President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

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85SugarVol said:
1) You don’t believe Lincoln was serial Rights violator, or you are simply ignorant to it? A highschool sophomore could easily produce his record for examination.

2) His views were always clear - in words, thoughts, and deeds. Perhaps no clearer than when presented with the opportunity to free his wife’s family slaves.

3) I can only assume that sounded more clever in your head than it reads on the page. It was you who levied the charge of uneducated, and now when challenged are seemingly retreating back to a position akin to “it doesn’t matter”. Which ironically is the position you were originally arguing against. How completely unsurprising and apropos for you.
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1) That way over-simplifies the matter. Not surprising. You are a simple-minded person.

2) LOL. You aren't saying a damn thing.

3) See #2.
 
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Buddy’s Bandit said:
Have you ever objectively looked at this and asked if you are so blinded by your dislike of Trump that you are unwilling to give the man ANY credit ?
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I gave him credit this week for the strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities. It was a bold decision, which needed to be done.

It also went against the isolationist/non-interventionist faction of his base of support, which is rare for him, and required decisive leadership.

Have you ever objectively evaluated Donald Trump's personality traits and asked yourself why he mandates public praise and adoration from his cabinet members during televised portions of their meetings (circle jerks)? ... and why trivial individual accolades and acknowledgments are so important to Donald Trump, that he whines about not receiving them constantly, and then even plays the victim card over not getting them?

It is pathetic how much Donald Trump has obsessed over the Nobel Peace Prize. Only a narcissistic, egomaniac would do this. It really does drive home how much his followers devotion to him, is unconditional. Collectively, you not only support and defend him for such blatant egotism, but you play the victim card right along with him, as though you have been slighted yourselves. Donald Trump tells you what to think .... and you think it, without doing any critical thinking for yourselves.
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
You've asked me to do that several times & I've stated I like to read the dumb crap you post so I can point and 🤣 laugh my butt off at what a lunatic cult of Biden idiocy you belong to.
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Your childish projection is pretty damn funny.

This post of yours is on the 3rd grade playground level of "Same to you, but more of it." That's about as deep as you normally go. Your primary mode of argument, is to just repeat whatever I have said to you and pretend as though that serves as some sort of slick rebuttal.
 
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Vol423 said:
That is not even close to the truth? Dozens? You don't think you've posted WELL MORE than dozens of times about Trump in the last 7 years?
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About Trump's obsession with the Nobel Peace Prize? LOL. I don't know exactly or frankly even care ..... you guys harped on various things concerning Biden all the time ....

You are sensitive to Trump being called out for his egotistical displays. That's because. in your hearts, you know how pathetic he is.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
About Trump's obsession with the Nobel Peace Prize? LOL. I don't know exactly or frankly even care ..... you guys harped on various things concerning Biden all the time ....

You are sensitive to Trump being called out for his egotistical displays. That's because. in your hearts, you know how pathetic he is.
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That was a beautiful attempt to deflect, but his post was about your posts about Trump, not about “Trump’s obsession with the Nobel Peace Prize” and you know it. That’s why it took you about 10 hours to finally offer up this weak-ass response.

Regarding Trump, I call him out often. I think he’s a first class, egotistical jackass. However, he is a good President whose policies are, on a net basis, very good for the country.
 
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I gave him credit this week for the strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities. It was a bold decision, which needed to be done.

It also went against the isolationist/non-interventionist faction of his base of support, which is rare for him, and required decisive leadership.

Have you ever objectively evaluated Donald Trump's personality traits and asked yourself why he mandates public praise and adoration from his cabinet members during televised portions of their meetings (circle jerks)? ... and why trivial individual accolades and acknowledgments are so important to Donald Trump, that he whines about not receiving them constantly, and then even plays the victim card over not getting them?

