That's racist!

Any reset will not be catastrophic. The reset happens over time as you focus on your community. Do what you can, locally, to make people realize they don't need what the government is selling. Create jobs. Create community. Improve your churches.

Doing the equivalent of bleating at clouds and telling me I need to vote for one team is the wrong answer and at this stage it's the stupidest answer. It's worthless to yell about whatever twisted moral stand you want to take when you're not doing a single damn thing about improving the fundamental situation of people around you. That's the legacy of the boomer generation.
A new president only has a brief period of time. Think 2&1/2 years........ We Live in a results now world. Markets swing wildly with change. Any "reset" is going to be painful for this reason alone. And that pain will reflect in the next election. Long story short a president responsible for any reset isn't going to be around long enough to see if through.
 
depends on what you mean by "impacts me in a real way". If by a real way you mean I let it ruin my life/day, not a whole lot. but I doubt most claims of racism actually impact anyone in a real way.
Many of the more nonsensical declarations of That’s Racist! society has been subjected to over the past 5 years have been more about moving the goalposts/window.

Clocks are racist
Math is racist
Schedules are racist
Grammar is racist
Deadlines are racist
Bridges are racist
Professionalism is racist
Objectivity is racist
Delayed Gratification
Rational Thinking

It was just wild.

I used to work in Big Tech - that nonsense eventually impacted real people in a real, tangible way.
 
A new president only has a brief period of time. Think 2&1/2 years........ We Live in a results now world. Markets swing wildly with change. Any "reset" is going to be painful for this reason alone. And that pain will reflect in the next election. Long story short a president responsible for any reset isn't going to be around long enough to see if through.
You are missing my point entirely. The president only has control over certain things- chiefly, his own branch. He has influence over his party, but not always control.

I expect the president to focus on his own things. I expect the president to do all in his power to reign in his branch. I expect damn near perfection in that.

My point was about this culture war ********. A national "culture war" is a waste of time. Our civilization in the US resets itself and heals over time from the local level. Not from a national politician or a co-opted movement.
 
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For example, if someone told me a thing was racist that I hadn't previously considered racist, I would try to understand where they're coming from, not just throw a temper tantrum and complain about it for the next decade. What harm was even done to me in that scenario? People talk about being "over it" when nothing bad even happened to them
I think part of the issue from both sides is the tendency to believe that the radical fringe represents the whole.

Racism is less a problem today than it was 30 years ago. There are fewer racists. Bigotry is something different. Bigotry is prejudice unchecked, the unwillingness to identify with it seek common ground with people you perceive as different. Prejudice exists within us all, it's human nature, a built in defense mechanism.

Bigotry is something different, bigotry is the product of not challenging your base emotions and reactions. It's a sign of a closed mind not willing to seek common ground or interact with mutual understanding and respect.

Racism is weaponized bigotry, a sign of an even weaker mind that has determined to use bigotry to hurt and or degrade others, set aside you and or your sub group as superior.

I think we use the term racist too liberally. The correct term for what many say is racism is actually just bigotry. You can't really fight something properly unless you have identified and defined it properly.

JMO but I've thought about this a lot.
 
I think part of the issue from both sides is the tendency to believe that the radical fringe represents the whole.

Racism is less a problem today than it was 30 years ago. There are fewer racists. Bigotry is something different. Bigotry is prejudice unchecked, the unwillingness to identify with it seek common ground with people you perceive as different. Prejudice exists within us all, it's human nature, a built in defense mechanism.

Bigotry is something different, bigotry is the product of not challenging your base emotions and reactions. It's a sign of a closed mind not willing to seek common ground or interact with mutual understanding and respect.

Racism is weaponized bigotry, a sign of an even weaker mind that has determined to use bigotry to hurt and or degrade others, set aside you and or your sub group as superior.

I think we use the term racist too liberally. The correct term for what many say is racism is actually just bigotry. You can't really fight something properly unless you have identified and defined it properly.

JMO but I've thought about this a lot.
This is what I am getting at with my culture war posts. You have people on the right reacting to a fraction of people on the left that think a jeans ad is racist. They're no better than the noisy people on the other side.

Then you have these same people telling everyone they have to pick between two crappy sides. It's stupidity at its finest.
 
