President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

[BowlBrother85]

So you endorse the violence. Nothing inappropriate about protecting America.

No, they are not mutually exclusive to each other.

As I have posted numerous times before now, the National Guard would have been more than sufficient to fulfill the needs that Donald Trump has claimed he deployed 700 Marines to provide.

 

[swampfoxfan]

There is almost one million immigration farm workers in the U.S. a lot of 1,000+ cow dairy farms are entirely staffed with immigrants. There're a little over 300,000 guest worker visas available every year. Do the math.

Picking lettuce in California, oranges in Florida, milking cows in Utah, crab meat in Maryland we need more guest workers than are currently authorized. Fix that first.

 

[hog88]

There is almost one million immigration farm workers in the U.S. a lot of 1,000+ cow dairy farms are entirely staffed with immigrants. There're a little over 300,000 guest worker visas available every year. Do the math.

Picking lettuce in California, oranges in Florida, milking cows in Utah, crab meat in Maryland we need more guest workers than are currently authorized. Fix that first.

Agreed.

 

[CobbVol]

Going to get a haircut today for the No Kings Protest tomorrow,

Do you know if they are going to provide box lunches?

 

[Majors]

No, they are not mutually exclusive to each other.

As I have posted numerous times before now, the National Guard would have been more than sufficient to fulfill the needs that Donald Trump has claimed he deployed 700 Marines to provide.

Yes they are. The violent protesters could have went home days ago and chose not to, we are a week in. You can say NG is sufficient over and over, it makes no difference when we all see cop/civilians cars burning, stores being looted and defacing of property. You either want it to end or you endorse it, pick a lane.

 

[McDad]

They bypassed the process tho.

irrelevant.

That's been a deal-breaker for Trump and his acolytes. This is a complete and total pivot.

Would you prefer bad policy continue to prevent hypocrisy?

In fact, I've heard arguments from Trump people to get rid of legals if they initially came in illegally.

Arguments aren't policy.

Face it, the laws are totally ****ed and we have a madman picking and choosing winners all over the economy through tariffs and immigration policy, etc. Top-down centralized control with banana republic rules, and you're telling me that this passes the smell test because Trump will make them legal? That's precisely my point.

You remain obtuse in your idealism. Trump isn't making them legal. Trump is granting them the opportunity to process in legally. Our immigration laws exist with or without a worthy president in the WH.
There are many things that can be done illegally or legally in America. Immigration is another one of those things.

 

[whodeycin85]

Just because you can do something .... doesn't mean that you should,

This has set an awful precedent, and it completely disregards the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878. It will lead to more problems than it will ever solve. It was clearly a political stunt.

I can agree with that first statement, but with both sides so far apart on what should be done.. Legal or illegal is the standard.. Neither side holds a moral high ground...

 

[BowlBrother85]

Yes they are. The violent protesters could have went home days ago and chose not to, we are a week in. You can say NG is sufficient over and over, it makes no difference when we all see cop/civilians cars burning, stores being looted and defacing of property. You either want it to end or you endorse it, pick a lane.

No, they literally aren't.

This was a blatant misuse of the United States Marine corps. The reasons given for their deployment do not involve their stated mission. They are not trained to quell or assist American law enforcement with domestic disturbances of such a nature. They should not have been deployed to Los Angeles. Period.

 

[C-south]

No, they literally aren't.

This was a blatant misuse of the United States Marine corps. The reasons given for their deployment do not involve their stated mission. They are not trained to quell or assist American law enforcement with domestic disturbances of such a nature. They should not have been deployed to Los Angeles. Period.

You will hang your hat on the dumbest s*** imaginable. Anything to be triggered. Guess that’s part of being in the tds cult.

 

[Jxn Vol]

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[BowlBrother85]

You will hang your hat on the dumbest s*** imaginable. Anything to be triggered. Guess that’s part of being in the tds cult.

Yeah .... It's dumb to believe that the United States Marine corps should not be deployed for domestic affairs. Sure thing. It is, in fact, beyond irrational to think otherwise.

You are such an indoctrinated member of Trump's Cult of Personality that, even if you were an educated person (A STRETCH, I KNOW!) it wouldn't matter. You are only capable of the groupthink within your cult. Critical analysis is prohibited within the echo chamber of a cult.

 

[C-south]

Yeah .... It's dumb to believe that the United States Marine corps should not be deployed for domestic affairs. Sure thing. It is, in fact, beyond irrational to think otherwise.