It is pathetic how much Donald Trump has obsessed over the Nobel Peace Prize. Only a narcissistic, egomaniac would do this. It really does drive home how much his followers devotion to him, is unconditional. Collectively, you not only support and defend him for such blatant egotism, but you play the victim card right along with him, as though you have been slighted yourselves. Donald Trump tells you what to think .... and you think it, without doing any critical thinking for yourselves.
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Honestly, I don’t get into personality traits with the President UNLESS it affects his ability to do the job (Biden). Why do I care?? I only want the president to make us secure, safe, and prosperous. Trump has/is far exceeded all of those requirements.

I do objectively look at him from time to time and wonder how he deals with the lies, innuendos, slanders, and insults he AND his family have had to deal with over the last 13-14 years. If put in his position, objectively, I am not sure many of us could handle it as well as he and his family have. Think about it.

Honestly, @BowlBrother85 , put party aside and for a moment, and I know this is hard for you to do, put personality aside, are you not pleased with where our country is heading ?

1) We seem to be headed towards a period of peace and diplomacy in the Middle East. We have the Abraham Accord waiting to strengthen that position with Iran but with other countries as well.

2) The border is secure. I am concerned about those who are here illegally to do harm to our country but at least that possibility is now stopped due to the work being done by Noem/Holman.

3) Inflation is slowly moving to our rear view mirror. I am concerned about our debt and want to see more action there. That will take some time as we move towards a revenue side solution. I have confidence that the team in place has modeled this out and sees a brighter future. I will be watching this. Stocks are at an all time hIgh despite all the concerns around tariffs. I am confident he will continue to navigate this as he did in his first term and this will be a positive.

4) There seems to be a positivity about our country that we have not seen in a long time. I believe simple policy position like no tax on tips /overtime/ SS, taking boys out of girls bathrooms/sports, cutting crazy spending here and abroad (we have all seen them with DOGE), respecting our first responders, the transparency that has never been seen before by this administration are all simple and effective decisions/actions that have positively impacted nearly every American. People are liking what they are seeing/feeling despite their TDS. Evidence of this is in the WH briefing room and the attitude reporters are having with KL. It is changing and in a positive way.

Further examples of the attitude changing is the migration of people away from high taxes, high regulatory states like California/New York and moving to lower taxes states like Texas, Florida and Tennessee. I have witnessed this first hand here in West Knoxville. It is real and those people will tell you how happy they are to leave IT behind.

5) This will take time but I know people are feeling better about being judged by their effort/skill/performance rather than their race and gender. Let’s get beyond this. Deep down, people want personal satisfaction knowing their success is based on their effort and talents rather than how they look or think.

Finally, Dems need to start offering real ideas about how to move this country forward. I believe in freedom of speech and the right to protest but destruction and belligerent attitudes on the street are not helping the democrats. Call me crazy, but I believe there are opportunities here. Fetterman and others have shown the propensity to want to work to bring forth ideas to make America better. Ideas are great…..distruction is not.

Finally, I know what this post will bring. Many will pull bits and pieces and slam it with obscure examples. That is fine but remember, this movement is too big to deny. People of all race, creeds and colors are feeling the positive energy that is being derived and they want it to continue. To continue to deny it is only making yourselves more miserable.
 
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VOLLeeann said:
'Cruelty and criminality': Experts say Trump 'incapable of grasping how despised he is'
Most would call this a mental illness. You?

MSN

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What is ‘Trump Derangement Syndrome’ – and do you have it?​


Urban Dictionary offers up this handy definition: “Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has been driven effectively insane due to their dislike of Donald Trump, to the point at which they will abandon all logic and reason.”

Justin Raimondo, the editorial director of Antiwar.com, wrote a piece in the Los Angeles Times in 2016 that broke TDS down into three distinct phases or stages:

  1. “In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of proportion. The president-elect’s every tweet provokes a firestorm, as if 140 characters were all it took to change the world.”
  2. “The mid-level stages of TDS have a profound effect on the victim’s vocabulary: Sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting solely of hyperbole.”
  3. “As TDS progresses, the afflicted lose the ability to distinguish fantasy from reality.”
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
Oops. :eek: Always such a drama queen w/you. Happens from time to time. Sometimes they get the wrong house number or the wrong street name. This isn't MAGA's fault lame brain.
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Right house number, right street. Can you spot the problems with the way the raid was conducted?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I gave him credit this week for the strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities. It was a bold decision, which needed to be done.