You are missing my point entirely. The president only has control over certain things- chiefly, his own branch. He has influence over his party, but not always control.

I expect the president to focus on his own things. I expect the president to do all in his power to reign in his branch. I expect damn near perfection in that.

My point was about this culture war ********. A national "culture war" is a waste of time. Our civilization in the US resets itself and heals over time from the local level. Not from a national politician or a co-opted movement.
Maybe I'm just being cynical but do you believe what I "think" you're stating here is actually possible? By this I mean we're a country of some 350m with 50 different states that are themselves expressly allowed a degree of self-governance. There's a degree of herding cats involved here. At it's base premise I (actually I think a large number of people) would agree with a "change starts at home" take but there are a lot of homes that differ greatly from one another spread across the country and even the idea of what "healing" would even mean would be vehemently debated.
 
Maybe I'm just being cynical but do you believe what I "think" you're stating here is actually possible? By this I mean we're a country of some 350m with 50 different states that are themselves expressly allowed a degree of self-governance. There's a degree of herding cats involved here. At it's base premise I (actually I think a large number of people) would agree with a "change starts at home" take but there are a lot of homes that differ greatly from one another spread across the country and even the idea of what "healing" would even mean would be vehemently debated.
Do you not realize that this difference of "at home" was even more pronounced at the time our country was founded?

In short, yes, it is possible, if we take a minute and turn off the talking heads and politicians.
 
For example, if someone told me a thing was racist that I hadn't previously considered racist, I would try to understand where they're coming from, not just throw a temper tantrum and complain about it for the next decade. What harm was even done to me in that scenario? People talk about being "over it" when nothing bad even happened to them
How is being accused of white power and nazism over a jeans commercial equal white people wanting to be victims? There's literally a call for boycotting American eagle, and hundreds of videos from the left. That's not wanting to be a victim, that's normal people tired of the stupid from your side.
 
Do you not realize that this difference of "at home" was even more pronounced at the time our country was founded?

In short, yes, it is possible, if we take a minute and turn off the talking heads and politicians.
I actually set forth some parameters that are far, FAR different than what we had at the founding. Just a couple highlights being a population of 3m vs 350m and 13 states vs 50.

FWIW I see basically no downside to what your second sentence posits.
 
You are missing my point entirely. The president only has control over certain things- chiefly, his own branch. He has influence over his party, but not always control.

I expect the president to focus on his own things. I expect the president to do all in his power to reign in his branch. I expect damn near perfection in that.

My point was about this culture war ********. A national "culture war" is a waste of time. Our civilization in the US resets itself and heals over time from the local level. Not from a national politician or a co-opted movement.
Then that's even less likely. This country is more fragmented than ever before. To achieve any reset the country needs a certain level of unity working toward the same end.
 
I actually set forth some parameters that are far, FAR different than what we had at the founding. Just a couple highlights being a population of 3m vs 350m and 13 states vs 50.

FWIW I see basically no downside to what your second sentence posits.
I just don't think the numbers are such a big problem. The desire to force the other side to do what you want across the whole country is the problem. We had those arguments 250 years ago and our founders came up with a fine solution that applies everywhere from a town and county level (i.e., parts of the county self-governing and representing themselves) all the way to a national level. It's scalable. Provably so.

The issue is we now have people devoting themselves to party lines, personalities, and celebrity politicians (not speaking about Trump specifically, but in this day and age politicians are all basically celebrities) over everything else. It's how we end up with a guy telling me I'm pissing myself for having expectations and because I won't come out and say "go MAGA movement".
 
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No, i would not characterize Sydney Sweeney as “wholesome”. At all.

What she actually is is Thin, Attractive, White, Cis, Hetero - and that appears to be what has some people all ate up.

Oh, and “Nazi”. Like just about everyone else these days, according to the Left, Sydney Sweeney is a Nazi.
People really love that term. Or fascist. It’s so overused, like many other “ist” words or “phobic” words, it loses its meaning or relevance when in it actually occurs . The vast majority of people in this country DGAS about jeans commercials or the color of the person they’re working next to at the office . They just want to provide for their families and live a secure life. If you go on tiktok it’s overwhelming these loser girls with their septum rings complaining about the pretty girl in the ad and manufacturing some outrage bc maybe this is just another indicator that they aren’t happy unless they’re unhappy . Who would have ever thought that the movie PCU, made in satire, would almost seem tame 30 years later?
 
