lives in Moscow, and works for a state-owned propaganda agency for the Russian government. but, I'm sure he's very 'objective'.

 

[apevol]

Lol, he lives in Moscow, and works for a state-owned propaganda agency for the Russian government. but, I'm sure he's very 'objective'.

and hes Irish

anything to stick it to the Brits

 

[NorthDallas40]

So you agree that Russia gonna win?

Oh trust me you’ve absolutely found your soulmate in that one

 

[Volsdeep4]

About as huge as ghosts, washing machine parts, shovels, 19th round of sanctions, da pootin dying of cancer, a gasoline station masquerading as a country, wonder weapons, pee tapes, russia gate, etc.

What would be huge, imo, is if all the brilliant internet tough guys joined up. https://www.ildu.com.ua/

That’s a weird rant. But if you don’t think losing 1.75 million barrels of oil bought a day is huge. Idk what to tell ya.

 

[BeardedVol]

The Orange man being the Orange man. It looks like to me that Ukrainians are grouped together in small bunches sometimes in the 3-4 number in holes in the ground and occupy the line, basically just hide out. Ukrainians are doing a good job with drones to keep the Russians from easily dismantling the mine fields with heavier equipment. Russians are going through the lines with low counts 2-4 count and getting behind these lines but many of them expire due to the mines and drones if they use motorcycles. Russians are using less and less heavy armor, the Ukrainians basically have to walk as they get into position as Russia is able to zero in on them with vehicles. Artillery is still being used but not as much as before although near towns/cities they become more useful due to more to destroy and more troops to hit. I would expect Russian causalities to be higher due to the nature of an defender normally has the advantage but the Ukraine has a serious manpower problem. Defenses are setup to stop fast armor from coming across, but the war of attrition is not on their side in the least but Russia is now targeting the support on the back side of the line. Russia has no extended the reach of the FABs up to 100km, and their drone strategies are greatly improving at scale.

I would expect it to continue on for sometime as long if the Orange man continues to play ball with them until that time, the Ukrainians will have to move on from busification of Grandpa to busification of Grandma. It really doesn't take much skill to sit in a hole.

The Russians used a tactic of throwing meat at the Nazi during WW2, the difference here is the Ukrainians don't seem to have any plan on the back side of things. The Russians needed to slow down the Nazis to train and equipment a new army, here... there is no new army coming up - the Grandmas are the reserve I guess.

 

[Rocky_Top_Vol13]

 

[LSU-SIU]

That’s a weird rant. But if you don’t think losing 1.75 million barrels of oil bought a day is huge. Idk what to tell ya.

I am confused as to why you think that is rant, its what makes me laugh. What you are telling everyone is you're a nut. Its huge just like them getting shut out from the global financial system, or the 19th round of sanctions, or shovels, or insert insane theory. None of this insane behavior and strange out of context posts are going to change much, they do make me wonder about the end of humanity.

We have the best and toughest internet warriors on this board, 10 feet tall I tell ya.

 

[LSU-SIU]

I think you're either going to have join up or beg harder because...

Posting on the internet isn't going to change anything. Keep posting because its great entertainment.

 

[Volsdeep4]

I am confused as to why you think that is rant, its what makes me laugh. What you are telling everyone is you're a nut. Its huge just like them getting shut out from the global financial system, or the 19th round of sanctions, or shovels, or insert insane theory. None of this insane behavior and strange out of context posts are going to change much, they do make me wonder about the end of humanity.

We have the best and toughest internet warriors on this board, 10 feet tall I tell ya.

This is odd. Uhh the second leading purchaser of oil not doing business with said country (Russia) isn’t a big deal?
How does anything I’ve said make me a 10 feet tall warrior haha.
But yes all those things add up at some point. No country is invincible to economic downturns.

 

[LSU-SIU]

This is odd. Uhh the second leading purchaser of oil not doing business with said country (Russia) isn’t a big deal?
How does anything I’ve said make me a 10 feet tall warrior haha.
But yes all those things add up at some point. No country is invincible to economic downturns.

Its about as big deal as all the other stuff or even smaller, its recycle stuff. My guess is this will continue until the reasons why Russia believe they are there are addressed, or there isn't much left there to fight over. Russia is all in - its either them or the Europeans, there is no going back.

 

[dalton_vol]

It doesn't matter. Russia is gaining Ukraine territory and taking over cities. It's just a matter of time

 

[BeardedVol]

It doesn't matter. Russia is gaining Ukraine territory and taking over cities. It's just a matter of time

 

[LSU-SIU]

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Funny, I think the problem would be going too fast. I originally said a 20 year time limit was not out of the question if they want to really achieve their objectives. Its going to take a long time to destroy a whole county the size of the Ukraine. Have you ever read about the German and Russian front of WW2? This is a real war with real consequences, not U.S. nonsense that has been going on for 60 years. I would say the objective is or should be to wipe the whole country off the map or turn it into a parking lot - that's going to require quite a lot of time and resources.

The problem is - not how fast you advance, but how fast you can get the citizens to pack their bags and move West.

 

[Orange.]

In a statement, a spokesman for India's foreign ministry, Randhir Jaiswal, said the Biden Administration encouraged India to import Russian gas at the start of the conflict and afterward “because traditional supplies were diverted to Europe.”

The destruction of Nordstream 2 — which Biden publicly guaranteed the U.S. would accomplish before the attack occurred — made Indian purchases of Russian oil all the more necessary if the public was to be bamboozled.

