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PEPPERJAX said:
I sure as hell hope not. Israel's air force is more than capable.
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The Israeli AF has done about all they can do conventionally. They have took out most all the the AA missile launchers and most of the mobile launchers that have been targeting Israel.

We are the only ones able to hit the underground bunkers/facilities.
 
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Also, I don’t believe anything the government says left or right. They’ll find any excuse to go bomb people or sell weapons, at the end of the day it makes them money. It’s all about money. And they’ve lied to us before remember iraqs supposed weapons of mass destruction that was total nonsense? They did it before they’ll do it again. As far as Iran building nukes, I can’t say if they are or aren’t obviously but I wouldn’t put it past our “leaders” to say they do as a way to get the citizens of America behind their carnage. It’s all about profits
 
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ButchPlz said:
Then he's even more ****ing retarded (I use this term with exact intent) than any of us gave him credit for.

He campaigned almost entirely on no more wars- on America first. First the DOGE fraud, then failing on immigration, and now this. What good has he been? None.
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He knows (despite his rhetoric) he doesn't have to worry about another election, so he's succumbing to the pro-interventionists he has in his camp.

And it isn't like he hasn't played this card before. I know MAGA is "We love him because he stayed out of everything" but during his first term he droned several people in Africa and Yemen, hit Syria after they used chemical weapons, and whacked Soleimani.
 
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LouderVol said:
you are making a distinction with no difference. we haven't backed down from supporting Ukraine. in fact Trump is more pro-Ukraine than ever, which is largely why the media has dropped them as a story.
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Read further into the conversation. There's a real difference.
 
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Vol8188 said:
At 60%? It does not. The highest civilian uses I’m aware of stop around 20%.
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I’m not educated enough on uranium to know the percentages, I was just stating it has other uses. I just don’t trust anything our government says, it’s not even a trump thing for me.
 
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EasternVol said:
Why did Tulsi say they're not working on a bomb if indeed they are?
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Why do you keep asking me this retarded question?

A bomb…and enriching uranium, are not the same thing. Idk why Tulsi says anything she does.

You keep focusing on this because you found one person (someone who has been tied to possible Russian influence several times) who said what you want to hear.

Why should we only focus on this one person and ignore the statements of both Iranian leadership and the UN? The obvious answer is we shouldn’t.
 
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My own take:

1) Odds we bomb Iran with bunker busters in current situation are on the order of 10 %.

2) Odds we bomb Iran with bunker busters if it look like the Israelis are going to pull off the regime change and this is the last thing that needs to happen: 75%.

I am convinced Trump is engaging in all this bluster in hopes that it causes Iran to change its mind and negotiate. Ergo everything being so public. "Evacuate Tehran." Leaving early to get to situation room. So publicly making it clear the assets we are moving there.

But he really doesn't want to do it because it is anathema to his isolationist campaign. He knows the criticism he would take from all sides and is just hoping Iran folds. If they don't, that is where it gets tricky. But in the end I think he does it only if Israel is the sure winner in this and he's backing the already-winning side.
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
I’m not educated enough on uranium to know the percentages, I was just stating it has other uses. I just don’t trust anything our government says, it’s not even a trump thing for me.
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It’s not our government. I can provide links if you desire, but I’ve posted them previously. Both the UN inspectors and the Iranian government agree they’re enriching to 60%

I agree it’s not my area of expertise either, but this is the AI answer.

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Vol8188 said:
Why do you keep asking me this retarded question?

A bomb…and enriching uranium, are not the same thing. Idk why Tulsi says anything she does.

You keep focusing on this because you found one person (someone who has been tied to possible Russian influence several times) who said what you want to hear.

Why should we only focus on this one person and ignore the statements of both Iranian leadership and the UN? The obvious answer is we shouldn’t.
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What is it she does for a living again?
If it's just enriching uranium then what's the problem, right? Is Israel's pretext for bombing that they don't want Iran to have enriched uranium sitting on a shelf for 50 years? Or something about nuclear weapons?
Of course you dimly understand all that but don't want to address the issue because it calls into question the rationale for Israel's attacks, and you will never admit your chosen team could be even a little bit wrong.
Why did she say it if it's not true?
 
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I think a lot of the media and elected officials opposed to us getting involved act like we are going to send ground troops in like it's the invasion of Europe all over again. I doubt that's even crossed Trump’s mind. A war requires people shooting back and the Israeli AF has pretty much took care of that.

Dropping bombs from 20k feet isn't getting into another long war and outside of Tier 1 operators who may already be in Iran or Ukraine and hundreds of other places we'll never know about is likely the only ground forces that would ever be involved.
 
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EasternVol said:
What is it she does for a living again?
If it's just enriching uranium then what's the problem, right? Is Israel's pretext for bombing that they don't want Iran to have enriched uranium sitting on a shelf for 50 years? Or something about nuclear weapons?
Of course you dimly understand all that but don't want to address the issue because it calls into question the rationale for Israel's attacks, and you will never admit your chosen team is even a little bit at fault.
Why did she say it if it's not true?
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Why 60% if their goal isn’t weapons?

There’s no real issue to address. You’ve found one opinion and are falsely pretending if we can’t fully explain her statement, that it in some way changes anything.

It doesn’t. If she had said the complete opposite, your opinion wouldn’t change.
 
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