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#53
All major news outlets have headlines about the forecasted $2.4 trillion effect of the bill on the debt... except one.

Fox's headline is that the CBO projection is that it saves $3.7 trillion in taxes.

I suppose both are correct but one is very much hiding the ball from its viewership.
 
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lawgator1 said:
All major news outlets have headlines about the forecasted $2.4 trillion effect of the bill on the debt... except one.

Fox's headline is that the CBO projection is that it saves $3.7 trillion in taxes.

I suppose both are correct but one is very much hiding the ball from its viewership.
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lawgator1 said:
No. Entitlement spending on Medicare and social security are not discretionary. By far the biggest part of the problem is defense spending and tax breaks for the wealthiest.
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military spending is not discretionary either. so if you are carving out SS and Medicare, the military gets a pass too.

actually the biggest issue after SS and Medicare is debt interest payments. It has, or shortly will pass military spending.

at this rate we are going to be upside down on the debt in my lifetime. meaning we are going to have to borrow money to pay INTEREST on the money we have already borrowed.
 
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LouderVol said:
military spending is not discretionary either. so if you are carving out SS and Medicare, the military gets a pass too.

actually the biggest issue after SS and Medicare is debt interest payments. It has, or shortly will pass military spending.

at this rate we are going to be upside down on the debt in my lifetime. meaning we are going to have to borrow money to pay INTEREST on the money we have already borrowed.
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I don't think youre going to have to wait...
 
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lawgator1 said:
No way to run an airline.
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how do you feel about the status quo (no bill)? 1.7trillion deficit cool?

seems to me the analysis should look at the delta in the deficit and that's still bad but it also includes significant tax relief compared to what the status quo brings.
 
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volinbham said:
how do you feel about the status quo (no bill)? 1.7trillion deficit cool?

seems to me the analysis should look at the delta in the deficit and that's still bad but it also includes significant tax relief compared to what the status quo brings.
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No idea but I do know that a single year look at the problem is deceiving. We trended in the right direction under only two presidents that I can recall in relatively recent memory.
 
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lawgator1 said:
No idea but I do know that a single year look at the problem is deceiving. We trended in the right direction under only two presidents that I can recall in relatively recent memory.
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certainly not the last one.

currently we have two options and while all wish one of those options was better it is not so the question remains:

is this option better than the other (status quo) where taxes go up more than 2x the comparative deficit reduction
 
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theFallGuy said:
I don't believe for a minute that Dems would be for any kind of "cuts" regardless of what republican cows do or don't get cut.
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Dont really disagree. If the Rs offered to cut defense by X% if certain other D departments were cut, the Ds might have to accept that politically...

Of course, the Ds would just reinstate the cut funding once they regained control.
 
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This lady would be funny if not so scary. How could she be expected to know what's in a bill she voted for?



She then goes on to claim it's a critical step for America no matter the price tag. This is why no one takes the gop seriously
 
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lawgator1 said:
No. Entitlement spending on Medicare and social security are not discretionary. By far the biggest part of the problem is defense spending and tax breaks for the wealthiest.
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I'm with you on the defense spending. Do you take deductions on your taxes? The average lawyer in Florida make $110,000.
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
Its in there between the lines. Apparently you hear what you want to hear.
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"Says the quiet part out loud"

That didn't mean to read between the lines.

If you don't even want to read or watch the tweets you bring then why do you believe they'll be important to others? Your sources are absolutely horrible click bait. They make you less informed
 
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utvolpj said:
This lady would be funny if not so scary. How could she be expected to know what's in a bill she voted for?



She then goes on to claim it's a critical step for America no matter the price tag. This is why no one takes the gop seriously
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Absolutely nuts. There are plenty on both sides that are embarrassments to this country but she is the poster child. This illiterate POS has no business being anywhere near decisions that affect all of us. I would be interested in the average IQ in the district that elected her.
 
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