President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

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Orange_Crush said:
FWIW, as far as I'm concerned, it can be the illegal immigrant's choice. We'll send you home. If you fight that, we'll send you to one of the few countries besides your home that is willing to take you. But we, as a nation, are not going to reward your attempts to sneak in here by keeping you here. We gave you the chance to self-deport with an option for future legal immigration. By not self-deporting, you've narrowed your options. What's it going to be?

And I don't hate some deterrents. If we find you here illegally again, you're off to an African country with no contacts or support structure. Good luck swimming back to try again.
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I'd prefer the repeat offenders do a year or so in the pen then get sent back home. Too bad we can't add corporal punishment a la Singapore. There's no need to send them somewhere they might not be able to get out of.
 
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EasternVol said:
I'd prefer the repeat offenders do a year or so in the pen then get sent back home. Too bad we can't add corporal punishment a la Singapore. There's no need to send them somewhere they might not be able to get out of.
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I'd prefer the taxpayers not have to pay to feed and house them for a year or so. IMO, it's incredibly unfair for them to sneak in, knowing that the cost of deportation and/or prison time will be forced on the US taxpayers in response to the illegal alien's decisions. Send them home or to Africa the first time, their choice. Second strike, you turned your own life upside down. The blame isn't on us. It's on you.

If they know the cost before trying to play the system, it's on them.
 
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EasternVol said:
I'd prefer the repeat offenders do a year or so in the pen then get sent back home. Too bad we can't add corporal punishment a la Singapore. There's no need to send them somewhere they might not be able to get out of.
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I’d rather take over and put them up in hotels. We can pay for food, clothing, etc, and even the empty rooms. They can be given fraudulent IDs and work for the same people running the scam. The scammers can buy cars with the money they steal and hire illegals as uber drivers and then charge for rides to Uber that never happen. Maybe even hire them to clean up the very place they’ve taken over to rob us. Imagine the billions of tax dollars so wisely spent instead of just sending the criminals back from where they came and the ones harboring and aiding them to prison.
 
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C-south said:
How would more money have brought about a more accurate forecast?
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www.cbsnews.com

Short-staffed NWS enters hurricane season in "uncharted territory." Meteorologists share their concerns.

The 2025 Atlantic hurricane season begins during a tumultuous period at the National Weather Service, following significant cuts at the country's forecasting agency.
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^^^ This was from over a month ago ^^^ ..... So, it was obviously a predictable situation.

Apparently, the Trump Administration got a clue that having a depleted National Weather Service staff heading into hurricane season might not be a good idea. After having just engaged in mass layoffs from DOGE cuts, the Trump Administration was forced to grant an exemption to the National Weather Service during the federal hiring freeze, allowing them to retool. That sure seems like an admission that Musk's cuts went too far, and were to the detriment of quality service.

Maybe Trump could make amends by sending them his Sharpie?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
www.cbsnews.com

Short-staffed NWS enters hurricane season in "uncharted territory." Meteorologists share their concerns.

The 2025 Atlantic hurricane season begins during a tumultuous period at the National Weather Service, following significant cuts at the country's forecasting agency.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com

^^^ This was from over a month ago ^^^ ..... So, it was obviously a predictable situation.

Apparently, the Trump Administration got a clue that having a depleted National Weather Service staff heading into hurricane season might not be a good idea. After having just engaged in mass layoffs from DOGE cuts, the Trump Administration was forced to grant an exemption to the National Weather Service during the federal hiring freeze, allowing them to retool. That sure seems like an admission that Musk's cuts went too far, and were to the detriment of quality service.

Maybe Trump could make amends by sending them his Sharpie?
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When does a fully staffed (whatever that is) NWS take accountability for the weather when they get it wrong?
 
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C-south said:
When does a fully staffed (whatever that is) NWS take accountability for the weather when they get it wrong?
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That's using some twisted logic in justifying what should be an embarrassing set of circumstances for an administration ..... Having to exempt an agency from a federal hiring freeze and allow over a hundred new employees to be hired in order to compensate for the damage done by your "efficiency expert."
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
www.cbsnews.com

Short-staffed NWS enters hurricane season in "uncharted territory." Meteorologists share their concerns.

