Israel vs Palestinians

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n_huffhines said:
I believe there are lots and lots of deaths that we've paid for, and I don't believe Israel when they say they're trying to avoid casualties except a few PR moments where they say "see."

In fact, I am skeptical of Israel's claim that Hamas has been hiding behind meat shield civilians. Yes, Hamas operates in civilian areas, but it's a densely populated region. There really isn't much to support the actual claim. I don't guess many ITT have looked at all into the veracity of this. Probably accepted the claim 100% without a thought of skepticism. To whomever reads this, be honest with yourself. Did you even challenge it in your head or nah?

But we did catch Israel using meat shields (again).

The Israeli propaganda machine is strong.

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I made this point too. The side that got caught "using human shields" is Israel and they keep pointing elsewhere
 
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n_huffhines said:
I believe there are lots and lots of deaths that we've paid for, and I don't believe Israel when they say they're trying to avoid casualties except a few PR moments where they say "see."
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Huff: "If Israel wanted to kill Hamas without killing civilians, they could. Even when they try, they don't really mean it."."
n_huffhines said:
In fact, I am skeptical of Israel's claim that Hamas has been hiding behind meat shield civilians. Yes, Hamas operates in civilian areas, but it's a densely populated region.
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Also Huff: "There are so many civilians in such a small space that it is not Hamas' fault when civilians are killed when Hamas is killed."

n_huffhines said:
There really isn't much to support the actual claim.
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Further Huff: "Never mind the above, there really isn't much evidence that civilians are being killed when Hamas is being killed."
n_huffhines said:
I don't guess many ITT have looked at all into the veracity of this. Probably accepted the claim 100% without a thought of skepticism. To whomever reads this, be honest with yourself. Did you even challenge it in your head or nah?
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Huff to anyone who doesn't think like him: "You lemmings are so gullible to the propaganda that you have no way of independently verifying yourselves."
n_huffhines said:
But we did catch Israel using meat shields (again).
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And more: "This is the unverifiable propaganda you should believe!"
n_huffhines said:
The Israeli propaganda machine is strong.
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Finally: "If only we were as strong at our messaging as they are!" [Runs off to screenshot hate-filled tweets to cut & paste.]
n_huffhines said:

Use of human shields by Hamas - Wikipedia

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n_huffhines said:
Where are you seeing that in the terms?

Netanyahu can still bomb them without troops entering Gaza.

Why has Netanyahu kept a lid on it this whole time? Ask yourself some simple questions.

The hostages have been justification for everything (see a post on this page). Now we're finding out they are not. This is a bombshell.
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What do you think the solution is ?
 
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Ritzwatch said:
Huff: "If Israel wanted to kill Hamas without killing civilians, they could. Even when they try, they don't really mean it."."

Also Huff: "There are so many civilians in such a small space that it is not Hamas' fault when civilians are killed when Hamas is killed."


Further Huff: "Never mind the above, there really isn't much evidence that civilians are being killed when Hamas is being killed."

Huff to anyone who doesn't think like him: "You lemmings are so gullible to the propaganda that you have no way of independently verifying yourselves."

And more: "This is the unverifiable propaganda you should believe!"


Finally: "If only we were as strong at our messaging as they are!" [Runs off to screenshot hate-filled tweets to cut & paste.]
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I think my favorite part is his link had this
Hamas leaders said that the extremely high population density in Gaza resulted in Hamas operating near civilian areas
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Which is a violation of IHL and classified as using human shields.

I don’t think I saw anyone on here defend Israel’s use of human shields, further more the statements like this: Ayman Abu Hamadan was forced into houses in the Gaza Strip to make sure they were clear of bombs and gunmen

Just shows even more hamas’ use of human shields and hiding among them. It’s hilarious to recognize Israel’s use and then excuse Hamas’ use as propaganda
 
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Ritzwatch said:
Huff: "If Israel wanted to kill Hamas without killing civilians, they could. Even when they try, they don't really mean it."."

Also Huff: "There are so many civilians in such a small space that it is not Hamas' fault when civilians are killed when Hamas is killed."


Further Huff: "Never mind the above, there really isn't much evidence that civilians are being killed when Hamas is being killed."

Huff to anyone who doesn't think like him: "You lemmings are so gullible to the propaganda that you have no way of independently verifying yourselves."

And more: "This is the unverifiable propaganda you should believe!"


Finally: "If only we were as strong at our messaging as they are!" [Runs off to screenshot hate-filled tweets to cut & paste.]
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So, the argument against Hamas using human shields is that Gaza is too populated not to use human shields?

If I started firing a gun in a crowded mall, my defense could be that the mall was too crowded not to have hit some people?
 
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Vol8188 said:
If Hamas isn’t using human shields, could you please inform us of where the military infrastructure in Gaza is located?
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They shoot their own people.
There’s video evidence of it.

Why would the shields be out of the realm of possibility?


Just a while back we heard a story of a Dr whose kids and husband were killed………then it came out that that the husband was a Hamas militant and there were a handful of Hamas militants killed in the strike. Isn’t that the very definition of hiding behind your children?
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
They shoot their own people.
There’s video evidence of it.

Why would the shields be out of the realm of possibility?


Just a while back we heard a story of a Dr whose kids and husband were killed………then it came out that that the husband was a Hamas militant and there were a handful of Hamas militants killed in the strike. Isn’t that the very definition of hiding behind your children?
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I enjoyed Huff claiming there was no evidence of Israel avoiding casualties (they literally dropped speakers from the sky telling people to evacuate) and no evidence of Hamas using human shields (like when they intentionally blocked roads out of Gaza City).

He has selective reading it seems.

And then we have the clowns in here who tell us it’s perfectly reasonable for Hamas to sleep with their families every night while knowing they’re at war. Then simultaneously attempting to compare to civilian casualties to the Ukraine where millions of women and children fled.
 
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