The U.S. media did its part by praising the “tough” “moralistic” sanctions talk to the hilt, while failing to report that the Indian “backdoor” purchases were integral to the plan. Otherwise, energy costs in the U.S. would have soared. In other words, the Biden sanctions plan required that the sanctions be violated if Americans were to be shielded from the effects. And for Biden’s party not be held accountable leading into elections. The sanctions and their dishonest treatment in the “news” were essentially propaganda.

India noted also that under Biden US-Russian trade amounted to $7 billion in 2023-24.

 

[BeardedVol]

Funny, I think the problem would be going too fast. I originally said a 20 year time limit was not out of the question if they want to really achieve their objectives. Its going to take a long time to destroy a whole county the size of the Ukraine. Have you ever read about the German and Russian front of WW2? This is a real war with real consequences, not U.S. nonsense that has been going on for 60 years. I would say the objective is or should be to wipe the whole country off the map or turn it into a parking lot - that's going to require quite a lot of time and resources.

The problem is - not how fast you advance, but how fast you can get the citizens to pack their bags and move West.

Lol, Russia has shown quite literally nothing, that says they are willing to mobilize the number of soldiers necessary to occupy all of Ukraine.

That's not even taking into consideration the fact that they can't even adequately equip their current soldiers or maintain logistics for their supply lines as as.

You can pretend otherwise, but the reality of the last three years prove you wrong.

 

[Orange.]

A lot of people have made a lot of money in the last 3 years. Will the rebuild will be even more profitable?

 

[LSU-SIU]

Lol, Russia has shown quite literally nothing, that says they are willing to mobilize the number of soldiers necessary to occupy all of Ukraine.

That's not even taking into consideration the fact that they can't even adequately equip their current soldiers or maintain logistics for their supply lines as as.

You can pretend otherwise, but the reality of the last three years prove you wrong.

Cool. The U.S. can stop funding it and they should be to Moscow fairly quickly.

You can pretend otherwise, but the reality of the last three years prove you wrong.

Not sure where that is coming from, I said it could take 20 years. You have serious mental problems, not much I can do about that. I'm not the one posting all the da pootin has cancer, 18th round of sanctions, wonder weapons, ghost, shovels, and washing machines.

I can't help you.

 

[LSU-SIU]

A lot of people have made a lot of money in the last 3 years. Will the rebuild will be even more profitable?

Once this is over either way all funding will come to an end as their is no need to fund it at that point. Nobody cares about the Ukrainians.

 

[Orange.]

Lol, Russia has shown quite literally nothing, that says they are willing to mobilize the number of soldiers necessary to occupy all of Ukraine.

That's not even taking into consideration the fact that they can't even adequately equip their current soldiers or maintain logistics for their supply lines as as.

You can pretend otherwise, but the reality of the last three years prove you wrong.

So bring our money, intelligence, and (clandestine) troops home! Great!

 

[KB5252]

So bring our money, intelligence, and (clandestine) troops home! Great!

We have no clandestine troops there, there are, mostly were, former military contractors. A few spooks but that's about it.

And before you attempt to refute that I'll go ahead and preemptively let you know I know this first hand from someone who was there and serving until somewhat recently.

 

[LSU-SIU]

So bring our money, intelligence, and (clandestine) troops home! Great!

The thread just continues to cycle back around. Every 3-4 months the Ukraine is winning, I say good, give us our money back. Than the same nutjobs say the U.S. had no real part in this, I say good, just have Trump disclose all the foreign agents, if it was true than no need to worry about the executions.

 

[Orange.]

Lol, he lives in Moscow, and works for a state-owned propaganda agency for the Russian government. but, I'm sure he's very 'objective'.

Sounds like US media. It’s not different.

When U.S. media is proven now to be liars and propaganda, it does not make any sense to accuse the Russians of propaganda. Propaganda compared to what? You can at worst call the Russians “normal” or “as bad, or almost as bad as US propaganda or fake ‘news.’” Our intelligence services have long been implicated as active players in the propaganda: we can look there.

It’s a deep shame that your people have done this to the US. But all you can legitimately do now is call Russian propaganda “news,” the same as our “news.” You destroyed the ground we formerly stood on.

I can’t understand how you fail to understand that. In fact, our case is worse. Because we have (and have had) evidence of US media being criminal and complicit propaganda and lies. But the typical U.S. allegation that Russian news is propaganda is something based on — and is a talking point repeatedly robotically from — US propaganda.

 

[Orange.]

I’m telling you — and your friends — straight, I’m not taunting. It’s a problem.

And we’ve put ourselves in the same relation to Chinese “news” by the same “news as deliberate propaganda” operation in the US.

I hope you see what I’m saying. One propaganda outfit is saying nothing — or less than nothing — when it calls a rival country’s news propagandist.

They are actually, at most, raising the question as to whether the rival is not propagandistic. That’s the limit of what is possible in the circumstance our intelligence services and propaganda “news” have put us.

 

[Rocky_Top_Vol13]

 

[Orange.]

I thought you hated such environmentally damaging emissions and eco terrorism.

Seriously, Is this really a sane thing for the U.S. to be doing?

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Note: Is that a quote from Chomsky? It’s not in quotation marks and it’s not sourced. What’s the text? Is it supposed to be a joke?

Is “Darth Putin” a propaganda or a news site?