War in Ukraine

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LSU-SIU said:
So? See Congressional Record, they were doing one thing in public and other things in private. Really what they wanted to do to Russia was what they did to the Ukraine soft coup. Either way, your reality is purely in your head. The real reality is taking place and you are hiding behind a keyboard. Pure mental disease.

My take is the good guys always win - give it some more time and you will see who the good guys are.
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Yes, nothing says "let's wage war on Russia" quite like giving them billions of dollars in direct aid and IMF loans at the most vulnerable time of their existence as a country; a truly genius war strategy.
 
#87,952
#87,952
BeardedVol said:
Yes, nothing says "let's wage war on Russia" quite like giving them billions of dollars in direct aid and IMF loans at the most vulnerable time of their existence as a country; a truly genius war strategy.
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it is if you never want the war to end.

its not like we don't have a history of arming future enemies.
 
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#87,955
BeardedVol said:
Yes, nothing says "let's wage war on Russia" quite like giving them billions of dollars in direct aid and IMF loans at the most vulnerable time of their existence as a country; a truly genius war strategy.
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No, its common sense, Russia had 10,000 nuclear weapons, the ability to take on Russia directly is not available, also, they didn't want to cause Russia to split like the USSR as they have 10,000 nuclear weapons.

a truly genius war strategy
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Yet, this is what the U.S. military told Congress they were attempting to do. You are trying to rewrite history, your reality. The U.S. never stopped being at war.

Now go sign up, because the Ukrainians really could use some unskilled meat to sit in a hole to get a FAB to the forehead for absolutely no purpose and I think you fit the bill.
 
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#87,957
LSU-SIU said:
No, its common sense, Russia had 10,000 nuclear weapons, the ability to take on Russia directly is not available, also, they didn't want to cause Russia to split like the USSR as they have 10,000 nuclear weapons.



Yet, this is what the U.S. military told Congress they were attempting to do. You are trying to rewrite history, your reality. The U.S. never stopped being at war.

Now go sign up, because the Ukrainians really could use some unskilled meat to sit in a hole to get a FAB to the forehead for absolutely no purpose and I think you fit the bill.
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The failure in your logic in believing that NATO and US were/are a military threat to Russia, is that if we were ever going to invade Russia, 1991 would have been when we could have manufactured justification in 'securing nuclear weapons during the imminent break up of Russia'.

We didn't do that though did we? No, we literally gave them billions of dollars of aid, and had the IMF give them loans so that they wouldn't break up. Even after they used IMF loans to re-invade Chechnya, and turn Grozny into this:
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We still continued to keep them whole.
 
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#87,960
BeardedVol said:
The failure in your logic in believing that NATO and US were/are a military threat to Russia, is that if we were ever going to invade Russia, 1991 would have been when we could have manufactured justification in 'securing nuclear weapons during the imminent break up of Russia'.

We didn't do that though did we? No, we literally gave them billions of dollars of aid, and had the IMF give them loans so that they wouldn't break up. Even after they used IMF loans to re-invade Chechnya, and turn Grozny into this:
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We still continued to keep them whole.
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You are trying to rewrite history, the U.S. government i.e. the U.S. military briefed (warned) Congress in the 90s, which has been provided to you multiple times. Its not my logic, its a fact. The war with Russia never ended and they figured it out fairly quickly.

I can't help you, you are mentality ill.
 
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LouderVol said:
sure, just like giving the taliban all those weapons in the 80s had no impact on our invasion of Afghanistan.
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Lol, where did I say that we "didn't have an impact"?

We most certainly had an impact, we kept Russia from breaking up into the myriad of ethnic states that comprise it.

You're picking a bizarre hill to die on here.
 
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#87,962
LSU-SIU said:
You are trying to rewrite history, the U.S. government i.e. the U.S. military briefed (warned) Congress in the 90s, which has been provided to you multiple times. Its not my logic, its a fact. The war with Russia never ended and they figured it out fairly quickly.

I can't help you, you are mentality ill.
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Lol remind me, when did we invade Russia in the 90s?
 
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#87,971
LSU-SIU said:
Why would I do that? In your reality this probably makes sense, you are clearly mentality ill. There really is nothing I can do for you.
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