President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

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BigOrangeMojo said:
She blatantly said to the list of Epstein clients "It's sitting on my desk right now to review." This list hasnt been released and now doesnt exist according to her.

She has said there are thousands of videos. Those havent been released.

If you speak and all you do is keep lying, you lose the benefit of the doubt.
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Continue the quote. She then says “along with the JFK and MLK files” if my memory is right. Seems she was speaking about the case files in general.

If there were all of these other men who Maxwell trafficked to, why did zero of them come up in her criminal case? The most likely answer is “those people don’t exist”. Is there any evidence at all that they do exist?

You want them to release actual child pornography? Huh?
 
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Vol8188 said:
Continue the quote. She then says “along with the JFK and MLK files” if my memory is right. Seems she was speaking about the case files in general.

If there were all of these other men who Maxwell trafficked men to, why did zero of them come up in her criminal case? The most likely answer is “those people don’t exist”

You want them to release actual child pornography? Huh?
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She specifically answered a question related solely to the Epstein files when she gave that response.

No, I do not want child porn released.

Again, if this list didnt exist, then why lie about it. That's a fireable offense if there ever was one for a AG....
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
She specifically answered a question related solely to the Epstein files when she gave that response.

No, I do not want child porn released.

Again, if this list didnt exist, then why lie about it. That's a fireable offense if there ever was one for a AG....
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Sure, the Epstein files exist. As do the mlk and jfk files. Not sure what you’re saying in the first paragraph.

If you don’t want child porn released, what specifically did you believe the videos to be?

I think she genuinely misspoke. Thus the immediate “MLK and JFK” comment. She was reviewing all of things. I think the other possibility is that she genuinely believed the files would contain a list and then came up empty.

My counter here is simple. What evidence is there of such a list? If the best evidence is her one comment, I don’t think that’s a very solid case. If there’s no evidence such a list exists, then you’re just playing the conspiracy theorist game on continually claiming “there’s more they’re not telling us!” Without any valid evidence that more exists
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
He has the R. Short of Tubs actually banging high schoolers, the gov is in the bag if he wins the primary....

Nick Saban could run as a D in Alabama and he'd lose by double digits to Tubs...
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Not saying you’re wrong but I find it hard to believe the GOP is a stronger religion than Bammer football in that backwards ass state. But yeah I’ll concede the R could probably lift up Tommy
 
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Vol8188 said:
Sure, the Epstein files exist. As do the mlk and jfk files. Not sure what you’re saying in the first paragraph.

If you don’t want child porn released, what specifically did you believe the videos to be?

I think she genuinely misspoke. Thus the immediate “MLK and JFK” comment. She was reviewing all of things. I think the other possibility is that she genuinely believed the files would contain a list and then came up empty.

My counter here is simple. What evidence is there of such a list? If the best evidence is her one comment, I don’t think that’s a very solid case. If there’s no evidence such a list exists, then you’re just playing the conspiracy theorist game on continually claiming “there’s more they’re not telling us!” Without any valid evidence that more exists
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No, her words said a list existed. Literally, what she said. The AG of the US said something existed in direct response to a question about the list. Thats not a conspiracy and no amount of rhetoricals or water carrying changes WHAT SHE SAID

Either she is lying or something exists. Its one of the two.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
No, her words said a list existed. Literally, what she said. The AG of the US said something existed in direct response to a question about the list. Thats not a conspiracy and no amount of rhetoricals or water carrying changes WHAT SHE SAID

Either she is lying or something exists. Its one of the two.
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She was asked about a list and said something to the extent of (I’m going of memory) “yes, I’m reviewing that along with the MLK and JFK files too”.

It’s not as simple as an either/or. You’re being wildly disingenuous. If it were simply a client list it wouldn’t even need to sit on her desk for review. It could likely be read and done in 5 minutes or less

Is that the only evidence you have that such a list exists? No such list was presented in Maxwell’s criminal case and she was only formally charged with trafficking women for Epstein.

So what evidence do you have.

Edit: Pasted the direct quote below instead of us both going of memory or paraphrasing so it’s here for reference

“It’s sitting on my desk right now to review. That’s been a directive by President Trump — to review all of these files, along with the MLK and JFK files.”
 
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Vol8188 said:
She was asked about a list and said something to the extent of (I’m going of memory) “yes, I’m reviewing that along with the MLK and JFK files too”.

It’s not as simple as an either/or. You’re being wildly disingenuous.

Is that the only evidence you have that such a list exists? No such list was presented in Maxwell’s criminal case and she was only formally charged with trafficking women for Epstein.

So what evidence do you have.
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My evidence is her own words. She was asked about specifically the Epstein list, she said she was reviewing it. Period.

You are buying her BS explantion and Trump's explanation verbatim without even challenging them at all. Hope your arms arent sore from all the water carrying.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
My evidence is her own words. She was asked about the Epstein list, she said she was reviewing it. Period.