It also went against the isolationist/non-interventionist faction of his base of support, which is rare for him, and required decisive leadership.

Have you ever objectively evaluated Donald Trump's personality traits and asked yourself why he mandates public praise and adoration from his cabinet members during televised portions of their meetings (circle jerks)? ... and why trivial individual accolades and acknowledgments are so important to Donald Trump, that he whines about not receiving them constantly, and then even plays the victim card over not getting them?

It is pathetic how much Donald Trump has obsessed over the Nobel Peace Prize. Only a narcissistic, egomaniac would do this. It really does drive home how much his followers devotion to him, is unconditional. Collectively, you not only support and defend him for such blatant egotism, but you play the victim card right along with him, as though you have been slighted yourselves. Donald Trump tells you what to think .... and you think it, without doing any critical thinking for yourselves.
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It wasn't a bold decision. It was dumbassery letting Netanyahu maneuver him into following Bibi's agenda and timetable. He basically let himself and the rest of us get drafted into Israel's war on Iran.
 
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Golden Age: Stocks Soar To Record Highs as Inflation Stays Cool, Trump Forges Middle East Peace, and Tax Deal Gains Steam

Inflation is down, wages are up, and the stock market is hitting record highs. | Economy
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"U.S. stocks climbed to new all-time highs Friday as investors reacted to a trifecta of favorable developments: inflation continuing to cool despite tariffs, the end of the Iran-Israel war, and growing signs that President Trump’s tax legislation is advancing in Congress."
 
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EasternVol said:
It wasn't a bold decision. It was dumbassery letting Netanyahu maneuver him into following Bibi's agenda and timetable. He basically let himself and the rest of us get drafted into Israel's war on Iran.
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I like to bash Trump as much as anyone, but I disagree here. Perhaps, he was suaded by Netanyahu's antics .... and yet, I still come out on the side of being pro-active in disabling Iran's nuclear program at this moment .... I think it was important for the United States to show Iran that we won't always remain on the sideline.

I don't think it commits us to any prolonged military engagement, but we'll have to wait and see on that ....
 
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Birthright citizenship……here we go.


Slice is very much opposed to presidential orders.
Especially on something as important as birthright citizenship.

-birthright citizenship is established law
-if there’s a change it’s congress job to do. Not a presidential order.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
1) That way over-simplifies the matter. Not surprising. You are a simple-minded person.

2) LOL. You aren't saying a damn thing.

3) See #2.
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So to sum up:

- You are neither acknowledging, or attempting to refute, Lincoln’s long and detailed record of Rights abuses.
- You continue to duck the education angle that you brought up, now that you (surprisingly) realize it is you who would be the uneducated rube here.
- You have been reduced to essentially “no, you are” posts.
 
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85SugarVol said:
So to sum up:

- You are neither acknowledging, or attempting to refute, Lincoln’s long and detailed record of Rights abuses.
- You continue to duck the education angle that you brought up, now that you (surprisingly) realize it is you who would be the uneducated rube here.
- You have been reduced to essentially “no, you are” posts.
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To say that you are over-simplifying things would be an understatement of epic proportions.

Lincoln suspended the writ of habeas corpus. However, the Constitution allows for this in cases of rebellion or invasion when public safety may require it. Some will argue over who has the power to suspend it, the President or Congress .... but the circumstances in play during Lincoln's presidency justified it.

Then you have the Emancipation Proclamation, which was an executive order, not a law passed by Congress. Some simple-minded fools such as yourself may argue that exceeded presidential power. While a more thorough review would reveal that Lincoln's actions were necessary to preserve the Union ... which was ultimately achieved.

I'm not "ducking" the education angle. LOL. I believe firmly in what I said. You are over-simplifying the discussion to an extreme, and ignoring the overall. It would take a lot for me to be reduced to your level of one dimensional thinking, where there can be no exceptions made to account for extraordinary events.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
To say that you are over-simplifying things would be an understatement of epic proportions.

