The Atlanta Braves - Hello darkness my old friend

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well, Tennessee might have had a rough 20 years, but at least our former national championship winning QB never said this!

 
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Swanson's defensive numbers have taken a step back but that's a half season worth of games. WAR is a great stat but Nick Allen isn't close to Dansby in terms of player this year.
 
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TBrown said:
I don’t think trading Ronald makes much sense and I would prefer the bats to be closer to MLB but that’s not a bad trade.
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Despite the awesome contract, the man has tore his ACL in both knees. There are risks.
 
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TBrown said:
I don’t think trading Ronald makes much sense and I would prefer the bats to be closer to MLB but that’s not a bad trade.
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It isn't completely terrible, but that's on the very low side of what Acuna is worth.

I know next to nothing about their prospects, but Logan Henderson looks pretty legit. Strong K rate and great control.

Sal Frelick definitely doesn't move the needle though. And the SS prospects, while nice, are so far away from the majors. I get that you're probably rebuilding anyways if you're trading Acuna, but those aren't the sort of prospects I would be looking for in a trade.

Juan Soto trade to Pads is the bare minimum that we should be requesting.
 
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Carp said:
It isn't completely terrible, but that's on the very low side of what Acuna is worth.

I know next to nothing about their prospects, but Logan Henderson looks pretty legit. Strong K rate and great control.

Sal Frelick definitely doesn't move the needle though. And the SS prospects, while nice, are so far away from the majors. I get that you're probably rebuilding anyways if you're trading Acuna, but those aren't the sort of prospects I would be looking for in a trade.

Juan Soto trade to Pads is the bare minimum that we should be requesting.
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Soto had more value. Soto didn't have two torn ACL's.
 
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zjcvols said:
Soto had more value. Soto didn't have two torn ACL's.
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Soto had less control and was making a lot more money than Acuna. Acuna is an elite hitter in this league under a very affordable contract. Soto absolutely did not have more value.
 
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TBrown said:
I don’t think trading Ronald makes much sense and I would prefer the bats to be closer to MLB but that’s not a bad trade.
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Life comes at you fast. In less than 2 years we've gone from "the WS window is open for the Braves for the next 7 years" to "Eh, trading Acuna isn't the worst idea I've heard of."
 
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Carp said:
Soto had less control and was making a lot more money than Acuna. Acuna is an elite hitter in this league under a very affordable contract. Soto absolutely did not have more value.
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Soto (when he was traded) was a 155 wRC+ hitter for his career with zero injuries. Ronnie has surpassed that wRC+ in a full season one time. Soto was in arbitration (Soto made $60M in arbitration with the Padres/Yankees) so he had no long-term commitments. Soto was younger than Ronnie is now by a few years. And again, Soto didn't have two torn ACLs. Ronnie would fetch a good prospect haul. He would not fetch what Soto got.
 
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Carp said:
fWAR begs to differ.

Defense matters. And Nick Allen has been the best defensive SS in the league.
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He sucks bad. His offense is so hilarious that his slightly above average defense doesn’t even scratch the surface of being “worth it”. But this requires some nuance to understand.
 
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zjcvols said:
Soto (when he was traded) was a 155 wRC+ hitter for his career with zero injuries. Ronnie has surpassed that wRC+ in a full season one time. Soto was in arbitration (Soto made $60M in arbitration with the Padres/Yankees) so he had no long-term commitments. Soto was younger than Ronnie is now by a few years. And again, Soto didn't have two torn ACLs. Ronnie would fetch a good prospect haul. He would not fetch what Soto got.
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No long term commitment is not an advantage. Acuna is a cost controlled top 5 hitter in baseball. And for what it's worth, Acuna has finished higher on the trade value chart every single season of Fangraphs chart.
 
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