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Hope the fearmongering, US hating halfwits at all the MSM stations and CNN etc get ridiculed endlessly for all the stress they put on the gullible Leftists and others with their " WW3 we are all dead!!" Bullcrap. Been screaming that nonsense 24-7 along with some of the idiots on here. There's no excuse for it...just like the riots in LA, the BLM bullcrap and the Burning Looting Murdering that was not only allowed but encouraged by the Left. You Liberals have no shame and neither does your propaganda machine known as the MSM. The lies are constant at this point...both on TV and the net. Logic and reason were casualties long ago. Accountability and honesty are foreign concepts to the Globalist machine. The Democrat party and your Socialist bent has no message, no good ideas, and a track record as successful as cancer...always deadly to the host, with no real cure in sight. Reading some of the drivel posted in this thread has been both discouraging and disgusting. Some of you are so clearly obsessed with Trump and brainwashed by the degenerate Left that you clearly hope for the failure and destruction of your own country...just so you can claim to be "right". That's disgusting and reprehensible and you deserve every bit of the chastising you receive here in the PF.

Our government has clearly failed our citizens, both Republicans and Democrats alike based simply on the fact that we have steadily regressed and society has marched endlessly towards our destruction over my entire 48 years of life...but you America hating so called "Progressives" are an embarrassment even in this current caricature of a once great nation. The hyper-Left Socialist/Communist militants that have hijacked the Democrat party are THE greatest threat to this country both today and in the foreseeable future. Truly a festering boil on the ass of humanity. Mutually assured destruction will hold our "near peer adversaries" in check just as it has since WW2...a fact that logical folks understand and hold dear. Our nuclear arsenal demands respect and fear among those who wish us harm. The greatest threat to our nation is not from without, but from within. The Left will be our end. Those who abandon morals, pragmatism and reason in the name of "progress". Just like the Roman Empire. Our destruction will come not by some great war, but from the slow decay of the very principles that this nation was founded upon. Destruction comes disguised as "progress" to those who cannot tell them apart. This due to ignorance, apathy, and especiallly distraction. The 3 core tenets of the modern Left. They combine to be incredibly effective, I must admit.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Oh but I thought Iran were religious fanatics who couldn't be trusted to not use a nuke the second they develop it. That's why we had to attack them.

And now we're trusting the same religious fanatics that would use a nuke if they had one with a ceasefire?

Look at the end of the day either Iran is a rational player on the world stage or a bunch of religious fanatics that can't be trusted. You can't have it both ways. You can't tell me that we had to attack them because they can't be trusted but then turn around declare victory when they agree to a ceasefire like any other rational actor.
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Your first mistake was trusting ANY government.
 
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pjmedia.com

Democrats Got Caught in a Huge Lie About Trump’s Iran Strike

Democrats caught spreading false claims about Trump's Iran strike, facing backlash from the White House.
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"The White House, contrary to the manufactured narrative, conducted its due diligence and reached out to leaders on both sides of the aisle. The administration’s outreach efforts were comprehensive, but in a detail that speaks volumes, the top Democrat in the House was apparently unavailable to take a call of such national security importance.

Leavitt revealed the specifics of the outreach, exposing the disingenuous nature of the complaints.

"In fact, Hakeem Jeffries couldn't be reached," she explained. "We tried him before the strike and he didn't pick up the phone, but he was briefed after, as well as Chuck Schumer was briefed prior to the strike."

So not only was the Senate Minority Leader informed beforehand, but the administration also followed up with the House Minority Leader after their initial attempt to reach him was unsuccessful.

Predictably, CNN led the charge in broadcasting the false claim, running with a story that the White House had snubbed Democrats. It was the exact kind of anti-administration narrative the network eagerly promotes, facts be damned. But this time, the White House had the receipts.

The lie was so egregious and so easily disproven that even CNN and Sen. Schumer's office, once confronted with incontrovertible evidence, had to beat a hasty retreat. "So this notion that CNN ran with, that the White House did not give a heads-up to Democrats is just completely false," Leavitt declared. "In fact, both Sen. Schumer's office and CNN had to retract that story last night because it was a blatant lie, and we showed them the timestamps from those phone calls."

Whoops
 
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OHvol40 said:
You guys are turning this into some kind of defensive position on Trump’s survivability past this term. Touchy touchy. Don’t be so tense. The original comment I made was a prediction that Trump would not leave office if he is alive for the next term. Let’s keep the main thing, the main thing.
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I'll take that bet.
 
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OHvol40 said:
You guys are turning this into some kind of defensive position on Trump’s survivability past this term. Touchy touchy. Don’t be so tense. The original comment I made was a prediction that Trump would not leave office if he is alive for the next term. Let’s keep the main thing, the main thing.
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You’re upset he’s still alive. Statistically he’ll be alive past his term.
 
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MontyPython said:
Did Tulsi gabbard say Iran wasn’t building a nuclear weapon. Was this proven wrong?
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She said the IC gave the opinion that they were not at that time, and them clarified with reasons that that opinion could be wrong, and that they were continually monitoring the situation.

She NEVER said that they weren't, which is significant, considering that the beef you guys were trying to create was that she said that SHE BELIEVED that they weren't, and so Trump was ignoring her.

Everything else is just goalpost-shifting on your part.