Okay. What is a common everyday thing that you do that has suddenly been labeled racist, such that this impacts you in a real way?

I feel like a lot of people (in general, not you) read about extreme cases on the Internet and get essentially ragebaited

It's not racist or at least I don't think it is but since my kids were little I called them meatheads or re-re's when they did something stupid. When they did something really dumb I occasionally drop the full on "retard". I didn't just reserve that for my kids but included all kids and now those terms are unacceptable, frowned upon or even completely offensive to people. That has impacted me greatly now that I have grandkids.
 
Then that's even less likely. This country is more fragmented than ever before. To achieve any reset the country needs a certain level of unity working toward the same end.
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Full offense meant here; that's a monumentally stupid take considering what was happening here 160-170 years ago. Have you, by chance, ever opened a single book?
The divide was basically north and south, then the West that was still a frontier.

Now you have distinct portions of the US with very different philosophies and ideas about society and government.

For instance the Pacific Northwest, the Atlantic Northeast. Northern Midwest, southern Midwest. The Southwest. Atlantic coastal areas, and then the south.

Within these areas the fragments are even deeper rifts between rural and urban areas.

While we are not at war we are much more fragmented (pulled in different directions) now than we were during the civil war.
 
The divide was basically north and south, then the West that was still a frontier.

Now you have distinct portions of the US with very different philosophies and ideas about society and government.

For instance the Pacific Northwest, the Atlantic Northeast. Northern Midwest, southern Midwest. The Southwest. Atlantic coastal areas, and then the south.

Within these areas the fragments are even deeper rifts between rural and urban areas.

While we are not at war we are much more fragmented (pulled in different directions) now than we were during the civil war.
When's the last time you visited most of these places and talked to normal people?

This whole argument is a major stretch.
 
When's the last time you visited most of these places and talked to normal people?

This whole argument is a major stretch.
I have friends that live in Washington State, Family that lives in California. I've been to every other region in the past three years save the Northeast but I know some people there too.

As country we have more in common than we have differences. But these areas vote for and demand different things from their government.

The only thing that's kept this thing together is the two party system and their ability to sell to the American public that it's the other sides fault when in reality there is no side........ Just the same ole government.
 
Many of the more nonsensical declarations of That’s Racist! society has been subjected to over the past 5 years have been more about moving the goalposts/window.

Clocks are racist
Math is racist
Schedules are racist
Grammar is racist
Deadlines are racist
Bridges are racist
Professionalism is racist
Objectivity is racist
Delayed Gratification
Rational Thinking

It was just wild.

I used to work in Big Tech - that nonsense eventually impacted real people in a real, tangible way.
Not paying athletes NIL is racist.
 
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I just don't think the numbers are such a big problem. The desire to force the other side to do what you want across the whole country is the problem. We had those arguments 250 years ago and our founders came up with a fine solution that applies everywhere from a town and county level (i.e., parts of the county self-governing and representing themselves) all the way to a national level. It's scalable. Provably so.

The issue is we now have people devoting themselves to party lines, personalities, and celebrity politicians (not speaking about Trump specifically, but in this day and age politicians are all basically celebrities) over everything else. It's how we end up with a guy telling me I'm pissing myself for having expectations and because I won't come out and say "go MAGA movement".
I won't disagree with much of the sentiment in the 2nd paragraph but still maintain we have some truly overt differences now and the idea of "scalable" is having issues. We have something like 15 individual urban areas that themselves are more populous than the entire country at the founding. Those living in population areas of 2500 or more went from 5.1% in 1790 to 35.1 in 1890. The last census has urban population at 80%. The dynamics of that are different.

Again, maybe I'm just cynical but I have severe reservations regarding the comparisons being made. And that's not even counting how we're orders of magnitude more connected. Technology, for good or ill, has simply changed how things work across the board. We literally do not interact like we did even a few decades ago. Make no mistake I would love for you to be right about how we could make this work like you describe (to the extent you describe) but I'm not sure it could happen that way without bloodshed.
 

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