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RockyTop140 said:
Your 4th question is where you have to use your own intuition. That is the most important question and it’s why you were asked to go on record in the first place
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The fourth is very much a function of the third. I don't see Trump agreeing to be involved unless he were confident that the current regime was done for.
 
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hog88 said:
The Iranian people have been living under a tyrannical theocratic regime for almost 50 years, I think they have had enough and we should trust them to form a more moderate secular government.
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The Iraqis HAD a secular tyrannical govt when we invaded. We've been unable to reform a stable secular govt there and if we completely left it would very likely turn into a non-secular Muslim govt within months.

Power has a way of sustaining itself and the Revolutionary Guard in Iran who wield a lot of guns are extremely tied to the shia imams who wield A LOT of moral power there.

It's a double whammy. What the imams say will go to the hearts of the people. What the imams can't control, the Revolutionary Guard can kill and has a history of killing in Iran.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
The Iraqis HAD a secular tyrannical govt when we invaded. We've been unable to reform a stable secular govt there and if we completely left it would very likely turn into a non-secular Muslim govt within months.

Power has a way of sustaining itself and the Revolutionary Guard in Iran who wield a lot of guns are extremely tied to the shia imams who wield A LOT of moral power there.

It's a double whammy. What the imams say will go to the hearts of the people. What the imams can't control, the Revolutionary Guard can kill and has a history of killing in Iran.
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Iranians are not Iraqis, two completely different people.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The fourth is very much a function of the third. I don't see Trump agreeing to be involved unless he were confident that the current regime was done for.
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Yes, but there may be consequences even if it is successful in ending the current regime. If we knew there would be no consequences the entire question becomes a no brainer. The new regime may not be all that different. As we’ve learned
 
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ButchPlz said:
I've had nothing but incredible experiences with Persian people. One of my best friends from high school married a Persian girl and her entire family was beyond welcoming and threw an incredible party. My old fitness trainer is Persian and my wife tutored her kids in math and Spanish. Incredible woman. Meanwhile, and yes it's an anecdote, the single Israeli I worked with embezzled money from our company. Wonderful! I still won't judge all the people of Israel, but their government is garbage.

Imagine if some mystery power looked at the riots and protests in the US and decided unilaterally that we needed to be destroyed. Say bye to grandma. Say bye to your kids. Say bye to your wife and all your family. Now imagine if I watched all the footage of Israelis celebrating 9/11 and said we needed to eradicate all of Israel. That's what these brainlet idiots are advocating for when they say "I want them all dead!". That's what the demoniac Bibi advocates for almost every time he opens his piehole and says he's not interested in peace.
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You and your conspiracies are next level crazy.
 
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ButchPlz said:
The head of intelligence under Trump just said Iran isn't building a nuke.

Also, Israel cannot and should not have a nuke given the corruption of their leadership and their penchant to steal things from us and lead false flag operations, yet they still do, without actually having signed on to any treaties or agreements regulating their control and use.

This is the same ****ing playbook as Iraq and you absolute idiots are eating it up again.
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Then why does Iran have had so many nuclear scientists and facilities?
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
They haven't in a half a century. I'm not an expert on Iran but I STRONGLY suspect the religious based govt has indoctrinated a couple of generations of younger Iranians toward a more radical look at the world.

I'm extremely doubtful after about 50yrs of shia imams controlling every aspect of education in the country that most Iranians are "live and let live" Muslims.
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You certainly are not an expert. The overwhelming majority of younger Iranians are oppositional toward the regime with a strong distaste for religion.
 
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hog88 said:
Iranians are not Iraqis, two completely different people.
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Iraq is a country that really should have never been a country. Two-thirds Shia, one-third Sunni, and the strongman who ran it for a long time was in the minority. Syria is the exact same way.

Fortunately Iran does have more cohesive demographics.
 
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hog88 said:
The Iranian people have been living under a tyrannical theocratic regime for almost 50 years, I think they have had enough and we should trust them to form a more moderate secular government.
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If anything it’s like sheltered kids with overly strict parents who leave their parents house for college for the first time. The horniness will be at unprecedented levels.
 
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MAD said:
You and your conspiracies are next level crazy.
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What conspiracies? I shared anecdotes and said that wishing for destruction of entire countries is bad.

We already know you were among the hostile people wanting those that didn't take the COVID shot dead. Perhaps you are in favor of mass destruction?
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
Then why does Iran have had so many nuclear scientists and facilities?
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Ask someone that knows more than you. I asked you who established this current government. I assume (rightly) that you are ignorant, which is why you decline to answer or post anything of value.
 
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ButchPlz said:
Ask someone that knows more than you. I asked you who established this current government. I assume (rightly) that you are ignorant, which is why you decline to answer or post anything of value.
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Ummm, are you talking about yourself?

An oldie but goodie….

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#2,895
ButchPlz said:
Ask someone that knows more than you. I asked you who established this current government. I assume (rightly) that you are ignorant, which is why you decline to answer or post anything of value.
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I don't know it was before my time but I assume your going to say Israel and/or thr US.
 
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