Lincoln suspended the writ of habeas corpus. However, the Constitution allows for this in cases of rebellion or invasion when public safety may require it. Some will argue over who has the power to suspend it, the President or Congress .... but the circumstances in play during Lincoln's presidency justified it.

Then you have the Emancipation Proclamation, which was an executive order, not a law passed by Congress. Some simple-minded fools such as yourself may argue that exceeded presidential power. While a more thorough review would reveal that Lincoln's actions were necessary to preserve the Union ... which was ultimately achieved.

I'm not "ducking" the education angle. LOL. I believe firmly in what I said. You are over-simplifying the discussion to an extreme, and ignoring the overall. It would take a lot for me to be reduced to your level of one dimensional thinking, where there can be no exceptions made to account for extraordinary events.
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What an absolute white-wash.

- Lincoln suspended habeas corpus and arrested 1000’s in the North for criticizing his policies. (Hardly putting down rebellion)
- Lincoln shut down 100’s of newspapers that criticized him, and arrested the editors. (Adams & Jefferson would have been so proud)
- Lincoln of course bombed civilian centers in Charleston & Atlanta that were devoid of troops.

Yea, you’re absolutely ducking the education charge you laid down -

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3) A resentment … often held by people who didn't go to college, but still think of themselves as being intellectually superior
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When challenged, you tucked tail and attempted to slink away. Adopting more of an “it doesn’t matter” position.

Not surprising. Very on brand for you.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I like to bash Trump as much as anyone, but I disagree here. Perhaps, he was suaded by Netanyahu's antics .... and yet, I still come out on the side of being pro-active in disabling Iran's nuclear program at this moment .... I think it was important for the United States to show Iran that we won't always remain on the sideline.

I don't think it commits us to any prolonged military engagement, but we'll have to wait and see on that ....
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Maybe it would have eventually been prudent to attack Iran's nuclear capabilities. Doing it when and under the circumstances we did was not in our best interests.
 
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85SugarVol said:
What an absolute white-wash.

- Lincoln suspended habeas corpus and arrested 1000’s in the North for criticizing his policies. (Hardly putting down rebellion)
- Lincoln shut down 100’s of newspapers that criticized him, and arrested the editors. (Adams & Jefferson would have been so proud)
- Lincoln of course bombed civilian centers in Charleston & Atlanta that were devoid of troops.

Yea, you’re absolutely ducking the education charge you laid down -



When challenged, you tucked tail and attempted to slink away. Adopting more of an “it doesn’t matter” position.

Not surprising. Very on brand for you.
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LOL .... "Attempted to slink away."

You are the epitome of what I described .... but it's fun to be a contrarian, isn't it? Makes you feel like you have some keen insight and understanding that people who research history for a living have missed.

Lincoln's actions preserved the Union, which was in grave peril.

Because of your simple-mindedness, you are analyzing Lincoln's actions in a vacuum, and only considering his decisions in isolation, without taking into account the extraordinary external influences and interconnectedness of the Civil War. You are ignoring the broader situation and it's impact.

I realize you fancy yourself an intellect, above your fellow MAGA faithful .... but close scrutiny reveals you to be every bit as simple your Trump brethren.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
LOL .... "Attempted to slink away."

You are the epitome of what I described .... but it's fun to be a contrarian, isn't it? Makes you feel like you have some keen insight and understanding that people who research history for a living have missed.

Lincoln's actions preserved the Union, which was in grave peril.

Because of your simple-mindedness, you are analyzing Lincoln's actions in a vacuum, and only considering his decisions in isolation, without taking into account the extraordinary external influences and interconnectedness of the Civil War. You are ignoring the broader situation and it's impact.

I realize you fancy yourself an intellect, above your fellow MAGA faithful .... but close scrutiny reveals you to be every bit as simple your Trump brethren.
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What a word salad....Congrats!
 
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