You are buying her BS explantion and Trump's explanation verbatim without even challenging them at all. Hope your arms arent sore from all the water carrying...
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But that “evidence” doesn’t even make sense.

I’m simply being rational. If this list existed, there would likely be some form of evidence.

Answer this. If you truly believe she meant specifically the client list was on her desk, why would it need to be waiting for her review? I imagine such a list could be read in 5-10 minutes?

Seems far more logical that she meant the entire Epstein files were there for her to review. Unless you think she meant:

“I am reviewing the Epstein client list only, along with the MLK and JFK files”…that would seem way weirder. Why would she only review the Epstein “list”?
 
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Vol8188 said:
But that “evidence” doesn’t even make sense.

I’m simply being rational. If this list existed, there would likely be some form of evidence.

Answer this. If you truly believe she meant specifically the client list was on her desk, why would it need to be waiting for her review? I imagine such a list could be read in 5-10 minutes?

Seems far more logical that she meant the entire Epstein files were there for her to review. Unless you think she meant:

“I am reviewing the Epstein client list only, along with the MLK and JFK files”…that would seem way weirder. Why would she only review the Epstein “list”?
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Once again, I only have to go on the words she said in response to a sprcific question about the Epstein list....
 
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Vol8188 said:
Yeah, we know the context
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I wanted to put it out there for everyone else to form their own opinion....

Me and you arguing back and forth aint going to convince anyone. I'll let people listen to the question, her response, and form their own opinion...
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Once again, I only have to go on the words she said in response to a sprcific question about the Epstein list....
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how long do you think such a list would actually take her to review? 10 minutes?

You guys want to believe so badly this exist but in actuality you have absolutely nothing.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
I wanted to put it out there for everyone else to form their own opinion....

Me and you arguing back and forth aint going to convince anyone. I'll let people listen to the question, her response, and form their own opinion...
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And just to be clear: literally nothing else matters to you rather than this one specific quote?
 
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Vol8188 said:
how long do you think such a list would actually take her to review? 10 minutes?

You guys want to believe so badly this exist but in actuality you have absolutely nothing.
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I never said there was a list. I think her lying is as viable (or even more) of an explantion as there being a list.

But we cant have the AG lying on national TV..
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
I never said there was a list. I think her lying is as viable (or even more) of an explantion as there being a list.

But we cant have the AG lying on national TV..
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You don’t think it’s possible she misspoke? When you add in that you’re reviewing the MLK and JFK files too, and the simply fact that a client list likely wouldn’t take any significant time at all to truly review makes it seem obvious to me that she meant to say “yes, I’m reviewing those files and MLK and JFK too”.

Why do you refuse to accept that as plausible ?
 
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Vol8188 said:
You don’t think it’s possible she misspoke? When you add in that you’re reviewing the MLK and JFK files too, and the simply fact that a client list likely wouldn’t take any significant time at all to truly review makes it seem obvious to me that she meant to say “yes, I’m reviewing those files and MLK and JFK too”.

Why do you refuse to accept that as plausible ?
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Plausible -yes. Likely, no

The totality of her actions and words in the subsequent months leads to me to my conclusion. I think she lied/fibbed for MAGA clout reasons. She tried to keep the lie up until she needed to provide receipts. She couldnt.

Ive stated I dont think Trump is incriminated. Ds would have leaked that yrs ago.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Plausible -yes. Likely, no

The totality of her actions and words in the subsequent months leads to me to my conclusion. I think she lied/fibbed for MAGA clout reasons. She tried to keep the lie up until she needed to provide receipts. She couldnt.

Ive stated I dont think Trump is incriminated. Ds would have leaked that yrs ago.
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The middle portion I may be personally ignorant of. Maybe that’s our disconnect.
 
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Another issue is that they are not being consistent with why they aren't releasing anything else.

There is nothing else.

Well there is, but Obama made it up.

There is a list.

There is no list.

There's no other names.

Well there are, but releasing those names could destroy these people, so we can't.

There is no video.

Well there is a video, with missing footage.

There's thousands of hours of video evidence of child abuse they have to go over.

Apparently Epstein was the only adult in every single one of those videos.

Nothing to see here, move along.
 
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MercyPercy said:
Another issue is that they are not being consistent with why they aren't releasing anything else.

There is nothing else.

Well there is, but Obama made it up.

There is a list.

There is no list.

There's no other names.

Well there are, but releasing those names could destroy these people, so we can't.

There is no video.

Well there is a video, with missing footage.

There's thousands of hours of video evidence of child abuse they have to go over.

Apparently Epstein was the only adult in every single one of those videos.

Nothing to see here, move along.
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In order to make the claim that an ominous “they” are being inconsistent, you seem to have lumped numerous “they’s” in together
 
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