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Vol737 said:
Is it starting one, or ending one before it starts? I empathize with the Iranian people, they don’t deserve what they’ve lived with for 45 years.
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What makes any rational person think this is the end of the conflict?
 
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An Iranian state TV news anchor showed a map of U.S. bases in the Middle East, which says are all “within fire range of Iran.” The anchor goes on to say “Mr. Trump, you started it, and we will end it.”

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Iran State TV Anchor to Trump: 'You Started It, We will End It'

An Iranian state TV news anchor showed a map of U.S. bases in the Middle East, which says are all "within fire range of Iran." The anchor goes on to say "Mr. Trump, you started it, and we will end it." | Border / Cartel Chronicles
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Coy53175 said:
I would like to ask you one question. Have you ever laced your boots up on foreign soil? Our soldiers are at risk and targeted every single day at these bases in the Middle East.
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The same level of risk when the president bombs another countries nuclear facilities?
 
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MontyPython said:
Hmmm... Assuming no regime change, what's to prevent Iran from now building a nuclear facility a mile underground - beyond the reach of our bunker busters? What's going to stop them from now enriching all the Uranium that they likely moved?

You want to put American boots on the ground next to stop Iran from obtaining nukes?

Have you paused to actually think this whole thing through?

Nope.
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Because every aspect of the Iranian Government, military and other government agencies are completely compromised. They’ll never be able to get that far . The initial strike by the Israelis proved that.
 
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To estimate the kinetic energy of a GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP) bomb, we need its mass and velocity at impact. The GBU-57 weighs approximately 30,000 pounds (13,600 kg). The exact impact velocity is classified, but sources estimate it exceeds Mach 1 (approximately 767 mph or 343 m/s at sea level) when dropped from a B-2 Spirit bomber at 50,000 feet.

For calculation, let’s assume a conservative impact velocity of 343 m/s (Mach 1). Kinetic energy is given by:

$ KE = \frac{1}{2} m v^2 $
Where:

$ m = 13,600 \, \text{kg} $
$ v = 343 \, \text{m/s} $

$ KE = \frac{1}{2} \times 13,600 \times (343)^2 $
$ KE = \frac{1}{2} \times 13,600 \times 117,649 $
$ KE = 6,800 \times 117,649 $
$ KE \approx 800,013,200 \, \text{Joules} $

So, the kinetic energy is approximately 800 megajoules (MJ). Some sources suggest it could be 800–900 MJ depending on higher velocity estimates (e.g., slightly above Mach 1).

This is a rough estimate, as actual velocity varies with drop conditions, drag, and terminal velocity dynamics. For context, this energy is equivalent to the kinetic impact of a 285-ton Boeing 747 landing at 170 mph, concentrated into a small area for penetration.
 
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MontyPython said:
To estimate the kinetic energy of a GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP) bomb, we need its mass and velocity at impact. The GBU-57 weighs approximately 30,000 pounds (13,600 kg). The exact impact velocity is classified, but sources estimate it exceeds Mach 1 (approximately 767 mph or 343 m/s at sea level) when dropped from a B-2 Spirit bomber at 50,000 feet.

For calculation, let’s assume a conservative impact velocity of 343 m/s (Mach 1). Kinetic energy is given by:

$ KE = \frac{1}{2} m v^2 $
Where:

$ m = 13,600 \, \text{kg} $
$ v = 343 \, \text{m/s} $

$ KE = \frac{1}{2} \times 13,600 \times (343)^2 $
$ KE = \frac{1}{2} \times 13,600 \times 117,649 $
$ KE = 6,800 \times 117,649 $
$ KE \approx 800,013,200 \, \text{Joules} $

So, the kinetic energy is approximately 800 megajoules (MJ). Some sources suggest it could be 800–900 MJ depending on higher velocity estimates (e.g., slightly above Mach 1).

This is a rough estimate, as actual velocity varies with drop conditions, drag, and terminal velocity dynamics. For context, this energy is equivalent to the kinetic impact of a 285-ton Boeing 747 landing at 170 mph, concentrated into a small area for penetration.
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when I signed up on VN, it was my understanding no math involved
 
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The damage caused by 800 megajoules (MJ) of kinetic energy, as delivered by a GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP), depends on several factors, including the target type, impact conditions, and energy transfer efficiency. Here’s a breakdown to contextualize the destructive potential:

1. Energy Scale

800 MJ is equivalent to approximately 191 kilograms of TNT (using the conversion 1 kg TNT ≈ 4.184 MJ).

This is a significant amount of energy, but the GBU-57’s destructive power is amplified by its design: a focused, penetrating impact followed by an explosive payload (estimated at 2,700 kg of high explosive, contributing far more energy than the kinetic component alone).

2. Damage Mechanisms

The GBU-57 is designed to penetrate hardened targets (e.g., bunkers, underground facilities) before detonating. The 800 MJ of kinetic energy primarily aids penetration, while the explosive payload causes the majority of the structural damage. Here’s how the kinetic energy contributes:

Penetration: The kinetic energy allows the bomb to burrow through 60–200 feet (18–60 meters) of reinforced concrete or earth, depending on the target’s composition. The high velocity (estimated ~343 m/s or Mach 1) and mass (13,600 kg) concentrate this energy into a small impact area, enabling it to defeat heavily fortified structures.

Shockwave and Cratering: Upon impact, the kinetic energy generates a localized shockwave, fracturing materials like concrete or rock. The crater size depends on the medium but could be several meters wide and deep in softer materials like soil. In harder targets, the energy dissipates into fracturing and heating the material.

3. Comparative Damage

Kinetic vs. Explosive: The 800 MJ kinetic energy is dwarfed by the explosive payload’s energy (estimated at ~11,300 MJ for 2,700 kg of explosive). The kinetic energy’s role is to ensure the bomb reaches the target depth; the explosion then causes catastrophic damage, collapsing structures, destroying equipment, and creating lethal overpressure.

Example Scenarios:

Reinforced Bunker: The kinetic energy enables penetration through multiple layers of concrete, after which the explosion could collapse a large underground facility (e.g., 50–100 meters in diameter), rendering it inoperable.

Surface Impact: If detonated on the surface (less likely), the combined kinetic and explosive energy could create a crater 10–20 meters wide and several meters deep in soil, with a blast radius causing severe damage over hundreds....
 
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It was Tomahawks off Fast Attacks that were the opening salvos of Desert Storm. Incredible weapons platform.
 
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From Iran's perspective, nothing too strange has happened. Iran has been waiting for an attack on Fordow for several nights. The site has long been evacuated and has not suffered any irreversible damage in the attack. Two things are certain: First, knowledge cannot be bombed, and second, the gambler will lose this time.
 
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Just here to see if Monty acknowledged he was wrong for this TACO comments.

J/K

i was 70/30 against this move but appears to have been well planned and executed so let's all hope the net effect is positive. Without a doubt there will be unforeseen outcomes both positive and negative.
 
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