It's OK to be wrong on the internet. You'll survive a brief, "Yah, my bad."
 
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OHvol40 said:
You guys are turning this into some kind of defensive position on Trump’s survivability past this term. Touchy touchy. Don’t be so tense. The original comment I made was a prediction that Trump would not leave office if he is alive for the next term. Let’s keep the main thing, the main thing.
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😅
 
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Orange_Crush said:
She said the IC gave the opinion that they were not at that time, and them clarified with reasons that that opinion could be wrong, and that they were continually monitoring the situation.

She NEVER said that they weren't, which is significant, considering that the beef you guys were trying to create was that she said that SHE BELIEVED that they weren't, and so Trump was ignoring her.

Everything else is just goalpost-shifting on your part.

It's OK to be wrong on the internet. You'll survive a brief, "Yah, my bad."
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Her words were: "The IC continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon and Supreme Leader Khamenei has not authorized the nuclear weapons program that he suspended in 2003. The IC continues to monitor, closely, if Tehran decides to reauthorize its nuclear weapons program." She then went on with the complementary information about enrichment levels and Iranian discussions of nuclear weapons.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
She said the IC gave the opinion that they were not at that time, and them clarified with reasons that that opinion could be wrong, and that they were continually monitoring the situation.

She NEVER said that they weren't, which is significant, considering that the beef you guys were trying to create was that she said that SHE BELIEVED that they weren't, and so Trump was ignoring her.

Everything else is just goalpost-shifting on your part.

It's OK to be wrong on the internet. You'll survive a brief, "Yah, my bad."
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A valiant effort. But you must know in your heart it is futile. If he really wanted the truth as he claimed, he might be receptive. But at this point, he's incapable.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
She said the IC gave the opinion that they were not at that time, and them clarified with reasons that that opinion could be wrong, and that they were continually monitoring the situation.

She NEVER said that they weren't, which is significant, considering that the beef you guys were trying to create was that she said that SHE BELIEVED that they weren't, and so Trump was ignoring her.

Everything else is just goalpost-shifting on your part.

It's OK to be wrong on the internet. You'll survive a brief, "Yah, my bad."
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It’s really not that hard to understand.
Unless you’re trying to make it into something it’s not.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Hope the fearmongering, US hating halfwits at all the MSM stations and CNN etc get ridiculed endlessly for all the stress they put on the gullible Leftists and others with their " WW3 we are all dead!!" Bullcrap. Been screaming that nonsense 24-7 along with some of the idiots on here. There's no excuse for it...just like the riots in LA, the BLM bullcrap and the Burning Looting Murdering that was not only allowed but encouraged by the Left. You Liberals have no shame and neither does your propaganda machine known as the MSM. The lies are constant at this point...both on TV and the net. Logic and reason were casualties long ago. Accountability and honesty are foreign concepts to the Globalist machine. The Democrat party and your Socialist bent has no message, no good ideas, and a track record as successful as cancer...always deadly to the host, with no real cure in sight. Reading some of the drivel posted in this thread has been both discouraging and disgusting. Some of you are so clearly obsessed with Trump and brainwashed by the degenerate Left that you clearly hope for the failure and destruction of your own country...just so you can claim to be "right". That's disgusting and reprehensible and you deserve every bit of the chastising you receive here in the PF.

Our government has clearly failed our citizens, both Republicans and Democrats alike based simply on the fact that we have steadily regressed and society has marched endlessly towards our destruction over my entire 48 years of life...but you America hating so called "Progressives" are an embarrassment even in this current caricature of a once great nation. The hyper-Left Socialist/Communist militants that have hijacked the Democrat party are THE greatest threat to this country both today and in the foreseeable future. Truly a festering boil on the ass of humanity. Mutually assured destruction will hold our "near peer adversaries" in check just as it has since WW2...a fact that logical folks understand and hold dear. Our nuclear arsenal demands respect and fear among those who wish us harm. The greatest threat to our nation is not from without, but from within. The Left will be our end. Those who abandon morals, pragmatism and reason in the name of "progress". Just like the Roman Empire. Our destruction will come not by some great war, but from the slow decay of the very principles that this nation was founded upon. Destruction comes disguised as "progress" to those who cannot tell them apart. This due to ignorance, apathy, and especiallly distraction. The 3 core tenets of the modern Left. They combine to be incredibly effective, I must admit.
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Can I get an amen. 👍
 
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OHvol40 said:
You guys are turning this into some kind of defensive position on Trump’s survivability past this term. Touchy touchy. Don’t be so tense. The original comment I made was a prediction that Trump would not leave office if he is alive for the next term. Let’s keep the main thing, the main thing.
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Same offer as @McDad, but add a zero. I want to see just how nuts you really are.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Lol
Nobody is going to walk in and solve the problems of the Middle East.
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Trump's foreign policy has been: we aren't the world's policeman.

He did great. We went in, used our exclusive ability to take out or try to take out a bunch of centrifuges. It was our mission and it was very limited, as our missions should be around the world.

Now get out. Shut up. Move on. If they continue fighting, it's not our problem. If they can achieve a ceasefire for awhile, great. If they break it, it's not the first nor last BUT we did our part, now let them decide what comes of it.

Our limited mission was destroy the centrifuges Israel couldn't take out. After that STFU. We aren't the world's policeman.
 
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