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#2,752
I remember 9.11.01.
I remember the Boston Marathon.
I remember New Orleans.
I remember the attacks all over Europe every year since they opened their doors to muslim "refugees".

Iran is by far the greatest sponsor of terrorist groups on Earth. From Hezbollah to Hamas to dozens of smaller groups that wish Americans and the West death.

I hope Israel leaves every single military and nuclear site a smoking hole. Every. Single. One. Destroys every missile, every bomb, every round of ammunition...and EVERY factory that produces them. Kills every jihad minded muslim in the entire nation. ALL of them. As well as destroying every terrorist cell they sponsor. Off to a great start with that part. Having annihilated the entire leadership of both Hezbollah and Hamas.

I dont want US military running offensive operations especially putting boots on the ground in harms way...but I hope we share every bit of intelligence we can muster to help them find targets. Also hope we use those carrier battle groups as well as the best Air Force the world has ever known to defend Israel from any incoming attacks in retaliation.

I am not a European with my head up my butt. The war on terror is NOT and sadly never will be over. Godspeed, Israel. Never been so proud of you guys as the last couple years.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
Not sure who you are referring to but IDGAF if Israel wants to go at with Iran. They seem to be doing alright without US involvement.
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I agree with one small but important caveat. They cannot touch the underground, hardened enrichment facility without us. They don't have the vehicle even if we supplied the payload.
 
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“The Islamic Republic has come to an end and is falling. What has begun is irreversible. The future is bright and together we will navigate this sharp turn in history. Now is the time to stand; it is time to take back Iran. May I be with you soon.”
 
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Vol8188 said:
Why 60% if their goal isn’t weapons?

There’s no real issue to address. You’ve found one opinion and are falsely pretending if we can’t fully explain her statement, that it in some way changes anything.

It doesn’t. If she had said the complete opposite, your opinion wouldn’t change.
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The one opinion is a very well qualified one. There's no false pretending other than in your imagination. It's a simple question and it's an important question. You completely discount it because you don't like the implications.
 
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EasternVol said:
The one opinion is a very well qualified one. There's no false pretending other than in your imagination. It's a simple question and it's an important question. You completely discount it because you don't like the implications.
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I simply don’t care. It is well established that they’re enriching uranium to 60% and there’s only one logical reason.

You’ve even tried and the best you could come up with was they’re threatening nuclear capability for leverage. Well, sounds like they threatened the wrong people
 
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Vol8188 said:
Why do you keep asking me this retarded question?

A bomb…and enriching uranium, are not the same thing. Idk why Tulsi says anything she does.

You keep focusing on this because you found one person (someone who has been tied to possible Russian influence several times) who said what you want to hear.

Why should we only focus on this one person and ignore the statements of both Iranian leadership and the UN? The obvious answer is we shouldn’t.
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If Tulsi Gabbard has been linked several times to possible Russian influence why did President Donald J Trump appoint her to be the Director of National Intelligence? That's a critical question I'd like you to address.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I simply don’t care. It is well established that they’re enriching uranium to 60% and there’s only one logical reason.

You’ve even tried and the best you could come up with was they’re threatening nuclear capability for leverage. Well, sounds like they threatened the wrong people
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I gave that possibility and stressed that it's a possibility. I also said it's possible they're trying to build a bomb. Neither you nor I know for sure what their intentions are or were.
The comments from Tulsi are interesting. It's a tell to immediately trash their value.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
If Tulsi Gabbard has been linked several times to possible Russian influence why did President Donald J Trump appoint her to be the National Director of Intelligence? That's a critical question I'd like you to address.
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You would like me to address?

I neither picked her, nor would I have picked her.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
I remember 9.11.01.
I remember the Boston Marathon.
I remember New Orleans.
I remember the attacks all over Europe every year since they opened their doors to muslim "refugees".

Iran is by far the greatest sponsor of terrorist groups on Earth. From Hezbollah to Hamas to dozens of smaller groups that wish Americans and the West death.
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What did Iran have to do with any of those attacks?

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EasternVol said:
I gave that possibility and stressed that it's a possibility. I also said it's possible they're trying to build a bomb. Neither you nor I know for sure what their intentions are or were.
The comments from Tulsi are interesting. It's a tell to immediately trash their value.
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Once you get to that level, military means is the only possibility. Even your “threat” analogy is a “military threat”.

So it’s a complete joke to pretend “we could just never know what their intentions are”.

It’s obvious to anyone.

And you only find them interesting because she agreed with you.
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
I think a lot of the media and elected officials opposed to us getting involved act like we are going to send ground troops in like it's the invasion of Europe all over again. I doubt that's even crossed Trump’s mind. A war requires people shooting back and the Israeli AF has pretty much took care of that.

