What is going on with the Big Beautiful Bill?

What's going on with the Big Beautiful Bill?

  • Trump is knowingly lying about Medicaid cuts

    Votes: 10 55.6%

  • Trump is being misled by his staff

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Tillis is lying

    Votes: 8 44.4%
  • Total voters
    18
  • Poll closed .
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Persian Vol said:
The U.S. spends more per capita on healthcare than any other country, yet ranks worse in infant mortality, life expectancy, and preventable deaths compared to other developed nations.

Yes, Medicaid exists, but it’s means-tested, varies wildly by state, and doesn’t guarantee consistent access to care. And our “free college” is mostly limited to community colleges, with public universities still saddling students with student debt. We’re the only developed country without federally mandated parental paid leave.

So yes, we pay more, get less, and have worse outcomes across the board compared to many European countries.
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Actually we have much better outcomes than other countries in cancer and heart disease. Universal healthcare isn't going to stop bad habits, overeating, murder, substance abuse and child neglect
 
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hog88 said:
Yes, I think we need to spend money on defense. The money we spend should be spent smarter for a more lean and deadly military and not the jobs program it has become.

When thinking of defense spending every congressman should remember one thing, the militarys purpose is to kill people and break shizz. Proposed spending that doesn't push toward that purpose is waste.
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Alot of the expenditures are University Research (I had a family member working at Vandy in research and alot of their programs where funded by military) as well as VA and benefits. These could be looked into. General Defense spending as well.
 
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Persian Vol said:
How would you restructure it?
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Good question.

I don't exactly have specifics other than:

1. Gradual move to privatizing SS accounts
2. Time limits on welfare and Medicaid for able bodied adults capable of working say 3 years in a row and 5 lifetime max
3. Allow a person on welfare/medicaid to work without income limits or penalties to build seniority/experience or go to school
 
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EasternVol said:
Why starting with SS, other than that's what talking heads tell you?
Personally I'd leave contributory programs untouched unless there's no other option.
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compulsory programs and there is more money going out of them than into them.
 
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hog88 said:
Actually we have much better outcomes than other countries in cancer and heart disease. Universal healthcare isn't going to stop bad habits, overeating, murder, substance abuse and child neglect
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They do that every time. Take non healthcare related outcomes and then proclaim “look! People in America lack access to healthcare”

Here’s an example. I’m trusting chat gpt on this, but in my experience it feels right. I have one I’m trying to get in for a liver biopsy right now. I imagine she will be scheduled in 2 weeks or less.
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I literally got her MRI scheduled for the next day after an incidental finding on her CT of her chest.

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hog88 said:
I would like a country where the vast majority of citizens do not rely on government (taxpayer) support to survive. That's never going to happen as long as big brother continues to give handouts.
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A government that gives you everything has the reciprocal ability to take away everything.
Remember that especially when someone starts talking about universal health care 😳
 
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jmacvols1 said:
compulsory programs and there is more money going out of them than into them.
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Yet there's individuals' and employers' money going into them, which can't be said for non-contributory programs. Tighten accountability in the DoD and we shouldn't need to touch SS.
 
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grok: The Republican House members who voted "no" on the "One Big Beautiful Bill Act" (often referred to as the BBB bill) on July 3, 2025, were Representative Thomas Massie of Kentucky and Representative Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania
 
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#244
jmacvols1 said:



grok: The Republican House members who voted "no" on the "One Big Beautiful Bill Act" (often referred to as the BBB bill) on July 3, 2025, were Representative Thomas Massie of Kentucky and Representative Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania
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He and Massie were the no votes.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Face facts. The republicans have never been serious about balancing the budget or reducing the debt.They are serious only about campaigning on it and insisting that they are for reducing the debt and that this time it will be different.

And then every time they cave.
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At this point using the R vs D is ancient. It’s uniparty vs citizens.

You need a software update
 
#247
#247
Persian Vol said:
What in particular?
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For example:
A head tax
- where everyone (who meets the qualifications) pays the same. Government services are equally for all so everyone pays an equal amount.
a national sales tax
- people who have more naturally consume more so the burden shifts towards them a bit more.
State tax
- each State collects revenue and sends their portion of funding to the federal.
Flat tax
- a flat percentage of all income regardless of source with no deductions or credits.
tax Return becomes a postcard.


There are more, but I am not as familiar with them.
None of the choices are perfect. What we have now isn't perfect. Perfection is not the goal. Revenue collected equal to expenses is the goal.
 
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