Israel vs Palestinians

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Smokey123 said:
I’m starting to question if you read anything. I’ve never said don’t fight Hamas. I would be happy if Hamas was eradicated. Forcing Gaza into Jordan and Egypt doesn’t do that

That’s the dumbest **** I’ve heard in my life. People are forced to do immoral things every day just because you’re forced to do something doesn’t excuse it
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You’ve never directly said don’t fight Hamas, but you’ve also called for them to accept agreements from surrounding countries that would involve not fighting Hamas (to be fully fair to you, I asked specifically what agreement you were referring to and you failed to provide it, but the ones I’m aware of mean no fighting Hamas)

And yeah, if someone else forced you into a no win moral situation it’s beyond ignorant to claim “that doesn’t excuse it!”
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I can’t remember.
Have you been there?

I once read were Arafat said he would have been killed by his own people if he took the deal.
I looked but can’t locate it now.

But I do agree with you. There are people on both sides sowing the seeds of hate.

It does appear that most of the Middle East is over it now and wants to normalize relations…..who knows how that will turn out
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No sadly I haven’t. I have friends and family that have lived there. Some will likely move back. One that served in the IDF

I’ve read the same thing

I think the corner is turning in that regard but I think we’re still ways away from peace. I know a lot of people disagree but I think the majority of people in the region (Israel and Gaza specifically) would greatly prefer to live in peace than continue fighting over territory
 
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#34,006
Smokey123 said:
No sadly I haven’t. I have friends and family that have lived there. Some will likely move back. One that served in the IDF

I’ve read the same thing

I think the corner is turning in that regard but I think we’re still ways away from peace. I know a lot of people disagree but I think the majority of people in the region (Israel and Gaza specifically) would greatly prefer to live in peace than continue fighting over territory
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Do you not believe the post October 7th polling showing majority support for both Hamas and October 7th?
 
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#34,007
Smokey123 said:
No sadly I haven’t. I have friends and family that have lived there. Some will likely move back. One that served in the IDF

I’ve read the same thing

I think the corner is turning in that regard but I think we’re still ways away from peace. I know a lot of people disagree but I think the majority of people in the region (Israel and Gaza specifically) would greatly prefer to live in peace than continue fighting over territory
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You know where Jews and Arabs live in peace?

Israel.
 
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Vol8188 said:
This feels contradictory to your own words.



Once a country forces you into war, they force you to make tough decisions where the most moral outcome isn’t also clear. That’s why I find your last comment here to be childish.
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It wasn’t reckless it saved hundreds of thousands of Americans and likely Japanese life. Some people estimate it saved several million lives
 
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Smokey123 said:
It wasn’t reckless it saved hundreds of thousands of Americans and likely Japanese life. Some people estimate it saved several million lives
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But you don’t believe Israel does any similar calculations? In your mind they just carpet bomb the place, right?

If that were true, this would’ve been over a long time ago
 
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Smokey123 said:
It’s true lmao

But this is coming from the same guy who excused funding Hamas and said they didn’t start as a terrorist group. So not surprising
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He’s done more to eliminate Hamas than any leader in history. You’re just speaking in baseless conspiracy now when you try to claim he wants to keep them around
 
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Vol8188 said:
Do you not believe the post October 7th polling showing majority support for both Hamas and October 7th?
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Not at all. There’s been a million different polls over the last 2 years. Some approval ratings as high as 90% to as low as 10%
 
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Smokey123 said:
Giving them 30 million a month for 5 years is really doing so much to eliminate them. Thank God I don’t live in your reality
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You’re stretching the truth here. Israel did not provide that money. It also wasn’t five years.
 
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MAD said:
1890 JERUSALEM:
60% Jewish.
20% Christians
20% Muslim.
0% Palestinian.
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1915
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Palestinians meant the Jews. 👇
It was considered a slur.

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Maybe it wasn't. The whole article:
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ARABS TO BOYCOTT PALESTINIAN GOODS; Vote Action Against Jewish Industry, Charging Tie With Zionism and Political Aims

CAIRO, Egypt, Dec. 3 (U.P.)--The Arab League announced today that its eseven member States would boycott all Jewish-produced goods from Palestine beginning Jan. 1.
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