The 2025 Atlantic hurricane season begins during a tumultuous period at the National Weather Service, following significant cuts at the country's forecasting agency.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com

^^^ This was from over a month ago ^^^ ..... So, it was obviously a predictable situation.

Apparently, the Trump Administration got a clue that having a depleted National Weather Service staff heading into hurricane season might not be a good idea. After having just engaged in mass layoffs from DOGE cuts, the Trump Administration was forced to grant an exemption to the National Weather Service during the federal hiring freeze, allowing them to retool. That sure seems like an admission that Musk's cuts went too far, and were to the detriment of quality service.

Maybe Trump could make amends by sending them his Sharpie?
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isn’t that the way it is suppose to work. Cut a good portion of staff. Have an avenue for departments to demonstrate why staff is needed and it will be granted or not based on the department demonstrating the need for the extra staff.
 
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volbeast33 said:
isn’t that the way it is suppose to work. Cut a good portion of staff. Have an avenue for departments to demonstrate why staff is needed and it will be granted or not based on the department demonstrating the need for the extra staff.
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No, that's ridiculous. If the efficiency experts have made appropriate evaluations, then it should not be necessary to urgently fill "126 critical vacancies" just a few months after conducting mass layoffs of the same agency.

DOGE was a cluster f that has created chaos, and didn't save anything close to Musk's projections.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That's using some twisted logic in justifying what should be an embarrassing set of circumstances for an administration ..... Having to exempt an agency from a federal hiring freeze and allow over a hundred new employees to be hired in order to compensate for the damage done by your "efficiency expert."
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Why would it be embarrassing? If they went too far and walked it back that’s a good thing. I’m still not sure how having more people predicting the same weather changes what the weather actually does. I mean we still get weather warnings and just like always a lot of the times they’re wrong. This isn’t like hindering an agency for dei purposes or defunding the police that has a direct correlation to safety.
 
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volbeast33 said:
They completely screwed us in North Carolina with Hurricane Helene.
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I was affected by that as well but we can’t blame Trump for that. I can’t believe the Biden administration forecasters didn’t foresee towns wiped off the map so far inland. It’s weather and you never really know what it’s going to do but I’m sure we can go back and see how the dims defended the partisan response.
 
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C-south said:
Why would it be embarrassing? If they went too far and walked it back that’s a good thing. I’m still not sure how having more people predicting the same weather changes what the weather actually does. I mean we still get weather warnings and just like always a lot of the times they’re wrong. This isn’t like hindering an agency for dei purposes or defunding the police that has a direct correlation to safety.
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This is absurd.

I don't feel like I should have to explain why it should be embarrassing to have 126 "critical vacancies" in an agency, so soon after an efficiency task force conducted such a massive downsizing.

.... and you should read the article from CBS News. It explains some of the questions you have posed.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Just to be clear, you were 100% wrong here and have no intent of admitting?

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How many judges have been hired?

Did we at least replace the ones that Trump fired?

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Trump fires immigration judges while adding billions of dollars for ICE

Trump's massive spending packing is adding tens of billions for immigration enforcement and deportations. But immigration lawyers say it’s hard to imagine how that’ll happen with fewer judges on the bench.
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BowlBrother85 said:
This is absurd.

I don't feel like I should have to explain why it should be embarrassing to have 126 "critical vacancies" in an agency, so soon after an efficiency task force conducted such a massive downsizing.

.... and you should read the article from CBS News. It explains some of the questions you have posed.
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What were the “critical” vacancies? The article said that could be a lot of things without being specific. Who determines what full staffing is? The agency that’s being streamlined?
 
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BeardedVol said:
You're trying real hard to justify increasing ICE's detention budget by billions while pretending to be a "fiscal conservative".
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And now the topic changes.

You said if MAGA cared about legal immigration they’d increase the number of judges.

The bill did that. And now you’re doing your best to evade reality
 
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Vol8188 said:
And now the topic changes.

You said if MAGA cared about legal immigration they’d increase the number of judges.

Their hiring did that. And now you’re doing your best to evade reality
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