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volfanhill said:
I don't believe anyone wanted to shoot a media person .

Do you?

If not, then it was an accident and why are you biatching?
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I'd like to see the video from another angle. I want to think that no one wanted that but the video we've seen so far unfortunately leaves that ambiguous.
 
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OHvol40 said:
For those that truly believe in Reagan’s “Shining City on a Hill” analogy, then I would say there is no guarantee, but certainly a fair opportunity. I’m afraid most conservative-leaning people have lost that spirit, retreating into isolationism.
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We need more immigrants. As important, we need the right type of immigrants. Our current system is driven by politics. It isn't driven by best-practices.
When one political group swings too far in one direction, the other swings too far in the other. This is where we are right now.
People here illegally should be deported. The only "due process" necessary is confirmation or refutation of their immigration status. It takes less than 5 seconds.
But none of what came before or what is happening now is improving our immigration system in the long term.
 
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McDad said:
We need more immigrants. As important, we need the right type of immigrants. Our current system is driven by politics. It isn't driven by best-practices.
When one political group swings too far in one direction, the other swings too far in the other. This is where we are right now.
People here illegally should be deported. The only "due process" necessary is confirmation or refutation of their immigration status. It takes less than 5 seconds.
But none of what came before or what is happening now is improving our immigration system in the long term.
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I believe it takes a lot more than 5 seconds though.
Then there's the problem of taking someone here legally and declaring them illegal when they've broken no laws, all for political games.
 
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EasternVol said:
I believe it takes a lot more than 5 seconds though.
Then there's the problem of taking someone here legally and declaring them illegal when they've broken no laws, all for political games.
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You can believe whatever you choose. In application, It doesn't take more time. Coming into and out of Japan. Coming out of and into America was less than 5 seconds. Passport plus real-time facial analysis. Less than 20 seconds total for 4 seperate verifications.
 
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n_huffhines said:
This article cites a WaPo poll that indicates Trump's favorability on immigration had declined from 50% to 46% from February to April. Imagine where it is now after he's militarized our streets, and social media's showing people what this actually looks like in practice.

This is a pretty interesting high-level view of the chaotic process these immigrants are trying to navigate, while we make them out to be the bad guys:

The public’s perception of chaos stems from the fact that Trump’s policies appear arbitrary. Under President Biden, no one knew why people were getting into the country. Now no one knows why people are getting thrown out. Under Biden, people came illegally or chaotically. Now people are being deported illegally or chaotically. The public cares about order in both directions.

America shouldn’t be doomed to oscillate between two types of chaos. Instead, we need to reembrace the antidote for chaos: the rule of law.

During Biden’s term, much of the border chaos traces to the fact that immigrants never really knew what the rule was. On paper, it was illegal to cross between ports and legal to cross at them. In reality, at least from 2021 to 2023, ports were mostly closed, and about half of the illegal crossers were allowed to stay.

Moreover, the actual determination of who got in and who got tossed was made by agents at the border, not based on asylum statutes passed by Congress or any other known rule. This was the rule of man, not the rule of law, and the chaotic results were readily apparent.

Unfortunately, the chaos has not dissipated — it’s only moved locations: from the border to the interior. The basic framework of Trump’s interior enforcement is that it is whimsical and arbitrary. It is not about “merit,” not about public safety threats, not even about people here illegally or about “noncitizens,” as Trump is seeking to strip U.S. citizenship from people and remove U.S. citizenship for many U.S.-born children.

There’s no articulable rule. Consider that Trump is arresting highly educated, lawful immigrant students for op-eds written long ago. Setting aside the 1st Amendment, the founders would be — or actually were — equally aghast at the “subjecting of men to punishment for things which, when they were done, were breaches of no law, and the practice of arbitrary imprisonments.”

The rule of man is back, and it’s as chaotic as ever.

Trump has empowered agents to strip immigrants of lawful status and immediately deport them. They are even arresting lawful immigrants based on secret criteria (like forbidden tattoos) and sending them without due process to a foreign prison. Judge. Jury. Executioner. R.I.P. Madison’s definition of tyranny.

All this is unnecessary. Restoring the rule of law can end the chaos. That starts with clear, consistent and predictable rules. The immigration rules were, before Trump, notoriously known as “second only to the Internal Revenue Code in complexity.” The policies rapidly change from administration to administration and even from month to month.

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You lost me at “Wapo poll”
 
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McDad said:
You can believe whatever you choose. In application, It doesn't take more time. Coming into and out of Japan. Coming out of and into America was less than 5 seconds. Passport plus real-time facial analysis. Less than 20 seconds total for 4 seperate verifications.
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Yeah, passport control at immigration checkpoints is usually pretty quick. It's whether your visa is good, you meet the entry requirements, and you're not blacklisted per the database. On the street it would take longer to confirm identity and immigration status including residency applications and all.
 
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volfanhill said:
Only if you assume what you see is all there is. What's happening past her? My guess just a crappy shot by a cop
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I dunno, man. You can clearly see the officer pivot towards her, intentionally raise aim right at her, and quickly fire.

Sure, you can make the "what's happening past her" argument but even that is a stretch.
 
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MercyPercy said:
I mean, obviously she's fine so it's not a huge deal, but that video does make them look pretty ******. Looks like the LEO looks right at her, obviously a reporter not threatening them, and shoots right at her back. Pretty close range. Not really a crossfire or collateral damage situation. Did it on purpose. Scummy imo.
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You really can’t make all that out from the video. You can see she’s moving. You can see him raise his weapon. Really reaching here to claim it was intentional
 
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MercyPercy said:
If it wasn't on purpose it was a stormtrooper level shot lol
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MercyPercy said:
I mean, obviously she's fine so it's not a huge deal, but that video does make them look pretty ******. Looks like the LEO looks right at her, obviously a reporter not threatening them, and shoots right at her back. Pretty close range. Not really a crossfire or collateral damage situation. Did it on purpose. Scummy imo.
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MercyPercy said:
I'd like to see the video from another angle. I want to think that no one wanted that but the video we've seen so far unfortunately leaves that ambiguous.
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Wait…is it ambiguous or scummy and intentional? You seem to have a significantly different tone in the last comment relative to the others
 
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McDad said:
We need more immigrants. As important, we need the right type of immigrants. Our current system is driven by politics. It isn't driven by best-practices.
When one political group swings too far in one direction, the other swings too far in the other. This is where we are right now.
People here illegally should be deported. The only "due process" necessary is confirmation or refutation of their immigration status. It takes less than 5 seconds.
But none of what came before or what is happening now is improving our immigration system in the long term.
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