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BowlBrother85 said:
Give me a break.

If Hunter Biden had co-founded a private club in D.C. with a $500,000 membership fee, while his father was the President of the United States, Republicans / Conservatives / Trump supporters would interpret those optics to be selling access and influence to the White House.

Nobody advertises their intention to sell influence. A private club with extravagant membership fees, has long since been a way to fund "pay-for-play" schemes. The name of the club is an interesting choice of words, but not important to the core issue. The optics of such clubs are terrible.
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So you have a problem with all private membership clubs?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Give me a break.

If Hunter Biden had co-founded a private club in D.C. with a $500,000 membership fee, while his father was the President of the United States, Republicans / Conservatives / Trump supporters would interpret those optics to be selling access and influence to the White House.

Nobody advertises their intention to sell influence. A private club with extravagant membership fees, has long since been a way to fund "pay-for-play" schemes. The name of the club is an interesting choice of words, but not important to the core issue. The optics of such clubs are terrible.
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But the optics of selling kindergarten quality watercolors is......
 
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Sandman 423 said:
So you have a problem with all private membership clubs?
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No .... Did I say that?

My problem is exclusive to the sons of Presidents who co-found private membership clubs. with extravagant membership fees. As I explained, these types of "clubs" are often used to fund pay-for-play schemes. I am skeptical that Donald Trump Jr. could get anyone to pay a $500,000 membership fee, for the stated benefits which membership to that club describes as providing, if his father wasn't the President of the United States. It doesn't necessarily mean that members of this club are gaining advantageous influence, but the perception will definitely be there. The optics of such a club are terrible.

There is no way that Republicans wouldn't have made a big deal of this if Hunter Biden had done the same thing. In the interest of being fair, Hunter Biden was also selling the perception of influence and favorable treatment to his father's administration.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Give me a break.

If Hunter Biden had co-founded a private club in D.C. with a $500,000 membership fee, while his father was the President of the United States, Republicans / Conservatives / Trump supporters would interpret those optics to be selling access and influence to the White House.

Nobody advertises their intention to sell influence. A private club with extravagant membership fees, has long since been a way to fund "pay-for-play" schemes. The name of the club is an interesting choice of words, but not important to the core issue. The optics of such clubs are terrible.
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“You don't know that. It is conjecture.”-BB86 on Monday when discussing the Biden health coverup.
 
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Majors said:
“You don't know that. It is conjecture.”-BB86 on Monday when discussing the Biden health coverup.
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It is indeed conjecture, but it is supported by past allegations. House Republicans did accuse Hunter Biden of selling access and influence to his father, over matters which were similar in nature to Donald Trump Jr's $500K private club membership fee.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It is indeed conjecture, but it is supported by past allegations. House Republicans did accuse Hunter Biden of selling access and influence to his father, over matters which were similar in nature to Donald Trump Jr's $500K private club membership fee.
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Conjecture. No need to spin it, your words not mine.
 
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Ritzwatch said:
Ah, but it is conjecture based on “past allegations.”

See, therein lies the difference.
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So, you don't think that Republicans would have been accusing Hunter Biden of selling access and influence to his father, if he co-founded a private membership club in D.C. with a $500,000 membership fee? They spent 4 damn years accusing Hunter Biden of doing exactly that. In some instances, they were right ... and in some others they were reaching.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
So, you don't think that….
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I think that a adult trying to distinguish between “conjecture” and “conjecture based on past allegations” is foolish.

It is equally foolish to make a distinction between “guesses” and “educated guesses.”

Beyond that, I didn’t express an opinion regarding the subject matter of the posts; I couldn’t get past the petty, silly semantic arguments.
 
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Ritzwatch said:
I think that a adult trying to distinguish between “conjecture” and “conjecture based on past allegations” is foolish.

It is equally foolish to make a distinction between “guesses” and “educated guesses.”

Beyond that, I didn’t express an opinion regarding the subject matter of the posts; I couldn’t get past the petty, silly semantic arguments.
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That's your problem.

Based on how Republicans screeched about Hunter Biden's alleged peddling of access and influence to The White House, when his father was president, it is perfectly reasonable to think that they would have a problem, with him opening a private club in D.C. with a membership fee of $500K. The outrage from Republicans was clearly just political theater. The conduct itself, does not bother them, when it's Donald Trump Jr.

Where past is prologue.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
So, you don't think that Republicans would have been accusing Hunter Biden of selling access and influence to his father, if he co-founded a private membership club in D.C. with a $500,000 membership fee? They spent 4 damn years accusing Hunter Biden of doing exactly that. In some instances, they were right ... and in some others they were reaching.
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And you were silent. Sit this one out too.
 
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