You are such an indoctrinated member of Trump's Cult of Personality that, even if you were an educated person (A STRETCH, I KNOW!) it wouldn't matter. You are only capable of the groupthink within your cult. Critical analysis is prohibited within the echo chamber of a cult.

I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God

 

[BowlBrother85]

I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God

If, under extraordinary circumstances, it was necessary to invoke the Insurrection Act, then and only then would it be conceivably necessary to deploy United States Marines for a riot. That was obviously not the case in Los Angeles, where the National Guard would have been sufficient.

What is the mission of the U.S. Marine Corps, and why?

Answer (1 of 5): The Marine Corps is a relatively small self-contained military organization of about 200,000 men and women that, with the support and assistance of the Navy, is designed to operate anyplace in the world where there is likely to be conflict. The normal mission of the Corps is to o...

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[hog88]

I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God

Sorry but BB is right on this. Those rioters are not an enemy of the constitution.

 

[EasternVol]

You’re intentionally misusing terms

The terms are used per their definitions.

 

[EasternVol]

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So you don't know. Ok.

 

[Majors]

No, they literally aren't.

This was a blatant misuse of the United States Marine corps. The reasons given for their deployment do not involve their stated mission. They are not trained to quell or assist American law enforcement with domestic disturbances of such a nature. They should not have been deployed to Los Angeles. Period.

This is what happens when countries are invaded. You’re failing to fire on all synapses.

 

[volbeast33]

There is almost one million immigration farm workers in the U.S. a lot of 1,000+ cow dairy farms are entirely staffed with immigrants. There're a little over 300,000 guest worker visas available every year. Do the math.

Picking lettuce in California, oranges in Florida, milking cows in Utah, crab meat in Maryland we need more guest workers than are currently authorized. Fix that first.

I agree that immigration needs to be fixed including more work visas but we still need to ramping up deportations.

 

[C-south]

Sorry but BB is right on this. Those rioters are not an enemy of the constitution.

If they’re here illegally they are. No different than deploying troops to the border. It’s going to take extreme reactions to fix, or attempt to fix, what has been broken.

 

[n_huffhines]

irrelevant.

Would you prefer bad policy continue to prevent hypocrisy?

Arguments aren't policy.

You remain obtuse in your idealism. Trump isn't making them legal. Trump is granting them the opportunity to process in legally. Our immigration laws exist with or without a worthy president in the WH.
There are many things that can be done illegally or legally in America. Immigration is another one of those things.

Of course I want him to make the right decision. Clearly I'm not opposing immigrants. The point is the sloppiness and chaos of policy and to illustrate some things are more important than strict enforcement of the law.

And Republicans have been against amnesty and exceptions for rule-breakers for 30 years because "it's the law." You can pretend like this isn't an about-face to legally let "invaders" back in, but it fkn is. They have no idea what they're doing. We traded chaos at the border for chaos within our borders

 

[hog88]

If they’re here illegally they are. No different than deploying troops to the border. It’s going to take extreme reactions to fix, or attempt to fix, what has been broken.

Congress the Judiciary and the Federal Reserve are bigger threats to the constitution than illegal aliens and the LA riots.

 

[BowlBrother85]

This is what happens when countries are invaded. You’re failing to fire on all synapses.

LOL. Wtf?

 

[Vol8188]

They bypassed the process tho. That's been a deal-breaker for Trump and his acolytes. This is a complete and total pivot.

In fact, I've heard arguments from Trump people to get rid of legals if they initially came in illegally.

Face it, the laws are totally ****ed and we have a madman picking and choosing winners all over the economy through tariffs and immigration policy, etc. Top-down centralized control with banana republic rules, and you're telling me that this passes the smell test because Trump will make them legal? That's precisely my point.

I’ve never seen someone so upset that a politician moved closer to their own views on a topic.

How dare he!

 

[VOLLeeann]

The right-wing reactivity comes after years of overheated rhetoric, disinformation, and demonization directed toward the Black Lives Matter protests of 2020, some of which did including rioting, vandalism, and persistent civil unrest. In the ensuing years, the BLM protests became shorthand on the right for left-wing and Antifa violence and morphed into a rationale and excuse for the Jan. 6 attack. Now we have this pig in Ft. Lauderdale, FL.

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

They are both unnecessary ..... The ends do not justify the means. This deployment of Marines was a terrible precedent for an American President to establish. It's purpose was completely political.

So are you for letting LA be destroyed and tax payers to be hit for the repair?

Newsome was doing nothing…..he wanted the confrontation.

Most Californians that I have seen interviewed want the violence to stop yet the left was OK with letting it go. The Presidents first obligation is the safety and security of all it‘s people.