Dropping bombs from 20k feet isn't getting into another long war and outside of Tier 1 operators who may already be in Iran or Ukraine and hundreds of other places we'll never know about is likely the only ground forces that would ever be involved.
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I think people know that. The fear is that this becomes more than that, and if the current Iranian regime is toppled it is replaced with one that is even worse.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
I remember 9.11.01.
I remember the Boston Marathon.
I remember New Orleans.
I remember the attacks all over Europe every year since they opened their doors to muslim "refugees".

Iran is by far the greatest sponsor of terrorist groups on Earth. From Hezbollah to Hamas to dozens of smaller groups that wish Americans and the West death.

I hope Israel leaves every single military and nuclear site a smoking hole. Every. Single. One. Destroys every missile, every bomb, every round of ammunition...and EVERY factory that produces them. Kills every jihad minded muslim in the entire nation. ALL of them. As well as destroying every terrorist cell they sponsor. Off to a great start with that part. Having annihilated the entire leadership of both Hezbollah and Hamas.

I dont want US military running offensive operations especially putting boots on the ground in harms way...but I hope we share every bit of intelligence we can muster to help them find targets. Also hope we use those carrier battle groups as well as the best Air Force the world has ever known to defend Israel from any incoming attacks in retaliation.

I am not a European with my head up my butt. The war on terror is NOT and sadly never will be over. Godspeed, Israel. Never been so proud of you guys as the last couple years.
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My favorite part of 9.11 was watching the dancing Israelis and the Mossad dudes that went on the news that were there ahead of time to "document the event".
 
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05_never_again said:
I think people know that. The fear is that this becomes more than that, and if the current Iranian regime is toppled it is replaced with one that is even worse.
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And what happens when Iran's allies get pissed off at us and things escalate?

The world is a gross tangled tie of alliances that nobody can manage, just like in the early 1910s.
 
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utvolpj said:
What did Iran have to do with any of those attacks?

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There is evidence of a connection related to the movement of al-Qaeda operatives and the facilitation of their travel before the attacks.
Here's a breakdown of the connection based on the available information:
  • Facilitating Transit: The 9/11 Commission Report indicated that several future 9/11 hijackers traveled through Iran between late 2000 and early 2001, and Iranian border guards were reportedly told not to stamp their passports, which facilitated their travel.
  • Hezbollah Involvement: There is circumstantial evidence suggesting that senior Hezbollah operatives may have been aware of the travel of some future hijackers into Iran. However, the 9/11 Commission could not confirm if this was a coincidence and found no evidence that Iran or Hezbollah knew about the specific 9/11 plot at that time.
  • Post-9/11 Refuge: Following the September 11 attacks, hundreds of al-Qaeda members and their families found refuge in Iran. Osama bin Laden referred to Iran as a crucial route for al-Qaeda's funds, personnel, and communication after 9/11.
  • Legal Liability: In 2011, a federal judge ruled that Iran had provided support for the 9/11 attacks due to its role in facilitating the movement of al-Qaeda operatives.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
I remember 9.11.01.
I remember the Boston Marathon.
I remember New Orleans.
I remember the attacks all over Europe every year since they opened their doors to muslim "refugees".

Iran is by far the greatest sponsor of terrorist groups on Earth. From Hezbollah to Hamas to dozens of smaller groups that wish Americans and the West death.

I hope Israel leaves every single military and nuclear site a smoking hole. Every. Single. One. Destroys every missile, every bomb, every round of ammunition...and EVERY factory that produces them. Kills every jihad minded muslim in the entire nation. ALL of them. As well as destroying every terrorist cell they sponsor. Off to a great start with that part. Having annihilated the entire leadership of both Hezbollah and Hamas.

I dont want US military running offensive operations especially putting boots on the ground in harms way...but I hope we share every bit of intelligence we can muster to help them find targets. Also hope we use those carrier battle groups as well as the best Air Force the world has ever known to defend Israel from any incoming attacks in retaliation.

I am not a European with my head up my butt. The war on terror is NOT and sadly never will be over. Godspeed, Israel. Never been so proud of you guys as the last couple years.
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That's a lot of hate there. Are you sure it's well directed? Maybe you should travel a little and try to see places with some of those people that scare you. It might help you see things differently, or not.
 
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MAD said:
She says it best, agree or disagree?

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(1) There were plenty of people at the time who said we were not starting the wars against Iraq and Afghanistan.

(2) It's ludicrous to say that the US can just drop a bomb or two in Iran and magically peace will break out thereafter.
 
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